Shrike

Don't get me wrong, Kishi has done a great thing involving the real life messages out of a manga. All those who read it will at least think about nuclear catastrophe which can befell us any time now.

But the problem is, he already showed us hardships of humans.
No need to spin the whole manga and Akatsuki's true goal about showing us that wars are bad.

kidmac1

You are such a hypocrite. I would know because I post the Naruto and Bleach episode all the time and your one of the people that complain about Naruto Shippuden episodes not being animated well(like you could do any better)when the quality is as unpredictable as it always has been.

People are not complaining just because the anime hasn't gone the way they wanted it to be, its a number of things that lead up to this negative(and I'm not talking about animation)reaction.

Its like Shrike said AL BH are just the straw that broke the Camel's back...maybe not I just wanted to say it anyway. But the whole Uchiha thing taking hold of 90% of story just because the writer is too obsessed with Sasuke that he can't show much or in some cases any love to the other characters. The fact that he made Sasuke so cool and Naruto such a annoying dumbass in the beginning could have been fixed and improved on in Shippuden but he again just wanted his fav to seem even more cool and badass that he gave Naruto a little more height and three more tails that he couldn't even control.

On a side note Naruto had better control of Kyuubi when he was a kid......

Anyway I think that the fans in Japan were complaining about Naruto's growth so he threw in Fuuton Rasengan just to shut them up, but he also put in a fail safe so that Naruto couldn't use it to run shit.

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katonha

I agree. I thought that Pain was an honorable person when he told Kisame to respect your fallen comrades, but now. His goals are just stupid. I agree completely on what Jiraiya said about him being a comedian because after reading what Pain said, i just wanted to slap him silly. I have no idea why Itachi and Kisame would follow such a stupid ideaed AK leader. When i though of AL, i though that he would be completely different. I thought that he would have an actual goal or something, instead of stupid idealistic thoughts like he is a god and that Jiraiya is just a immature kid. It might ruin the manga, but i want Jiraiya to kick his butt.

But hay, like one of you said, we can't complain. It is better than nothing. This may have brought my respect for Pain and Konan down, but i still believe in Madara(even if you guys don't), Itachi, Kisame, and Zetsu. At least we have them, so have some hope people.

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MrPwnzerz

Good thing manga storyline and animation quality are the same thing, right? I'm a huge hypocrite.

kidmac1

I knew you were going to try and come back with that lol but I was talking about the fact that you complain about Naruto and come down on other people for doing it too.

Edit: Did anyone play Unreal Tournament 3 yet?

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MrPwnzerz

If you knew that's how I was going to reply, you acknowledge how flawed your argument is.

Listen, I didn't mean to come off so harsh. It was very early in the morning, and I was groggy, but I still stand by what I said...just in a less douchebaggish way. There's tons of other threads of people complaining about the same stuff, it's stupid to keep starting new threads about it. Everyone has stuff they would've rather seen happen in place of what is happening; crying about it is futile.

kidmac1

The reason I knew you were going to say that is because after I posted my bit I read it and I figured that if you decided to reply to it that would be the part, since I could have worded it a little better. Anyway like my grandma always used to say don't call the kettle black...or something like that.lol

Oh and about those tons of people in other threads complain about Naruto doesn't have anything to do with me, because even though I might have been annoyed before about certain things in Naruto I haven't made much of a fuss up until recently

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Shrike

And just one more thing - I didn't post this thread so I could whine how I don't like the current chapter, that kinda of things go into the chapter discussions thread, but being a hardcore Akatsuki fan, I had to show you where my disappointment likes in the manga as a whole, not just one chapter.

shiki-fuujin

look you people need to just shut up and just see where the kishi is going with this crazy "im a emo and i hate wars so im going to set off a nuke" storyline.which i think is just retarded/good in some way but im not going to thrash the entire manga, because of a single chapter just be patient.that might not be pain's true plan.


Ps those summonings pain did was lame.kishi is taking ideas from the filler the fuma clan now the giant lizard.plus pain did 2 summonings so he should be freaking powerful

Craigkage

It's just the walking cliches that Kishi has fallen into... Maybe this is just fairytale lore or something...

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shiki-fuujin

like inuyasha....it just...wont..die..

LonelyNinja

I still have hopes for Pein and Konan, especially Pein. He seems a lot more intelligent than to make a bunch of nuke-like weapons and sell them to the shinobi nations. Who knows, maybe he'll pull a figurative rabbit out of his hat and pull another fast one. The manga still has some way to go, so a lot could happen for better or for worse.

Silverblade

Okay. What the hell you want Pein and Konan to do? Pick daises and throw them at each other once they get all nine demons?

Okay. So most people thought when Akatsuki gets all nine demons they turn themselves into jinchuuriki or gain money. EITHER way they are trying to gain World domination. So thing is he wants all 9 demons to make a super jutsu that could eradicate a shinobi country... (OKAY LEARN a Katon Oodama Rasenshuriken mixed with wind if you want something like that.) Yeah. Shrike i see what you mean by saying this guy is a failure. But Kishi is going to throw in some bad ass ninjutsus for this guy and for Konan too probably. Yeah you seen what he did to Deidara, Kakuzu and Sasori.. (When they get mad they pull out the big jutsus.) Hmm... Strange enough... Pein using multi animal summonings... Hmmm... He can summon a statue, a crab and now some chamelon.. Nah. Kishi always have some way of building a s*** character of his into gold (Example: Hinata, Sasuke, Sakura, Naruto, etc....) ... so don't be disappointed..

shadow_moon

the ideology of pein is lame.. thinking he's a god, where did kishi got that idea? from other mangas?

i agree on other people that the team of pein & konan sucks... i would better prefer the the team-ups of hidan & kakuzu at least they have better combination even they died easily..

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Shrike

I see your point, LN, but I am simply disappointed with the fact that we got modern world's problems completely installed into Narutoverse, which I find distasteful.
I also found Konan's and Pain's character terribly unlikable. If they don;t turn by 360 degrees, which is impossible now, I don't see them as interesting character I expected.

Ah...

Look man, I don't mean to insult you or anything, but did you actually read my post?
I didn't even mention Pain's crab summon.
It's not about his fighting style or his power. I am sure he will be more than powerful. He is the Al, after all.
I am saying Kishi is installing a fucking nuke in his manga. And Pain is playing the game modern politicians are afraid to play.
And Konan and Pain fail because of their ideology and character, not because they got owned by Jiraiya.
I found Angel and God thing to be too pompous for a character with intelligence of level I expected. That is the real problem.
Ok? =/

No one seems to read OP's these days. People just see a few sentences and they form their quick answer.
This doesn't go for you, Silverblade, your post was better that some other posts who had nothing to do with the OP, just with the topic.

And as I said: