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Old 01-23-2008, 02:49 PM   #121
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Hey! >=[ I am not some bald, one toothed pervert! I'm a pervert with a full set of teeth, and a full head of hair!

For now we can discuss debate suggestions.
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:57 PM   #122
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Who was a better mentor: jiraya or Orochmaru ?
one idea =p !!!
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:01 PM   #123
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Hey! >=[ I am not some bald, one toothed pervert! I'm a pervert with a full set of teeth, and a full head of hair!

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Hmm, I forgot about the baldness and teeth, 8D. I was really referring to his wiseness, his pervertedness, his oldness (it's an inside joke, 8D), and his code name - Jackie Chun!

(I don't have a clue what the last one has to do with it, xD.)

As for a debating topic...hmmm. I can't think of one because my head's clouded by the newly discovered fact that Itachi wants Sasuke's eyes for the pleasure of power. It was a bit too funky for me, I guess.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:07 PM   #124
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we could screw our brains and try to figure out the answer at naruto's question during the training: kakashi explained the meaning of the 5 elements and the 2 (wood and ice) bloodline elements, and Naruto wanted to know about kagemane and medical ninjutsu and others.

And since I'm a noob, this probably has been discussed over and over again, or agreed not to be discussed due to insufficient information.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:10 PM   #125
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Who was a better mentor: jiraya or Orochmaru ?
I say Jiraiya is the better mentor since the majority of the people that he taught are very good ninjas.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:12 PM   #126
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I say Jiraiya is the better mentor since the majority of the people that he taught are very good ninjas.
well anko and sasuke were Oro's pupils and they turned out great.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:14 PM   #127
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Who was a better mentor: jiraya or Orochmaru ?
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I'll say Jiraiya. The only people I've seen Orochimaru train who are great ninja are Sasuke and Kimimaro. (I don't exactly think he trained Kabuto.) But in both cases, he only trained them in hopes of gaining something for himself.

Jiraiya, like Nexus said, has trained lots of great ninja, too. Like, a super-awesome kind of great. Let's see, there's Pein, Minato, and Naruto. Yeah, a very Uber kind of great. ;D
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:15 PM   #128
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I say Jiraiya is the better mentor since the majority of the people that he taught are very good ninjas.
except for naruto.
- oro stuffed Sasuke with some jutsus and weapons and skills and a that jutsu, and full control on CS2 and who knows how much more (plus the absorbed abilities after overtake)

- while jiraya did an oodama rasengan, some bit better use of kage bunshin, and a bit of genjutsu deffence, which doesn't even work.

anyway, we're not debating it now. XD
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well anko and sasuke were Oro's pupils and they turned out great.
Yes, that's true, but comparing Anko and Sasuke to the likes of Pain and Yondaime, there's no comparison (besides Sasuke maybe).
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anyway, we're not debating it now. XD
Oh. At least it relieved some of my boredom.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:22 PM   #131
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Oh. At least it relieved some of my boredom.
don't get me wrong, I'd start debating right away, but I thought we must wait for the boss's approval first :P
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except for naruto.
- oro stuffed Sasuke with some jutsus and weapons and skills and a that jutsu, and full control on CS2 and who knows how much more (plus the absorbed abilities after overtake)

- while jiraya did an oodama rasengan, some bit better use of kage bunshin, and a bit of genjutsu deffence, which doesn't even work.

i disagree completly.
Jiraya gave naruto exactly the type of training he need. Better control over the Kyubi's chakra laid the foundations for Naruto's great strenghts. With out better kyubi chakra control Naruto wouldn't be able to kage bushin train or improving the rasengan by infusing an element with it with out losing control of himself( yamato helps but still better control from Naruto's part makes it easier). Also Channeling the kyubi's chakra t enhance his own power is Naruto's ace in the hole, hopefully he improves in that area as well.

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i disagree completly.
Jiraya gave naruto exactly the type of training he need. Better control over the Kyubi's chakra laid the foundations for Naruto's great strenghts. With out better kyubi chakra control Naruto wouldn't be able to kage bushin train or improving the rasengan by infusing an element with it with out losing control of himself( yamato helps but still better control from Naruto's part makes it easier). Also Channeling the kyubi's chakra t enhance his own power is Naruto's ace in the hole, hopefully he improves in that area as well.
that's a very high kyuubi chakra control there if Naruto's new fighting style is get pissed and have kyuubi take control over him, and then need yamato to save his behind.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:33 PM   #134
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that's a very high kyuubi chakra control there if Naruto's new fighting style is get pissed and have kyuubi take control over him, and then need yamato to save his behind.
We've only seen Naruto lose control at 4 tails and obviously thats not what my post was about. The kyubi chakra enhances Naruto's rasengan, his kage bushin quantity range and it makes up for his lack of taijutsu ability by enhancing his speed and attack power. clearly jiraya did a fine job, not a perfect job but a fine one non-to less.
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We've only seen Naruto lose control at 4 tails and obviously thats not what my post was about. The kyubi chakra enhances Naruto's rasengan, his kage bushin quantity range and it makes up for his lack of taijutsu ability by enhancing his speed and attack power. clearly jiraya did a fine job, not a perfect job but a fine one non-to less.
yah, I agree to all of that and give full credit, but remember Naruto also went 2 tails after kicking deidara, and if kakashi hadn't stopped him he probably would have lost control again.
Jiraya didn't work on Naruto's short temper.
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