Pwn3DmAst3r

.... i come off to strong im sorry and im not yellin at any one... and cursing is a habbit...


but all the big bang is, is a THEORY!!!
made up by human beings... never known to be true... it pisses me off that ppl make a religion about this utter CRAP!!
i mean the other day a freind i knew for ever said she was DARWINISTIC!! (believing in evelution)
i mean you want big wholes look at these crappy theory's....

-----Big Bang----
A theory that is said sumthin came out of nuthin

----Evolutio----
umans come from a billion year chain connection homo sapiens to amphibians.

call me crazy but thats BULL SHIT!
y...?
if you dont see anything missing your blind...
weres that last link connecting use to the primapes?
if you believe in it surly you can show me that the grass is greener on the other side...

Lordrea

Uhm, HELLO! You just talked about religion - Some weird idea sprung up by humans! Theere is only one differencce in our ideas though... we have proof, you have nothing!

*laughs for hours on end* Wow, that was kinda funny. Please, if you do not have a brain, or know anything about science or truth, please refrain from posting here.

Again, your stupidity astounds me. So you believe that some guy/girl snaped his/her fingers, and made all of us, but you can't see all the evidence in your local library, or on the internet that proves evolution?

Go to collage. Study Simple relitivity. Go again, study special relitivity. Go back AGAIN and learn quantim physics. After learning, you are a garenteed athiest.

Yeah, he does, but I'm hopeing he'll open his eyes one of these days...

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Pwn3DmAst3r

ok first of they were a distinct egyption craft found popular around the old kingdom era...

ok you know what they do to mumy's?
Measure the amount of CO2 in there body to figure out how old they are.
its called CARBON DATING.
an ok it wasnt a body but items from james the baptist (dumbass move by me yes ><)

it has been provin that the earth isnt even a billion of years old... not even a million years old... so how fast would this have to take place
to get homo sapiens...?
the earth would of course rotate around the sun abnormally and then slow down to a normall pace we are at today... meaning the world is slowing in rotaion?

Sakura15

Humans didnt just appear.

Humans share a common ancestor with apes therefore we are quite similiar to them. If you compare a Chimpanzee's DNA strand with ours, the sequence is quite similar. Every animal today evolved from a common ancestor thats why they look somewhat similar to things in the past. Nothing appears out of nowhere without a reason. People believe humans are evolved from the ancestor to become better in a way. Say our hearts are 4 chamber and maybe long long ago the ancestor's haert was 2 chambered, the heart evolved to provide more efficent service such as more oxygen and blood being processed by the body.

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Lordrea

I'm going to go strait to this... What grade are you in? Because looking at this, it still seems that you think the world is flat.

because of gravity, we are not going to stop spinning. In fact, we are actually spirialling slowly into the sun. But don't worry, the reverse effects of the big bang should kill us all instantly before we crash into the sun. And DUH the world is rotating! Don't you know off the axis? How else would we get seasons and such!

Finally, someone here that actually has a brain, and knows how to think for themselves...

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Lordrea

Next responce will be my last for today, I g2g.

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Sakura15

Hehe, I guess it paid off to take 10th grade Biology when I was in 9th grade. Anyways bye, talk to you soon.

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Pwn3DmAst3r

whats not getin through to you ppl...?
and were are the other 8 that voted for God?

anyways no our DNA strand do not look similar with apes...
we have a distinct chromesome X that no other "ancestor" of ours has...
Apes, Chipanzes, Neanderthals, or any other thing you want to say we come from are in a totaly different species then us, homo sapiens.

ok... heres a question... and if you answer this and can make me believe your answer i'll give up...



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the first pyramid was built for Khufu.
this was around 2780 B.C.
his mumy was recoverd
this mumification process was done over 23 centuries ago
His remains still look like what a human being would
Thats 2300 years ago
And no change
Double you Tee Eff

Sakura15

Of course he is still gonna look like a human with some similarities to common ancestor still. BUT what about his insides were to evolve? We wouldn't know since they have been removed and they are dead.

If he and his insides were alive and he lived to today would his insides from the past have evolved to something a little different? Evolution doesnt make us change dramstically it changes us very little depending what we need today.

SAY, Perhaps their stomachs were smaller and now our stomachs have evolved to become bigger?

Also evolution doesnt nessarily mean change to what we look outside but maybe inside.

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Lordrea

The egyptians though a great SCIENTIFIC process, were elite at preserving the dead. With their methods, they removed 99.9% of the causes for decay after death, therefor makeing a dead body ageing almost non existant. It's science and one of the almost basic things you can learn in a simple biology class. That's not a mirical.
But thank you for useing science to prove yourself wrong, sure did save me a lot of trouble.

PS: Sorry for the long delay, I had to fix some programming I did in a game.

He is dead. With no energy to initiate the chemical reactions in the body, there is no way evolution can occur.


One last thing, evolution isn't simple just the change of one being into another over time.
Picture giraffes.
Now, picture there were two types of giraffes, one with long necks, like today, and anotheer with short necks.
Now, during a period, there is no food on the ground because everything else has eaten it already. So, naturally only the long-necked giraffes are going to be eating. The short-necked oness die off, leaving what is commonly known as "Survival of the fittest". Now, the surviving ones breed. And naturally, when they breed, they breed with the strongest of them. So, only the strongest keep going on. And, they have a kid that is slightly better then them. So, that kid breeeds and so on and so forth until giraffes keep getting better and better.
But, things just don't happen randomly. They need a reason.
For example, if there was no shortage of food, the giraffes would not have evolved.

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Sakura15

I completely agree with Lordrea on teh Giraffes. Only the fittest will survive and contine making the better and better giraffe. You will understand once you take Biology.

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Mal

Wow, I should really have not stopped reading this thread. It might take me a while to get caught back up again. I couldn't be bothered to read everything I missed (I am lazy), but I skimmed most of it and it seems most of what people are saying about random mutation and natural selection I already answered in posts 50 through 52 of this thread. If you feel like reading all of that, then be my guest. If not, I guess I could re-answer some questions if need be.

Edit: I forgot to mention that this is meant to be a polite debate I.E. No calling everyone who doesn't agree with you "dumbasses". Even if it is your opinion, insulting people is no way to win an argument or prove your point, especially when said point's main focus is love, kindness, forgiveness and understanding. Also, a scientific debate is no place for opinions anyways, either you provide evidence or you don't post.

Lordrea

Uhm, was that at me, or Pwn3DmAst3r?

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Mal

The one I really took note of was Pwn3DmAst3r, but again, I didn't really read it all, so everyone should be a little more causious about what they say in their posts, out of common courtesy for those they may offend.

flareofdragon

This is to that kid who is arguing that Big Bang and Evolution is not true because its a theory.

Theory in science are something with a lot of evidence. If it did not have evidence, it could not stand up in a scientific community because everybody is against everyone. Everybody has rivals and every rival will do everything to destroy your discovery with their own evidence. So a theory coming from a scientific community would require huge evidence to be dislodged.

Also, science does not say god doesn't exist. So I can be religious and still be a scientist.

And really, this debate was already covered. Except this has more swears and way too many extremes. Profanity makes your point seem less professional, and so does random capitilization and too many exclamation marks.

Evolution and Big Bang are one the largest theories in science. So much that there are other theories steaming off of them, thus stupid remarks like whoamg a dog can't change into an elephant should deserve a slap in the face. If evolution said that, it would not be a theory at all.

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