fieldscarcrow

Oh...my...god (or there lack of) Holy..crap...I thought you were awsome, you were christian and you were proud of it but...damn..I just lost all respect for you. You want non-christians like me to be saved? You want us, those who dont beleave in being saved, to be saved? How the flying fuck would we be saved? Even if we were how would you or I know what being saved feels like or is? Is god sitting up there waiting for you and when you see him, hes like "*points and waves finger* You..you, your a silly guy! A nice one..but you didnt get saved, tough shit, rot in hell" How do you even know if all of what your so violently spewing is true?! How do you know you have it right? Faith. Plain and simple. Some have it, some dont. But its what you have faith in that matters.....to you and other christians/jews/etc. apparently. Why do you want us saved? 'cause every body deserves a chance at redempetion? Everyone has the right to thrust themselvs on their knees so they can repent and beg their god for forgivness? Do not grieve for me. Do not weep or loose sleep for me. Do not pitty or feel sorrowful for me. Do not prey for me. Dont even preach to me. I dont want promises of heaven and a hell, a life of peace cause i have welcomed god, or an after life that is made by my actions. To you I say that I welcome hell, I welcome heaven. I welcome god and all of his apposols (Spelling?) I welcome your bible that you have placed on my table, and I welcome your concequnces for my actions. I do not shun then. I do not ignorantly disgard them and continue you living naively. I take them in, choose what I believe to be right and what isnt. I do not want to be saved for god should welcome all his children into his loveing embrace not shun the bad ones. God invented free will and gave it to man, man invented law. God should not be governed by man's laws. Dont feel bad for your friends, for their lives are not worse then yours because they are not god fanatics. All of you christians are the same, every single one of you. You go to get ashes on your forhead but asked what it means and you trip on your tounge trying to find and answer. I ask you why jesus died for my sins when noone asked him to and you deny my right for an answer. I tell you that I do not believe in god, and you all either pitty me, prey for me, say something negitive about it. Look in this thread. Has one nice thing been said about people like me? No. Why? I have no idea. Maybe we are less then christians because we dont welcome god. Maybe we arnt nice due to lack of jesus. Maybe you christians are as blind as you claim people like me are. I have read the bible, and Iv said my prayers. I have recieved communion and I have seen miricales. But not once, not a single second, did I feel god. When I was taking care of my dying great uncle, when I had to lift his body up with the help of the nurse, god's arms were not lifting him with us, or alone. I do not blame god for his death. I simply do not see how god was with that man. When my father left, where was your god? When my grandfather, a devout jehova (spelling?) witness, got hit by a car becuase it was raining..where was your god? When I was having my mental break downs, weeping on the floor, screaming in emotional pain, and rotting inside. Where was he then? When my mother wept in the arms of her now x husband as her father layed in a casket. Where was he? Where was his embrace? When girls are raped, and men are murderd. When sheep are obliterated by a shot gun to the temple. When a car goes the wrong way and merges with a child. When the wind blows the wrong way and a man falls from a building. When a teenager is hurting themselvs, and doing all that they can to help themselves, but there still asking for help. Where is god? This god you so proudly shout in a march of doctrin. You have no answer, do you? Oh, wait you do. "They didnt accept jesus/god into their lives" So for this they should be punished? For this they should weep, and bleed, and scream, and hurt, and die? For this a man of the cloth is hypocritcaly killed for no good reason? For this a school girl is molested and raped by people on the streets walking home from bible study? I am sorry but I reject your god. For this god seems unjust and his rule seems as lost as his vision. For this god is no god, but a simple man who is no longing making sence but now is playing rules that seldom few can understand. Oh but its all for a purpose? That I agree with. But god has no purpose other then the one I have stated, to fill a hole. My father leaving and grandfather dieing has made me strong. But for those who are not me, what of them? The girl who got raped, what are the postives? The child who got melted into the front end of a hummer, what was the purpose in that? I ask you, no..I beg of you. Give me an answer. Give me a sensable purpose for all this choas that you have so willingly explained with the same old bull crap. Give me a new reason. Some thing that doesnt require my faith, something that makes sence no matter where you heart is. Till you can, I ll reject this paper mache god of yours.

sand_illusions

Now listen up a long darn hard minute FS, yes, yes I know that things happen to people, you think that i'm NOT aware of that??? you think, you think that all Christians are goody-goody two-shoes??? u think that everything is handed to us on a golden platter??? u my friend, have got it all wrong, way wrong.

first off, when you said:
"I ask you why jesus died for my sins when noone asked him to and you deny my right for an answer"

that, my friend, is a false statement, I can give you your answer right here and now.

Jesus died for your sins because God asked him to. you were so darn important to him that he asked his son to die for you. God LOVES you so much, so much that he wanted his son to die, Jesus took the weight of the world, all the murders, lies, broken promises, hatred, jealousy, and took it upon himself on the cross so that we can be reunited with God.

and you said how there are so many things in the world wrong, deaths, sickness, hate, rapes, murders, you think that those things avoid Christians??? you think that all other people who aren't Christians get punished BECAUSE they are are not Christian??? well listen up here and now! My grandfather has bone and blood cancer, and probably wont live much longer, my sister almost died at birth numerous times, my other grandfather died at age 56 because of a brain disease, my friend Kristina has failing kidneys and is expected to be wheel chair confined because of her illness before she is 16, her brother has MS and is confined to a wheel chair already, my other friend rachel tried to commit suicide numerous times before becoming a Christian because of all her problems, I was depressed and thought about cutting numerous times, my great grandmother is what my mom calls a body without a soul, after my great grandfather died, she now lives only to remember him, my pastor was an alcoholic, some friends of mine (who i will leave unmentioned) are Christian, but still underage drink and are suspected of doing drugs, my brother had to get spinal tap because of his sickness (long word i can't remember) and the doctors forgot to close it, his spinal fluids leaked into his body for 4 days, I've been in a car accident, my aunt has breast cancer for the third or fourth time, and that isn't even all of it! don't you see??? Just because we are Christians doesn't mean that God pays extra attention to us! God loves us all the same! ALL of us, even serial killers an rapists, all the same!

Where was God you ask when you were going through your tough time??? I aske dhtat very same thing when I was kicked out of the house at 15 for a while, at one time not allowed out of my room for a time, my mother gave me constant death threats, she told me how i'd never amount to anything, i was worthless and repulsive, and no one would ever like me, well guess WHAT!?! despite all that, i am still here, still here! yeah, maybe you have some other stuff going on in your life, maybe you feel (pardon my language cause I dnt speak like this) crappy and downright full of shit because your family is all f-up??? have you ever called out to God, not as an expirament to see if he would answer, but ask him like a dad, like a father, have you read in the Bible for a verse that describes you, have you ever taken the time to think about someone other than yourself for a minute???

okay. now breathe. say all the junk you want about what i just said, and think. think. think. how bad is your life actually? are you starving? do you have a house? a computer? a friend? a dream? what you want to be?

now, onto your next question.

The girl who got raped, what are the postives? The child who got melted into the front end of a hummer, what was the purpose in that? I ask you, no..I beg of you. Give me an answer. Give me a sensable purpose for all this choas that you have so willingly explained with the same old bull crap. Give me a new reason. Some thing that doesnt require my faith, something that makes sence no matter where you heart is. Till you can, I ll reject this paper mache god of yours.

what are the positives in this? what are the positives of the hate, the death, the illness, and the horrid things that happen daily? My friend DJ for example. He's a big, 18 year old, did some not to bad things, and with his parents the way they are, yeah, he partied some, drank some, the normal average tryin to keep a bad-guy attitude up kinda guy. Until a certain bad event happened(which he wont tell us) he gripped the realization that he needed to stop doing these things. Some of us at church invited him to cme, and he tried it, not to willingly tho. In fact, he thought is was downright gay helping out the third graders, and didn't come back. Something else happened, and he came again. and again. and again until he accepted the love of God at church camp. He needed a father, a kind, loving father who would always accept him, and he found that through God. and the church gave him a HUGE (70 highscoolers) who loved and cared about him enough to spend time with him and help him along the road to Christ. Through bad expiriences, it can bring them to Christ, no lie, my family was splitting ofr a while, and my mom say how happy some of her friends were at church, so she went to church one Sunday cause she wanted to know what made their families so close, so tight togehter, and there we realized the love of Christ, its like an invisible bond of comfort around us, which is a beautiful feeling. its really hard to feel God unless you know him personally, which is what a Christian is. Its a long difficult road, but it is amazingly worth it in the end, which is why i pray SO hard that everyone can feel his love, and just like my sig, even if you don't want me to, i will pray for you. go to my pastors my space, http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...5-0a973e8836ba, and check out his blogs, they are awesome, also, see you at the pole is coming up at schools, you could go ask about God through your classmates that morning.

anymore questions??? i'll answer them for you

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fieldscarcrow

More questions? You have answered nothing! The girl who was raped that is no laying dead, defiled, cold, and rotting in the back of a ware house, how is that good for her. The killer who is fine with his acts, he doesnt go to god, keeps killing and is never caught. Where are the positives? Negitives dont always make a person go to God.

I never said christians have it easier nor do they escape alement, i dont realy know where you got that from. Also why the hell does god care about his son? He can make more! thousands. If he wanted to, he could endow all of us with his powers. jesus (his son) was a hollow shell that is easily replacated. So I find nothing palable in his death. It was god just saying "Omg look...MAGIC TRICK" and we all just pissed and shit ourselvs.

If you are right, I am thus then god's child. I shouldnt have to ask my father for help. My real father, if he saw me shooting birds he would grab the gun and remove it from my hands. Why does god not do the same? 'cause I have not exepted him? Well now...i guess hes right....lets make people believe by believing in me! YEAH!

I personaly think you filtered my question, not answered them.

dirk667

WooHoo! that was so long i didnt even bother reading it! GO JESUS!!

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EJ

Jesus is teh shit!

dirk667

Oh yeah. i should make an amv of jesus! XD

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shinovsnaruto

NOOO THIS FC IS DYING BECAUSE SOME PPL DO NOT READ THE FIRST PAGE. Talking bad about Christianity is not something you type in this FC!

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hi my fellow brothers and sisters whats new?

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dirk667

Shino, i love you bro, i really do, but its gonna happen. deal with it. come back with some answers. tell 'em why christianity isnt so bad.

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shinovsnaruto

true

THe Father in Heaven is one who can not be seen or touched, only feel him by heart. When your heart is telling you not to shot with the gun, God is doing the same thing you father would do. He is telling you that it is wrong. If you choose to do so anyways that is your problem. God is always watching over you and telling what you are doing: right or wrong.

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heres something interesting
God proved his love on the cross.When Christ hung, and bled, and died, it was God saying to the world, "I love you."

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shinovsnaruto

That should be enough proof for most people.

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yep trying too decrease the hate within this fanclub

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dirk667

God is in the world all around us. look at our atmosphere, magnetic field, the trees, stones, water, or the stars. did u know that in nature, there isnt anything straight? i mean like a square or something. tree, round. the earth, round. rivers, curve. us, round bodies. ever wonder why curved blades are stronger then straight? round pillars support weight better than square ones. god is awsome and we get the chance to see that everyday in everythin around us. Praise his name. specially since he got me a gf! ^_^

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shinovsnaruto

Lucky you! Hope the love will last. But there are so many rules in the Bible for the perfect women. Maybe you should try following them. It would be great if she already had the characterics too!

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