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View Poll Results: What will happen to Kabuto?
He'll resist to Orochimaru 17 22.08%
Orochimaru will take over his body 49 63.64%
He will die 11 14.29%
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:39 AM   #31
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Re: Orochimaru

can I repeat what I said in the old thread? coz it was closed right after I posted lol.

So, I say Kabuto's situation is the exact one as Yamato's. Kabuto injected Oro's DNA while Yamato was injected Shodaime's DNA. Now he was the sole surviver out of 60 people, and compatible with the cells. Why is it that it wasn't a great risk for kabuto to inject the DNA? He could have died. I suppose it's coz he's a medical ninja and knows a trick about it?

So the thing is kabuto's body should behave exactly as yamato's. But since oro doesn't have any kekkei genkai, then Kabuto should inherit some other jutsu... I guess?

And this contradicts the fact that oro was taking all his abilities when he was switching bodies, and it's also weird that Sasuke has the some abilities (healing one), coz the manga explained at some point that they are transfered through DNA. (yamato's case)

Kishi's logic is confusing here. Anyone has a better explanation for it?
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:56 PM   #32
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Re: Orochimaru

I chose option 1. I believe that since Orochimaru's soul is within Sasuke's mind (which means that he's done for since Sasuke's willpower is so strong), Kabuto would just have Orochimaru's powers (just like he stated) and not Orochimaru's persona. Kabuto's not only skilled, but smart enough that he'll manage to maintain his being while maintaining Orochimaru's life force and powers. The way that I see it is if Yamato could maintain the Shodaime's DNA while he was baby, then why can't a full-grown, powerful, smart and very skilled medical nin wouldn't be able to maintain the life force of someone who's kage level as well.
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Old 01-12-2008, 03:47 AM   #33
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I don't think that he is strong enough to resist Orochimaru, because that would mean he is too strong. Orochimaru was in a weakened state when Sasuke killed him and I don't think he's stronger than Sasuke but I could be wrong, plus with enough training I guess anything possible for the series.
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Old 01-12-2008, 11:50 AM   #34
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I don't think that he is strong enough to resist Orochimaru, because that would mean he is too strong. Orochimaru was in a weakened state when Sasuke killed him and I don't think he's stronger than Sasuke but I could be wrong, plus with enough training I guess anything possible for the series.
well, it might be that Oro's DNA is not the 100% of his original strength, probably just the remains, so it wouldn't be such a struggle for kabuto to fight.... only just a great struggle not an impossible one :P
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well, it might be that Oro's DNA is not the 100% of his original strength, probably just the remains, so it wouldn't be such a struggle for kabuto to fight.... only just a great struggle not an impossible one :P
That's true too it just depends on Kabuto's will power I guess.
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I think oro-kabuto will rise again as a new strong villain for new arc i.e. after akataski. So he will be the major villain as oro and kabuto combine.
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I think oro-kabuto will rise again as a new strong villain for new arc i.e. after akataski. So he will be the major villain as oro and kabuto combine.
i dont kow but ... that would be... the worst thing ever for the whole story in naruto. we all know oro's abilities and we all know kabuto's abilities, so it wouldn't anything new. sure, kabutorochimaru will be play a role in the future but not as a classical villain of naruto or konoha. i think he is after sasuke and it cant be help but i believe that kabutoro will be no match for sasuke even kabuto seems to be stronger than saske now. thats because he is somehow crazy. -.-

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Old 01-13-2008, 10:32 AM   #38
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i dont kow but ... that would be... the worst thing ever for the whole story in naruto. we all know oro's abilities and we all know kabuto's abilities, so it wouldn't anything new. sure, kabutorochimaru will be play a role in the future but not as a classical villain of naruto or konoha. i think he is after sasuke and it cant be help but i believe that kabutoro will be no match for sasuke even kabuto seems to be stronger than saske now.
don't be that sure... i mean maybe sasuke is weaker than itachi but he still has the sharingan and that gives him a major advantage while kabuto/oro doesn't have it... that's why oro wanted sasuke, for his sharingan...
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i dont kow but ... that would be... the worst thing ever for the whole story in naruto. we all know oro's abilities and we all know kabuto's abilities, so it wouldn't anything new. sure, kabutorochimaru will be play a role in the future but not as a classical villain of naruto or konoha. i think he is after sasuke and it cant be help but i believe that kabutoro will be no match for sasuke even kabuto seems to be stronger than saske now. thats because he is somehow crazy. -.-
I agree that he shouldn't be the main future villain, since we know so much less about aka.
But I remember Oro always had a thing with destroying Konoha, so if kabuto's mind is being overwhelmed by Oro's memories too, he might have an attempt on konoha and have to fight someone there. I mean, I know Kabuto doesn't have that intent but I find it weird that kishi is going to ignore the threat Oro always had on Konoha and move to other threats.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:42 AM   #40
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Re: Orochimaru

Orochimaru's character is awesome, he's been such a big part of the series. Would be cool if he came back, and maybe be on "our" side after learning of Jiraiya's death.
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Orochimaru's character is awesome, he's been such a big part of the series. Would be cool if he came back, and maybe be on "our" side after learning of Jiraiya's death.
nah, he won't change sides... i mean he won't choose any cus he ain't with akatsuki or konoha... he's alone... looking for answers bla bla bla...
it would be great if he'd come back cus he died in a way to pathetic way
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I mean only for joining forces against Akatsuki, since they are a threat to both. Jiraiya dying could trigger some feelings in Orochimaru as well, in the same way Naruto maybe could in Sasuke.
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I mean only for joining forces against Akatsuki, since they are a threat to both. Jiraiya dying could trigger some feelings in Orochimaru as well, in the same way Naruto maybe could in Sasuke.
I think he's a bit hopeless concerning feelings. Remember what he said about Kimimaro when he died. That he doesn't care about him anymore, and Kimimaro gave his life to help Oro. I know I shouldn't compare jiraya with Kimimaro, but I say oro should be an emotionless villain till the end. It fits his evilness perfectly.
And he won't join forces with the good guys to attack akatsuki. He'll just let them do the job. If you put the whole Konoha army on Aka at once, they'll win, so oro wouldn't worry them not being strong enough and needing help from him.
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I agree that he shouldn't be the main future villain, since we know so much less about aka.
But I remember Oro always had a thing with destroying Konoha, so if kabuto's mind is being overwhelmed by Oro's memories too, he might have an attempt on konoha and have to fight someone there. I mean, I know Kabuto doesn't have that intent but I find it weird that kishi is going to ignore the threat Oro always had on Konoha and move to other threats.

good point. i totally forgot about that. of course oro had a grudge against konoha and killed sarutobi. so maybe he will come back and kill tsunade. now he would surpass her easily with the medical abilities of kabuto. it could make sense but then again i really doubt that oro take over kabutos body in terms of control over his mind. you said it before... kabuto is almost in the same situation like yamato and yamato doesn't have the personality of shodaime (aktually we don't really know about shodaime's personality but i think in any case it isn't like yamatos.) so kabuto won't overwhelmed by orochimaru.
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good point. i totally forgot about that. of course oro had a grudge against konoha and killed sarutobi. so maybe he will come back and kill tsunade. now he would surpass her easily with the medical abilities of kabuto. it could make sense but then again i really doubt that oro take over kabutos body in terms of control over his mind. you said it before... kabuto is almost in the same situation like yamato and yamato doesn't have the personality of shodaime (aktually we don't really know about shodaime's personality but i think in any case it isn't like yamatos.) so kabuto won't overwhelmed by orochimaru.
that's exactly the point. Kishi created a whole confusion here and I wanna know if he's going to solve the case:
1. how is Oro's DNA going to act on Kabuto considering the fact we already know this happened before with yamato, so Kishi must take this into consideration.
2. how is Kishi going to solve Oro's grudge on Konoha which he insisted so much upon on Part One.

So Kishi needs to be very careful when he makes the result of Kabuchimaru, so he won't contradict with everything that's been stated before.
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