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Old 10-25-2007, 05:09 AM   #1
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6th Element

Jiraiya states that nagato has access to all six forms of elemental chakra by the age of ten. In the series has only identified five element (earth, lightning, water, fire, wind), the question is what is the 6th element?

possible answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_...cal_element%29

based on the link, if kishi based the elemental type on maori beliefs its possible pein can also use mokuton (wood). Its possible pein can suppress a bijuu using this justsu, same like shodaime & yamato.

another possible answer is Void / Sky / Heaven on japanese beliefs, i don't if kishi made sky=lightning..

if i'm wrong then i'm sorry...
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:25 AM   #2
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Re: 6th Element

I Believe its either metal, light or dark but i reckon its dark.. or metal..
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:28 AM   #3
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Re: 6th Element

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Jiraiya states that nagato has access to all six forms of elemental chakra by the age of ten. In the series has only identified five element (earth, lightning, water, fire, wind), the question is what is the 6th element?

possible answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_...cal_element%29

based on the link, if kishi based the elemental type on maori beliefs its possible pein can also use mokuton (wood). Its possible pein can suppress a bijuu using this justsu, same like shodaime & yamato.

another possible answer is Void / Sky / Heaven on japanese beliefs, i don't if kishi made sky=lightning..

if i'm wrong then i'm sorry...
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I Believe its either metal, light or dark but i reckon its dark.. or metal..
it probably isn't void/aether. That is the japanese elemental system and Kishi's system is chinese with a few japanese elements replacing a few of the chinese ones. those are wood, replaced by lightning, and metal, replaced by wind.


it is DEFINITELY NOT METAL. Metal is probably a paraelement, like wood and ice are. my money is on earth + fire, but that's a discussion for another thread.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:11 AM   #4
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Re: 6th Element

hmm... it shouldn't be either wood or metal since you have to combine elements to do them... aether can be a possibility. what elements are there that can be a basic?
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Re: 6th Element

like I said, sound or light
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:45 AM   #6
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Re: 6th Element

This is posted by a translator Iwanin at mangahelpers, and I agree with him because I really believe that Yin/Yang manipulation is the 6th way:

You know, with all this talk of what the "sixth" element is, I feel compelled to point out that, technically, the term "element" has yet to appear even once in the manga.

The term which has appeared, 性質変化, is a composite kanji term, and fictional by the way (read: Kishi made it up), but it's made up of two very real words: 性質 and 変化.

性質 is "aspect", "nature", "property", "quality"...

変化 is "transformation," "change."

Kakashi said that this "transformation" is broken up into five basic types. Yamato added that there was an additional "transformation," "Yin-yang."

It's all there in the explanatory notes I added at the end of my trans, for those who haven't read it.

http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20195

Additionally, let me add that the counter used for the "six" thingies refers to "methods" or "ways." So it's not six elements, it's six ways of transforming chakra.

What am I getting at?

The term "element" has only been used up to this point because "earth, wind, fire, lighting and water" are separately known as "the five elements," not because the term ever appeared in the manga; so it's pointless to look for another "element."

Considering Yamato already called "yin-yang" a 性質変化, I'd be very surprised if the sixth "transformation" alluded to were not "yin-yang" manipulation.

In other words, wind transforms chakra by making it like a blade and very fine. Water makes it flow, lightning zig zags and jumps, fire expands, earth stills. Yin/Yang would be, to make a simile, would be like changing the brightness of a painting. You can make it brighter or darker, but its still just changing the brightness. Therefore its very possible for it to be Yin Yang.
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:03 PM   #7
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Re: 6th Element

Like in the movie "the fifth element", the last element is LOVE










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Re: 6th Element

It's probably Kage... (Shadow Element)

Hey we've seen some shadow jutsus used by the third hokage, Shikamaru, and Naruto of course.

Like the Nara clan can easily manipulate Shadows to their advantage in combat.

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The sixth element could be void that nullifies elemental jutsus and such..
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Re: 6th Element

could be the yin yang thing that flaredragon was talking about or his clan had its own element. Kinda like nara clan has shadows maybe his had another element. I kinda think the yin yang theory or something dealing with that demon statue???i really dont know
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Re: 6th Element

metal is the only other common/typical element. Maybe thats why his bodies have all of those metal piercings.
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metal sounds resonable but it is weird to have... as a leader and all i guess.
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Re: 6th Element

I stand by my theory that i posted in the 375 discussion thread.I believe that the sixth chakra is what is now called, the Life Chakra. Here is a link to my theories. (note, the human chakra that it says would now be considered Life Chakra).
Page 5, Post #74 http://forums.narutocentral.com/show...t=33884&page=5

Page 6, Post #76, 78, 81, 83, 85, and 90 http://forums.narutocentral.com/show...t=33884&page=6

Quite a few post, but i think that i got something that could actually be true. Please read, it is good in my opinion.
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it could be metal
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i've read this on wikipedia, i hope it could help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petal_%28chakra%29
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Re: 6th Element

by the way, according to what i've read on that link, originally, the 5 elemental chakras are: earth, water, fire, air & space

according to that link:
"less ancient sources have added two or three major chakras to the original list while contemporary New Age writings have added a plethora of minor ones. Recent chakra literature has also expanded the original list of five elements with many different and sometimes rather arbitrary elemental notions such as time or light for the brow chakra, and consciousness or pure energy for the crown chakra."
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