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Old 10-24-2007, 05:36 AM   #1
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Sasuke and Madara

I was doing some research on Uchiha when I got this interesting theory. It may sound stupid, but there are quite some evidence to back it up. Do u think that Sasuke is the descendant of Madara?

Let's begin from the very beggining. Do we really know that Sasuke's dad is really his dad? I've been reading manga and it dosn't seem so. He's like, hiding something. Sure, he takes care of him, but it dosn't seem to me that he's his dad. I can't back up this theory, but it's just a theory.

So, let's say that one day, Itachi ran into Madara. Madara wasn't his sensei 'cause people of Konoha fought he was gone when 1st defeated him(or that's what Jira said. He didn't say: Madara ran of lika a little bitch and continue his life in Konoha. He said: Madara was defeated by the 1st hokage and that it's impossibile that he summoned kyuubi). So, Madara comes to Itachi and says: He boy, want some candy?(just joking)
He says: My, my...what a strong Uchiha u are...
This quote is stupid, but I had to start their conversation. Madara found out that Sasuke is alive and lives in Konoha. Maybe he left his son in Konoha(before he left) go grow up in a strong nin and avenge his father? So, Madara comes up with an evil plan. He barinwashes Itachi with all that MS talk and promise of unlimited power. He let's Itachi know that he wants to destroy konoha to get his revenge on the 1st hokage. He helps Itachi get MS. Itachi killes every Uchiha in the village and let's Sasuke live. Why? My theory is to make Sasuke hate him. To make him want revenge. To make him stronger. Think about it. Sasuke wasn't that strong as a child. If Itachi wanted him to defeat Madara so he had to act as a bad guy to make Sasuke hate him and grow strong enough to kill Madara. Madar thinks that Itachi left Sasuke alive 'cause he told him so. Remember when Itachi told Sasuke that he can find the secret of Uchiha in that hideout? It was on one of the flashbacks.

So, after many years, Itachi comes back to Konoha to steal Naruto. He meets Sasuke once more, and defeats him. So, Sasuke ain't strong enough. Itachi tells him that he lacks hatered and makes a story of killing his best friend to get MS. Why did Itachi lie? I don't think that's the truth. There are other ways of geting MS. Itachi wanted Sasuke's hatered to grow and he wanted him to break his bonds with Naruto so that he won't hold him back. I think he knew about Sasuke's CS and he might have guessed that Sasuke will go to train with Oro as well as he knew that he will eventualy kill Orochimaru('cause Oro's jutsu can't stand a chance against sharingan).

Now, Sasuke killed Orochimaru and he's of to kill Itachi. In his battle against Deidara, Madara saw him fighting(not with his full power). He escaped and Deidara died. Zetsu told Itachi that Sasuke died. Itachi cries in the rain thinking: Fuck...now I'll have to fight Madara. Ofcourse, Madara aint that stupid to belive Zetsu. He still watches Sasuke and soon Sasuke will suprass Itachi. Imagine how strong he must be. Sasuke, using only sharingan, can defeat the most powerful Uchiha who uses MS.

There are many theorys on what is Madara's plan. Maybe he wants to kill Pain, after he seals all tailed beasts. Maybe he want's to destryo Konoha. Once more, I think that Sasuke is related to Madara(not sure about Itachi). I mean, that amount of power in one person. Sasuke will soon become the strongest Uchiha ever. Can't back up this son theory.

OMFG. I was just reading chapter 224 That Day. On page 15, when Iatchi uses MS, he tells Sasuke: We are unique brothers.

What does that mean? And we was talking about some mission he is and how his clan is weak(aresst chapter). How he dosn't want to be a member of a weak clan and how he's doing smoething more important.

A clue? A hint? Are they really related to Madara?
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:55 AM   #2
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So, after many years, Itachi comes back to Konoha to steal Naruto. He meets Sasuke once more, and defeats him. So, Sasuke ain't strong enough. Itachi tells him that he lacks hatered and makes a story of killing his best friend to get MS. Why did Itachi lie? I don't think that's the truth. There are other ways of geting MS. Itachi wanted Sasuke's hatered to grow and he wanted him to break his bonds with Naruto so that he won't hold him back. I think he knew about Sasuke's CS and he might have guessed that Sasuke will go to train with Oro as well as he knew that he will eventualy kill Orochimaru('cause Oro's jutsu can't stand a chance against sharingan).

Now, Sasuke killed Orochimaru and he's of to kill Itachi. In his battle against Deidara, Madara saw him fighting(not with his full power). He escaped and Deidara died. Zetsu told Itachi that Sasuke died. Itachi cries in the rain thinking: Fuck...now I'll have to fight Madara. Ofcourse, Madara aint that stupid to belive Zetsu. He still watches Sasuke and soon Sasuke will suprass Itachi. Imagine how strong he must be. Sasuke, using only sharingan, can defeat the most powerful Uchiha who uses MS.

There are many theorys on what is Madara's plan. Maybe he wants to kill Pain, after he seals all tailed beasts. Maybe he want's to destryo Konoha. Once more, I think that Sasuke is related to Madara(not sure about Itachi). I mean, that amount of power in one person. Sasuke will soon become the strongest Uchiha ever. Can't back up this son theory.

That part makes the most sense, I think sasuke's dad is his dad, seeing as he was the chief of police, it would suffice too say he is very strong. And through his DNA, the strongest hybrid DNA of the Uchihas manifested. I do think Itachi never betrayed konoha, he is a smart guy. I think he did what he did to make sasuke strong to avoid a disastrous future for all. I do think he and sasuke will face off against madara/tobi.
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:45 PM   #3
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Re: Sasuke and Madara

Madara? Sazuke's dad?
i'm sorry but it sounds not so interesting to me..kinda boring storyline
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Old 10-24-2007, 03:19 PM   #4
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Re: Sasuke and Madara

the possibly of Madara having Sasuke as his son is totally flawed. He would have had to of actually had sex with someone else during that time of only a generation ago. So you suggest that Madara using Sasuke's mother in a genjutsu and then had sex with her to make sasuke. Which ever way looked at, there really isn't much of a foundation on that. True that Sasuke's father doesn't really seem to treat Sasuke like his own son.... so taht would leave something else to think about. But i wouldn't go that far to say that he is Madara's son. Now all the uchiha are descendent of Madara, but if you mean the direct lineage...... that could be so. Maybe Sasuke's real parents were killed by someone else. But I still find this whole thing hard to believe since there isn't much to go from it. SOrry, but I can't realy find support for you proposed theory.
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Old 10-24-2007, 03:53 PM   #5
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Re: Sasuke and Madara

Now we only need truavenger4116 to post his comment xD

I SAID THAT SASUKE MAY NOT BE MADARA'S SON, BUT THERE IS SOME SPECIAL CONNECTION BETWEEN HIM AND MADARA
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:22 PM   #6
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Re: Sasuke and Madara

No. It's not Sasuke may not be Madara's son. Its Sasuke ISNT Madara's son. We've seen Sasuke's father.
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:33 PM   #7
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Re: Sasuke and Madara

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Now we only need truavenger4116 to post his comment xD

I SAID THAT SASUKE MAY NOT BE MADARA'S SON, BUT THERE IS SOME SPECIAL CONNECTION BETWEEN HIM AND MADARA
well DGLG, you got your wish and yet here we are again with another incredibly flawed thread. hmmm some things just don't seem to change but im tired today and i don't feel like pointing out how wrong i, and apparentally the rest of this thread,feel you are. so ill just say i agree with SilverYondiame and brandoi. however they only covered the basis about madara being sasukes father and how wrong that is as it is. they left out your little madara\itachi theory. there obviously a connection between them but i dout it was anything like that besides it was stated that MS was written about in there old documentation so madara most likely didn't inform itachi about it he already new. and as for "YOUR" so called "THEORY" about itachi leaving sasuke alive so sasuke would had him detest him the whole nine yard FYI its not your theory its a fact that was stated and repeated by fans and characters so many times its sickens me but further sickens me to call it yours. i dout itachi planned on oro training his brother and i dont think he new about the cs either and i dont think he lied about ms i think thats what he new at the time kakashi's ms is most likely a hybrid sharigan thats my theory anyway because hes not of true blood he can't get the real ms(im debating whether your think itachi is a fortune teller or not at the moment). also itachi already said that he knows sasuke is still alive once again read up on your manga.

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There are many theorys on what is Madara's plan. Maybe he wants to kill Pain, after he seals all tailed beasts. Maybe he want's to destryo Konoha. Once more, I think that Sasuke is related to Madara(not sure about Itachi). I mean, that amount of power in one person. Sasuke will soon become the strongest Uchiha ever. Can't back up this son theory.
WOW!... now your just contradicting yourself you yourself said itachi and madara are connected as for madara's plans we don't now enough yet. lastly "we are unique brothers" hmmm maybe its cause there both extremely powerful, gained power through hate and by any means necessary, and are the last of the uchiha clan (exclude madara).... listen DGLG this is getting tiresome back up your theories and threads with info and save us both some time and arguing....
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No. It's not Sasuke may not be Madara's son. Its Sasuke ISNT Madara's son. We've seen Sasuke's father.
That "connection there" is the fact that Sasuke is an Uchiha. Sasuke's imediate family probably had the strongest strands of Madara's blood. Madara is the first Uchiha. As some of his kids married normal women, maybe Sasuke's father and grandfathers married strictly 2nd cousins or only 2nd cousins who developed their Sharingan as well. I dont think first cousins are too safe genetically.

Sasuke's father seemed to be the Commander of Anbu. Itachi was the most genius Uchiha, excelling at such a young age, to come out of the Uchiha clan. Sasuke is a Cold MF Beast! Sasuke's father said "as expected of MY SON" Clearly he and possibly even his wife as well had the Strongest Uchiha DNA in the Uchiha Clan.
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Sasuke's father seemed to be the Commander of Anbu.
While I have no problem with the rest of your post, this portion is incorrect. First, Sasuke's father was head of the Konoha Police Force, not ANBU. Itachi was a squad leader/commander of ANBU, not his father.
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This what I think wil happen between Sasuke and Madara

Note: Madara is on the bike and Sasuke and Naruto are in the truck

http://www.ejb.com/video/17335/Kids_...ts_pushed.html

LMAO!!!!!!
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While I have no problem with the rest of your post, this portion is incorrect. First, Sasuke's father was head of the Konoha Police Force, not ANBU. Itachi was a squad leader/commander of ANBU, not his father.
I thought Anbu was Konoha's police force even now. I may be wrong but this is what I thought. I called Sasuke's father the commander because I thought it would be the highest position held in any police force. I really don't know the chains of command. I'm just a rogue soldier.
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Sasuke's father seemed to be the Commander of Anbu. Itachi was the most genius Uchiha, excelling at such a young age, to come out of the Uchiha clan. Sasuke is a Cold MF Beast! Sasuke's father said "as expected of MY SON" Clearly he and possibly even his wife as well had the Strongest Uchiha DNA in the Uchiha Clan.
Ok. So are you trying to say that Sasuke's father was Madara? Madara was there when Konoha was FOUNDED. He also fought the First Hokage. You really think Madara was that young?
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Ok. So are you trying to say that Sasuke's father was Madara? Madara was there when Konoha was FOUNDED. He also fought the First Hokage. You really think Madara was that young?
No I meant to quote DLGL when I quoted u. My bad. I dont think Madara is Sasuke's father. I just explained what I thought about it.
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please no more star wars theories about the Uchihas....
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