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Old 04-21-2005, 12:24 PM   #76
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ok but god is nothing but yet he is everything right. this is an oxymoron not possible.
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:19 PM   #77
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ok but god is nothing but yet he is everything right. this is an oxymoron not possible.
two words, jumbo shrimp.
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yes jumbo shrimp is also one but that is because of mutations. god is every everywhere which means he is gas or water but yet he is nothing which means he has no mass. so which ist it, is he everything or is he nothing.
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The way I see it is that there is no way that "big bang" crap could work. There is no way that are entire universe(s) could be created by accident and feature fully functional and intelligent human beings and animals. Anyways, I beleive in God.
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As for me, I'm on God's side Reason being, I believe there's a much deeper meaning to this world simply that science could never explain.
Wow. That is one of the most intelligent (yet simple) qoutes I have ever heard. I whole-heartedly agree.
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:18 PM   #81
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He also didn't want Earth to be perfect, it is only designed as preparation for eternity and decides what we will do in Heaven (how we will serve God).
ok so this is just a jugement ground for heaven or hell correct? but god forgives all right? so hell must be empty.
"He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much." ~Luke 16:10 not true i can hate someone cause they kill my family and not hate all and i can not be faithful in much but be faithful in little








Actually, this is life from God, not from nothing.
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Eternity has nothing to do with our earthly bodies, so what happens to our physical beings after death is irrelevant, it's entirely spiritual. Our soul lives forever, not our body. only if u belive u have a soul. i think that u live for one time and onetime only. u sould always "live like u were diein"





we did evolve because jesus created us perfectly, well then why free will, why sins available, why war available, why all this other not so perfect stuff to lead to temptation, sins, wars, deceptions, non religions? why all of that if we were created perfectly? my friend said this
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That Is a really good question. I believe it is because God is a god of compassion. mercy, and he believes that people should have the freedom to choose what they want to do as long as they are living. I think that he wants us to accept him with our own free-will. I do not exactly know why there is sin and war and all that, but maybe it teaches us something. Like how the world is evil, but you do not have to be.
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One question is that if god created all living things, why did he only give humans that choice? And if he favors humans, why doesn't he make all creatures in their likeness? There is variation in life that cannot always be described as the work of a single entity.
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ok but god is nothing but yet he is everything right. this is an oxymoron not possible.

god is every everywhere which means he is gas or water but yet he is nothing which means he has no mass. so which ist it, is he everything or is he nothing.
God isn't everything, and He most certainly isn't nothing. He is everywhere, but not in the sense you are thinking. You are looking at this in an entirely physical way, God is spiritual, not physical. He isn't even bound by time, so I don't think the laws of physics stand much of a chance against Him either (He did create both, after all). As it just so happens, alot of arguments against God are just like this one, absolutely sensless.

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Humans may have been created perfectly according to God's design for us, but we are certainly not perfect beings. So, if we aren't perfect, but God gave us free will so that we could love and actually mean it, then doesn't that automatically leave alot of room for error? Besides, it was Satan who introduced sin to the world, not God, not us.

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One question is that if god created all living things, why did he only give humans that choice? And if he favors humans, why doesn't he make all creatures in their likeness? There is variation in life that cannot always be described as the work of a single entity.
The choice of faith? Why would animals need it? I don't quite understand what you mean by "And if he favors humans, why doesn't he make all creatures in their likeness?" Variation in life that can't be described as the work of a single entity? What variation would this be? I'd think there'd be more variation with an intelligent designer than with random mutation and natural selection.
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The way I see it is that there is no way that "big bang" crap could work. There is no way that are entire universe(s) could be created by accident and feature fully functional and intelligent human beings and animals. Anyways, I beleive in God.
That is a theory, no one said that the big bang is truth, and if someone did tell you that the big bang is definately true then they don't know what they are talking about. Although if you accept that fact that you can't understand how god can do these things, then how can you use the fact that you can't understand how the universe could have been created thru the big bang as a reason for not believing it?
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I'll believe 100% in science when it has all the answers. Which will be probably never, after all, for all the technological advancement we've made, simple things in nature like how the bee is able to fly is unable to be explained.

I'm not really a religious person though either. I have my own set of beliefs that I hold, and in my life experience organised religion has shown itself to be a bad thing.
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Actually we figured that out, I saw a show on it. It has to do with the way the bee flaps it's wings, they tilt on the way up.
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Genetic mutations aren't random occurences. Evolution has to do with the idea that creatures with helpful natural variations survive better than those without them, and they pass the traits on to their offspring. Over millions of years and many environment changes, evolution makes a lot of sense. Each animal is highly adapted to its particular environment. It's why creatures from different sides of the world that have similar environments are similar. Also, there are so many small differences between many species. It's hard to imagine why God would create so many small variations when the common ancestor that sprouted them survived in its environment in the first place. If there is geology, there is most likely evolution. If physics exist, then even God would have to enact some form of evolution to ensure the survival of living creatures.
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