Trey

I didn't know he was... O.o

Anyways, I think we agree on Jiraiya?

MikeyM1979

Yup.

Hm. Just who can post time skip Sakura beat in battle, other than Sasori?

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AnticitizenOne

I feel left out. What are we discussing now? From what it looks like it's just a random pointless chat between Mikey and Trey about how "gawdly" Trey's arguments are.

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Trey

But they are gawdly. >.>

We were talking about who's the best non-genius, now it's about who can Post TS sakura defeat other then Sasori.

Also, Sakura would have died VERY quickly against Sasori if Chiyo wasn't there.

UchihaTaijiya

Trey is gawdly. ^-^
So am I.
<3

Tis true.
Sakura needs to work on her speed.

Neji and Hinata are her natural enemies too, considering they have the power to stop chakra.

I say she could beat a lot of the Rookies, probably not Neji or Lee (too fast), and because of Hinata's natural advantage, Sakura would have a harder time against her.

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Trey

Truth.

More truth.

Shino too. And Temari's weapons my be too much for her. And Naruto is a given. Also, even though he's not an original Rookie, Sai would obliterate Sakura.

UchihaTaijiya

Oh yeah, Shino's bugs eat chakra. X-X
Sakura needs to train in genjutsu dammit.

If she can get close to Temari, she wins. That's an if though.

Speaking of Sai... I want to see more of his abilities. T.T

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Vizard Killer

Post time skip sakura can't even beat sasori she had help from a person who saved her countless times and sasori is an idiot he in my eyes comitted suicide he wanted to die he could have dodge that attack like it was nothing he chose not to. If sakura actually fought him one on one from the start without chiyo hell she would get kill by hikarusimple as that she improved a whole lot more than naruto and sasuke only because she was a weakling useless kunochi in part 1 her growth is amazing but really she can't bet any aka one on one perhaps she can beat othe weakling like hinata and that other useless girl oh tenten and ino.

UchihaTaijiya

Uh huh. You act as if Sasori is somehow an easy opponent. One that's not twice her age with countless more experience.

Chiyo did save Sakura, but the favor is definitely returned before the end of the battle. <.<

Sasori's choice not to kill his grandmother is what makes me love his character. But I'll leave it to Shrike to open your eyes on the subject of Sasori's genius and character depth.

Probably so. Guess that's why teamwork is said to be invaluable in the Narutoverse.

Sakura was never useless. She's more intelligent than Naruto and Sasuke and her chakra control was superior. She did what she could. Besides that, Kakashi never contributed to her training in the least. >.>

Though I have to agree about the Akatsuki aspect. And that her growth is amazing. (which, please don't forget, that she'll only continue to grow) She will surpass Tsunade, it's been hinted more than once.

>.< I dont like you. =P

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Shrike

Noooooo >.<

I have what it takes!!!

Edit: I guess I will have to say that I think Jiraiya is the strongest non-genius. Though I would give that to Deidara more than gladly, because he is not on our list as well ^^

Nexus

The reason that I say that Naruto's the strongest non-genius is because he could kill Orochimaru while Kyuubified, and since we know that Orochimaru's stronger than Jiraiya, it makes this equation:

Kyuubified (4-tailed or higher) Naruto > Orochimaru > Jiraiya

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UchihaTaijiya

*falls over*

DeiDei-chan!!! How I could I forget? I did the same thing Trey did w/ Kabuto, except in reverse. I thought the sexy bastard was on the list. XD lmao.

And Shrike, I think you're definitely a worthy co-owner. ^.^

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Shrike

Aww <3
Deidara is a genius to me though, as a fellow artist, I can't degrade him ;D
That is why I said Jiraiya in the first place ^^

AnticitizenOne

Another person who I might consider a genius is Gaara. Seriously, he could kill ever since the first day of his life, took down a Chunin when he was FIVE, and had an impenetrable defense. Even now, after losing his Shukaku, he retains his control of sand, he became the Kazekage at his mid teens for god's sake. Becoming a Kage so early in life should be comemmorated, having the shortest record for the second phase of the Chunin Exams, and being able to kill ANYBODY who came across his path.

His fight with Kimimaro was one of the most memorable fights in the history of Naruto, to hold someone so powerful at bay long enough for their disease to take their lives is commendable at the least. Come to think of it, in the beginning of Shippuden he could have defeated any Akatsuki member with the exception of Deidara. Why? Think about it, so much sand around you and so much crushing pressure, do you think someone like Sasori could stand up to that? No way.

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uchiha`itachi

^ i believe we have spoke about gaara i believe but he is a good canidate like for real

i won't say i disagree or agree that jiraiya is the strongest non genius there is becuz there r a lot of non genius out there that r strong so really i can't say anything but i will state that orochimaru is a good chance, naruto being an jin. yeah sure he has all the power to me what makes a strong person is when they r able to use their power and smarts in a fight once u r able to think and use ur powers well in any situation that makes u strong naruto is basically raw power who at times don't think with his brain and know how to use it well at times just in desaprate situations in my opinion