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Old 09-23-2007, 06:07 AM   #1
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So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

Just as the name of the thread implies, who thinks Kishimoto started doing major amounts of crack and/or heroin when he was coming up with the story after the time skip? I know I'm not the only one dis-satisfied with Naruto's current direction, infact, I havn't been happy about it for a while now. I stopped following the series months ago, but a friend of mine follows it to see how far it's going to spiral down before it stops, and he gives me ocassional updates, and it seems as though the series keeps getting worse and worse. I mourn the lose of what was once a great series, all that is left now however are ashes.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:38 AM   #2
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

*raises hand*
But, you should have brought this in the manga section maybe.
I had my hopes too high, though, so I blame myself.
The last chapter made me want to quit reading Naruto.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:49 AM   #3
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

I'm glad others agree.

-side note-
I thought about putting it in the manga section, but felt that it spanned the whole of the series, not just the manga.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:39 AM   #4
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

I still like the manga but you are correct, the story has been a little off. You'd think since Naruto, being the protagonist and all, would be more awesome then everyone else. Right now they are making Sasuke as the best freaking thing since slice bread and Naruto is stuck behind with his little Rasengan. I don't know, just ranting.
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:08 AM   #5
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

I kind of agree with Kakashi. The storyline is just frickin' stuck; like, they're not exactly getting anywhere, IMO.
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:09 AM   #6
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

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Just as the name of the thread implies, who thinks Kishimoto started doing major amounts of crack and/or heroin when he was coming up with the story after the time skip? I know I'm not the only one dis-satisfied with Naruto's current direction, infact, I havn't been happy about it for a while now. I stopped following the series months ago, but a friend of mine follows it to see how far it's going to spiral down before it stops, and he gives me ocassional updates, and it seems as though the series keeps getting worse and worse. I mourn the lose of what was once a great series, all that is left now however are ashes.
Not entirely. What I disliked was how Hidan, while being a moron, had no back story. Neither did Kakuzu. I didn't mind that Deidara died the way he did, though. I would've liked to have seen Sasuke actually kill Orochimaru, not kill his physical form, and leave other ways for Oro to come back in some way. As for Pein and Konan possibly being from Konoha, well, if that speculation is based on the sensei part, that's just speculation. Jiraiya was a free roaming ninja, all over the place. So he may have taught others in other villages.
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:17 PM   #7
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

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ho thinks Kishimoto started doing major amounts of crack and/or heroin when he was coming up with the story after the time skip?
Nah, that was Kubo Tite *cough* >.>

I still like reading the manga, but the way I see it, the reason why Sasuke is the main character in this saga is because Kishi wants to find a way to extend Naruto series.
Mangaka these days are doing their best to have created the longest manga/anime in history, seriously. But they use the worst techniques.

I think if anyone does it good, it's the mangaka of DBZ and One Piece.
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:23 PM   #8
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

Well, I don't think he's on crack, he's just in some semi-writer's block and to keep up a chapter every week, he makes it up as he goes along.

But...He really is plunging the story into a void end now...
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

i entirely agree with you. the beginning was an amazing build up to something epic and now it doesnt seem that great once we're in the middle of the experience. the anime in my opinion is an even greater disappointment. The animation and the proportion of the faces and bodies, the slow movement speed, just makes me sick. At least the manga is drawn nicely...if it wasnt i'd give up on naruto.
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Old 09-23-2007, 02:10 PM   #10
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

Personally I hated the arc where they started to introduce elements. I especially hated the Hidan and Kazuku arc not because they died so easily but because they seemed to come out of no where and was thrown in as a place holder. Also they didn't have that akatski vibe if you catch my drift. They were loud and obnoxious and to tell you the truth I wanted them dead a lot faster than they did.

Also I don't like how the three teams Asuma cell, Team 7, Team 8(or whatever) got only 1 fight and even the 1 fight they got sucked hard. They barely did anything and served as background fill-ins. How are we surpose to debate about if the Hyuugas or Uchihas are better if we hardly have any fights from Neji to compare them with Sasuke's so we can end our fanboy fued about kaiten, 128 palms and sasuke's insane speed and sharigan?

Personally I hope that Team Snake and Naruto's squad gets to fight so we can see some great fighting action.

I want to see Shino vs Suigetsu, Karin vs Hinata, Naruto, Kakashi & Sakura vs Sasuke and Kiba & Yamoto vs. Juugo.......
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Old 09-23-2007, 02:17 PM   #11
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

Ah, Ne thinks Kishi is being rushed, or rather rushing himself, so he can finish Naruto and move on to the yakuza manga, Mario. The story is suffering tremendously and the techniques seem to be getting lamer, but he is doing what it is and no matter what happens, I think we will continue it until the end.
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

I don't know about you but the whole elements thing seemed to be like a tacked on gimmick to get mroe readers that was thrown in at the last minute.
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

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I still like the manga but you are correct, the story has been a little off. You'd think since Naruto, being the protagonist and all, would be more awesome then everyone else. Right now they are making Sasuke as the best freaking thing since slice bread and Naruto is stuck behind with his little Rasengan. I don't know, just ranting.
yeah, I know. they gave him the rasenshuriken, his ultimate weapon, and then they took it away! They need to give him SOMETHING!!!

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I want to see Shino vs Suigetsu, Karin vs Hinata, Naruto, Kakashi & Sakura vs Sasuke and Kiba & Yamoto vs. Juugo.......
I'll be willing to bet that they will be fighting TOGETHER, not against each other. If it does come to this, Sakura's going to go after Karin though. Or maybe after they defeat the atasuki members, she'll punch Karin for saying something about Sasuke a clear 1/4 mile. But a catfight would be good anyways.
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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

Personally I like the time skip,while I will agree that the 1st half was

better,all good things must come to an end,naruto is just gone on

for a long time and kishi dosn't want to repeat the same thing over

again.(If that made any sense)

Now what is this about writers block that I hear?

Lets see naruto and everyone has grown become A LOT stronger

than before,yes naruto barley knows any new teqnuiqes but that

goes for part 1 as well if you liked naruto then when he spamed his

moves,you should like him now when he spamed all his moves.We

are starting to find out about a the founder of the uchiha

clan,akatsuki is one of the coolest villain groups ever,naruto can go

into 4 tails mode wich is alot cooler than one tail in the first

part,jiryia is about to have an awsome show down with pein,I mean

things are not bad and this is the same naruto I remember just not

as good but still good.I mean oro died and kabuto took his

power,sasuke made his own team and is about to fight itachi,sakura

and an old lady took down an akatsuki member,gaara went all out

on dedaria I mean there have bean lots of big steps takin in this

part of the manga and I think it is good.Now we find out yamato

might of sealed the fox in naruto so naruto can acomplish some

type of destiny and we just keep learning more and more intresting

stuff.

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Re: So, who Thinks Kishimoto went crazy?

Look at all you whiners(except Garra and Mikey). Kishi is doing a great job, hes puttin every character in. Hidan and Kakuzu easily had the Akatsuki vibe, when a member dies, the members usually laugh and don't care. Kishi is buildin up the story to be filled with Naruto. Soon you will see Naruto almost every sec. And personally I like the bad ass people, I like watching other people fight, I think it's interesting(except Sasuke, Damn you Sasuke, you only beat Deidara because of Plot no Jutsu). So just wait a month or so, and see what will happen, I can already see it hsppening.
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