new type nature chakra?? - Page 3

kenneth20748 · 01-25-2008, 12:23 PM

Back when Kakazu was a young lad... The lighting is just negative elctrons going to and from the sky and ground. I think we can move on SMFox, we are in agreement. And Btw, I dont think Kishi would go farther than those 6 elements. Well with Kabuto and Oro, he's go them mixed with Chemistry and DNA. He's obviously got some knowledge of chemistry.

kenneth20748 · 01-25-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SMFox1987

I was just pointing out that that one sentence was incorrect and that it CAN technically be broken down (^.^)

I've just hit the edit with bold letters so I wont confuse anybody

I'MNOTCRAZY · 01-25-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SMFox1987

Well, I will say this, the theory of metal becoming an elemental fusion such as earth/water and water/wind is always possible. Keep in mind though, the third KAZEkage (not Sarutobi) did not have the ability to create metal or any such thing. Nor did his ability involve elemental manipulation as far as we know.

What his ability did was control the magnetism of metal, able to manipulate it to his will.
After witnessing the attacks of the previous host of Shukaku, he developed a similar method of fighting through little iron beads that resemble sand hence how it got the name "Iron Sand".

Basically, he would manipulate the magnetism of the many various beads of iron to form any weapon for any situation he could possible desire, having a near limitless potential for combat much like Gaara's sand and how he can form anything with it he desires through the powers Shukaku granted him.

No shit. I just said that. Did no one pay attention to what I said?

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That's what I just said ';,,;'

I do not think that metal by itself is one of those basic 6 elements as everyone has been suggesting.

Fire Wind Lightning Earth Water ?

Those are the 5 we know of as well as the one we don't. If it isn't already encompassed by the element of earth (ie metal is just a part of earth, that is my theory) then it could possibly be created through fire and earth as a fusion much like wood and ice. That's all I've been trying to say. I simply cannot see 'metal' as taking the place of that question mark in my list up above this paragraph.

no. that's what I said. You said what I said then she said it right after you. I said it first here. A long while ago. Metal is obviously fire/earth fusion. Metal, before manufacturing of chemicals, was created by taking ore, hematite, a ROCK, part of EARTH, for example, and heating it up with FIRE until it became iron. For the record, ore is NOT metal, nor can metal be extracted easily without HEAT or modern methods.

Eighty6ed · 01-25-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SMFox1987

Oh and actually, when you think about it, TECHNICALLY, those elements CAN be broken down. Fire doesn't burn without oxygen. Water is comprised of H2O, Lightning, well that depends on which form your talking about, but I believe theres electric as well as regular forms of plasma. But I don't remember that part of science all too well so I'm not very sure on what lightning could be broken down to. Basic electricity though is one form.

OK Bill Nye. Time to put you back in your closet now.

Eighty6ed · 01-25-2008, 09:32 PM

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Actually mr IMNOTCRAZY, you did not say that. You gave a generalization and I elaborated on it for you. Since all you said was that he had a potential bloodline etc etc, you did not explain the specifics of that nor how it related to the subject at hand.

As for the other bit, I already stated what I thought of the 6th element, as well as the possibility of fusion being earth and fire long before you or eighty did. And even then, Eighty still said it before you so bite me ;p

I did however have to repeat myself towards the end, which was the post you quoted me from when you said "I said that first!"

Dude, the "metal as the possible 6th element" argument was going on back when Jiraiya had the flashback about training the 3 kids (who cares what their names were anymore) before the Pein fight. Jiraiya had mentioned that Nagato having the Rin'Negan had the potential to control all 6 elements. And unless Im mistaken, didnt you admit the other day that you somehow didnt notice mention of the 6th element before then? So, Im afraid you might be further behind than you even realize. Maybe ;D

I'MNOTCRAZY · 01-25-2008, 10:56 PM

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True, but I was just referring to this thread alone, not the previous ones that I have learned of. I already know it's not an original idea. It's just that he said he said it first and no one on this thread was listening and that I was taking his ideas when, obviously I wasn't..and even if I were, as both you and I myself am now agreeing to, yes this was all said long ago. When this thread started I didn't know about the whole deal a while back, so I did some digging =)

For the "kinzokuton is a fusion of doton and katon" theory, that was mine long before this thread and long before we even knew Pein's name. I never said that it is the 6th element. I always thought it was void or something.

Hanz86 · 01-26-2008, 10:19 AM

Yare-yare..we got a lot of debate here, we will know as soon as kishi revealed about it..i'm looking forward to it....

kenneth20748 · 01-26-2008, 11:33 AM

I don't know, with all this talk about the Eternal MS, I'm afraid this question won't be answered until Pain fights again. But if I had to take a guess, someone mentioned Pain's ability to control the weather, maybe that's the 6th (if it's not water). But when it comes to stuff like this, some of the time it's either light or shadow (dark) and with so much shadow references, I wouldn't be surprised if it was shadow either.

Or maybe it the "unknown" element, as if it's known as the "unknown" element in Narutoworld

ThePRODIGY · 01-26-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brandoi

When did Sandaime manipulate metal? o_O

that;s why i said kazekage not hokage the 3rd kazekage is from the wind village

lan2cp · 01-26-2008, 06:52 PM

Wouldn't the normal chakra count as one of them? Like a non-elemental chakra?

Hanz86 · 01-28-2008, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lan2cp

Wouldn't the normal chakra count as one of them? Like a non-elemental chakra?

no..the chakra is just the energy which needed when to form a jutsu..

Hanz86 · 01-30-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SMFox1987

Indeed, there's chakra, and then theres the elemental variations that you turn it into. Technically it's all just the normal chakra, only it has been turned into an elemental variant through nature manipulation. If there are 6 elemental natures then I have to assume that regular chakra can't be considered one.

Brilliant..

lan2cp · 01-30-2008, 03:48 PM

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Brilliant..

OK i guess but it still doesnt answer what's the sixth element :P

KatrinaKatt · 02-01-2008, 09:44 PM

What if the 6th elemental-type is Demonic?

Is that Plausible? *shrug*

I figure if Pain can conjure up the statue thing to suck out bijuu from their hosts, then he must have some degree of control over it... I'm not necessarily saying he has demonic chakra though...

Ami-san · 02-01-2008, 10:08 PM

The only thing I can think of is metal.

01-25-2008, 12:23 PM	#31
kenneth20748 Chuunin Join Date: May 2007 Age: 25 Posts: 528 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: new type nature chakra?? Back when Kakazu was a young lad... The lighting is just negative elctrons going to and from the sky and ground. I think we can move on SMFox, we are in agreement. And Btw, I dont think Kishi would go farther than those 6 elements. Well with Kabuto and Oro, he's go them mixed with Chemistry and DNA. He's obviously got some knowledge of chemistry. __________________ Finally, a YuGiOh card that accurately describes some of the battles in Naruto

01-26-2008, 10:19 AM	#37
Hanz86 ANBU Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Malaysia Age: 27 Posts: 1,811 Thanks: 1 Thanked 36 Times in 36 Posts	Re: new type nature chakra?? Yare-yare..we got a lot of debate here, we will know as soon as kishi revealed about it..i'm looking forward to it....

01-26-2008, 11:33 AM	#38
kenneth20748 Chuunin Join Date: May 2007 Age: 25 Posts: 528 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: new type nature chakra?? I don't know, with all this talk about the Eternal MS, I'm afraid this question won't be answered until Pain fights again. But if I had to take a guess, someone mentioned Pain's ability to control the weather, maybe that's the 6th (if it's not water). But when it comes to stuff like this, some of the time it's either light or shadow (dark) and with so much shadow references, I wouldn't be surprised if it was shadow either. Or maybe it the "unknown" element, as if it's known as the "unknown" element in Narutoworld __________________ Finally, a YuGiOh card that accurately describes some of the battles in Naruto

01-26-2008, 06:52 PM	#40
lan2cp Chuunin Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Why you wanna know? Age: 26 Posts: 705 Thanks: 0 Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: new type nature chakra?? Wouldn't the normal chakra count as one of them? Like a non-elemental chakra? __________________ BeST P0ST EveR <---------

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KatrinaKatt ▫◊▫ Uchiha Kitty ▫◊▫ Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 431 Thanks: 125 Thanked 106 Times in 51 Posts	Re: new type nature chakra?? What if the 6th elemental-type is Demonic? Is that Plausible? shrug I figure if Pain can conjure up the statue thing to suck out bijuu from their hosts, then he must have some degree of control over it... I'm not necessarily saying he has demonic chakra though...

02-01-2008, 10:08 PM	#45
Ami-san S-Ranked Shinobi Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Konoha Age: 23 Posts: 2,857 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: new type nature chakra?? The only thing I can think of is metal. __________________ Member of the Akatsuki FC. Your soul is mine.....Now this is what I call powers....its overflowing... Co-owner of Gurren Lagann

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