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Old 10-31-2007, 02:08 AM   #1051
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what about Jiraiya? he's really powerful, rather smart, and is a master in seals. I can't believe he's not part of the list.
Jiraiya isn't on the list because it took plenty of hardwork and dedication on his behalf to acquire all the jutsus and knowledge that he has. I really can't say the same about the people that are on the list.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:23 AM   #1052
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but it took skill also. It's not like Tsunade gained her medical skills overnight.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:08 AM   #1053
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:46 PM   #1054
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but it took skill also. It's not like Tsunade gained her medical skills overnight.
Jiraiya's more of a hardworking genius. He had to work hard to do what he could. Tsunade, I believe, didn't have to work as hard as him. (After all, she was the Shodaime's...granddaughter?) Think Jiraiya, then Kakashi. Kakashi got all of his skills easily, and he even made up his own jutsu.

I would like to say that Jiraiya is like Naruto in terms of why he's not really a genius, but... Hmmm... Naruto is a hardworker, Jiraiya is a hardworker. Jiraiya is overly talented in his later years, ditto Naruto. This...hmm...
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:43 AM   #1055
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Re: The Genius FC

^ id have to agree with u about jiraiya, my first impulse however was to disagree. I didnt think he was a genius because jiraiya is quite old after all, and most of his skills were just simply acquired with time- which has no implication of genius itself, while he was younger there were several shinobi who had already matched or surpassed his level... but on further consideration, ive realized he is in fact a genius of sorts, not by his talent for his ninja arts, but for the ability he has to be a great teacher- and, as we all know, teaching skills to others takes planning, foresight, patience, intellect and genius. So for that reason, i think he deserves a spot.

Okay, Does being lazy disqualify you as being genius??? Because if it doesnt then shikamaru should definitely be on the list! He has unlimited potential, and undoubtedly if he put all of his effort into it, im sure he could be one of the greatest shinobi around. Other characters in Naruto also see this potential in him, Shika is most def a genius... just a lazy genius thats all.

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Old 11-07-2007, 05:53 PM   #1056
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*cough* He is on the list.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:58 PM   #1057
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Last time I checked, as Sharingan Lord said, Shikamaru was on the list. Although the bit of if he put his all, then he could be one of the greatest is a bit of a stretch.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:44 PM   #1058
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ohhhh!!! (blushes) he's on the list huh?....haha sorry for the mix up

but anyways^ why is it a bit of a stretch? although he may not have the superior physical prowess or ninjutsu ability, his capacity for foresight is amazing and truly surpasses all others. Its strategy that wins battles, my friend, not power.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:53 PM   #1059
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So you're implying that Shikamaru is more intelligent than ALL others? You realize you're including all other known geniuses.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:07 AM   #1060
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oh no no, not at all. I never said he was more intelligent, i said his capacity for foresight was great- there is a difference. Because of this ability it makes him a superior strategist and therefore a very formidable opponent. Even if he were to go up against someone way more powerful than him, he could use this ability to out maneuver them and ultimately win the battle- if you know every move your opponent is going to make, then avoiding injury, attacking and defending becomes a matter of child's play (this is all, of course, based on the scenario where he is using his full potential, and not being the lazy bastard he usually is).
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:08 AM   #1061
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Ah, I see.

Still, even at his best, I doubt he could pull off a strategic plan against ninjas like Orochimaru, Jiraiya, Minato.....
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:10 AM   #1062
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Shikamru is smar tbut not on a level like yondaime a man who creates ninjutsu which are the most powerful in the shinobi world i=has an intelect nobody from this time can top sandaime jiraiya itachi are all the same as is orohimaru.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:15 AM   #1063
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damn ur fast, mikey.

as for minato, im not quite sure if he could out maneuver him either- minato was gifted with foresight as well and simply because we dont know that much about his character, but as far as oro and jiraiya- i dont doubt at all that he could out maneuver them at his best. Jiraiya of course, he would simply assess the situation, taking into account the type of attacks he's prone to using and devise a plan based on that information, same goes for oro- at his best, and assuming he had info on their attack types and so on- it wouldnt be that hard for him at all.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:19 AM   #1064
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Wait wait, are you saying at his best, Shikamaru could devise a successful plan against a healthy Orochimaru, and a serious Jiraiya?
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:23 AM   #1065
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Yes. I am. At his best, which none of us have seen yet, may i remind you...
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