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Old 11-16-2007, 09:52 PM   #1
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What is a flame?

Hello,

I am a new member to this board, recently I made a thread with copy and pasted material. It seems it got somewhat of a reaction out of some of the members, which was really not my intention.

My question has to do with two members. One of which called me a "noob" and was banned, as "noob" is apparently a flame. However, When Lily229 called me a "nincompoop", an equally derogatory, offensive and harmless "flame", she received no punishment. I was wondering what a flame was, so I tooka gander at the rules, they claimed:

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No Flaming (Flaming: Badmouthing another forum member)
No rascist/discriminative comments or anything of the sort either. Anything like this directly to a member with hateful intention will result in a ban, anything insulting or discriminatory towards a staff member will not be tolerated.
So, if the harmless comment of "Noob" is not allowed to slide, why is "nincompoop"? Bot are child-like responses, and I really doubt Hiraku, or what ever the members name was, meant it in a hateful way.

The only explanation I can think of is that the moderators do not like me, and do like Lily229. I am new, but i have lurked for a few days and found that Lily229 was once a mod, is well liked by many people here and has flamed before. I do nto mean to question the authority of the wonderful moderators of NarutoLounge, but something is not adding up.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:59 PM   #2
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Re: What is a flame?

Quit whining
1, the mods dont have favoritism
2, Nincompoop is not a flame and if she were to get banned then everyone would be up in arms
3, Dont start crap like this or it will end in more troll wars
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:00 PM   #3
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Re: What is a flame?

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Quit whining
1, the mods dont have favoritism
2, Nincompoop is not a flame and if she were to get banned then everyone would be up in arms
3, Dont start crap like this or it will end in more troll wars
Hello TooKaiPai,

I agree with everything you said, however, I am pointing out the fault in their flame policy. If Nincompoop is not a flame, why is noob?
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:01 PM   #4
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Re: What is a flame?

Based off all flame infractions that I've seen administered on this site, a flame is directly calling someone a name. So calling someone a nincompoop (dictionary definition: a fool) should be considered a flame. Pretty sure so is calling someone a poo-poo head, buttface, turd burgler, etc.

Edit:Tookaipai-Shutty, his question is more than valid.

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Old 11-16-2007, 10:14 PM   #5
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Re: What is a flame?

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Based off all flame infractions that I've seen administered on this site, a flame is directly calling someone a name. So calling someone a nincompoop (dictionary definition: a fool) should be considered a flame. Pretty sure so is calling someone a poo-poo head, buttface, turd burgler, etc.

Edit:Tookaipai-Shutty, his question is more than valid.
Thank you for answering my question, Miburo.

So what you are saying is that and insult to a member, directly, is a flame. That would mean we are fine if we type, "All of your comments are fucking retarded" but not if we say "You are a noob"?

This seems a bit ridiculous :\
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:23 PM   #6
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Re: What is a flame?

"Noob" is a 'net creation generally viewed as derogatory, and when used correctly along with pragmatic, can be considered as flame, explaining the ban. I would assume there is variance on a case-by-case basis as well.

As for "nincompoop", the definition used colloquially has come to be somewhat synonymous with "silly", which is much less offensive than something outright as "idiot", "retard", and likewise.

...Or so I'd imagine.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:27 PM   #7
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Re: What is a flame?

I am finding this thread helpful.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:29 PM   #8
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Re: What is a flame?

A flame is any term used in a derogatory manner against another member on the site. I don't know what happened between you and Lily, but if Shino found nothing to be wrong with it; and I believe he was in that thread at the time; then I can't go over his head.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:07 PM   #9
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Re: What is a flame?

Well, my definition of a flame is a personal insult to someone else. Calling someone's comments stupid as shit would actually be personally insulting the poster. It's like calling someone's child stupid, or saying someone's art looks like shit.

Yet, single fucking personal insults should not constitute an instant week ban, like to does here.

And here, flaming only applies to name calling rather than malice in general.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:11 PM   #10
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Re: What is a flame?

you can all be fooled so easily by such a foolish word as noob see im a noob noob noob noob i am calling myself a noob me soldier20 common ban me right now.

see im not calling any one anything but i can write what ever i want against myself see a loop hole.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:20 PM   #11
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Re: What is a flame?

Not quite a loophole.
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No Flaming (Flaming: Badmouthing another forum member)
No rascist/discriminative comments or anything of the sort either. Anything like this directly to a member with hateful intention will result in a ban, anything insulting or discriminatory towards a staff member will not be tolerated.
Unless of course in the situation that you might use a racial slur, that indeed may go punished. Beside that, swearing at oneself hasn't been contrary to any proper forum etiquette that I've witnessed on any board.
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Re: What is a flame?

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Originally Posted by I'dfightGod View Post
Hello,

I am a new member to this board, recently I made a thread with copy and pasted material. It seems it got somewhat of a reaction out of some of the members, which was really not my intention.

My question has to do with two members. One of which called me a "noob" and was banned, as "noob" is apparently a flame. However, When Lily229 called me a "nincompoop", an equally derogatory, offensive and harmless "flame", she received no punishment. I was wondering what a flame was, so I tooka gander at the rules, they claimed:



So, if the harmless comment of "Noob" is not allowed to slide, why is "nincompoop"? Bot are child-like responses, and I really doubt Hiraku, or what ever the members name was, meant it in a hateful way.

The only explanation I can think of is that the moderators do not like me, and do like Lily229. I am new, but i have lurked for a few days and found that Lily229 was once a mod, is well liked by many people here and has flamed before. I do nto mean to question the authority of the wonderful moderators of NarutoLounge, but something is not adding up.
both have been banned.

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Re: What is a flame?

Next time you think that you've been wronged / someone broke the rules, just use the goddamn Report button located at the bottom left of every post.
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