there is no CS sign on sasuke's neck !! - Page 4

kenneth20748 · 04-08-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by trondah

Guys, you are forgetting about the sharingan. Did you not see how quickly Naruto was owned in the fight against Itachi's clone, and later against Itachi's bunshin in the forest? Last time Naruto met Sasuke, Sasuke _suppressed_ the kyuubi and made Naruto cry. No CS.

Unless Madara can do something to help Sasuke and his sudden drop in power, it ain't gonna matter. When Sasuke realizes that he can't depend on his CS anymore when he is in a pinch, he is gonna freak. I'm sorry, but he needs something to compensate for no CS. Sasuke's will to fight won't be the same caz his battle IQ and strategy almost always used the power of CS.

Shikamaru2007 · 04-08-2008, 09:18 AM

All of us has to know that .... Sasuke is a badass even without CS

lan2cp · 04-08-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by trondah

Guys, you are forgetting about the sharingan. Did you not see how quickly Naruto was owned in the fight against Itachi's clone, and later against Itachi's bunshin in the forest? Last time Naruto met Sasuke, Sasuke _suppressed_ the kyuubi and made Naruto cry. No CS.

But you are forgetting that the last time Naruto met sasuke he had just finished fighting Orochimaru and was weakened by the damage from the Kyuubi. All that happened before the Rasenshuriken training and he has shown to have some wind element jutsu after that.

I think that now Sasuke and Naruto are on equal grounds. Sasuke has sharingan and Naruto has the Kyuubi.

trondah · 04-08-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kenneth20748

When Sasuke realizes that he can't depend on his CS anymore when he is in a pinch, he is gonna freak.

That's a strange conclusion, seeing as the CS was forced on Sasuke. It was never his choice to have it, and he has shown disgust towards Orochimaru's ways of gaining power. The CS has negative sides as well, most likely he will get stronger now IMO.

kenneth20748 · 04-08-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by trondah

That's a strange conclusion, seeing as the CS was forced on Sasuke. It was never his choice to have it, and he has shown disgust towards Orochimaru's ways of gaining power. The CS has negative sides as well, most likely he will get stronger now IMO.

Touche, I agree about the no choice thing. However, Sasuke learned how to adopt and IMHO be a little dependent on his CS. He showed signs on not using it whole-heartedly against Deidara. I think the CS is a real extension of Sasuke and something that has been apart of you for so long (and by the way, you know as much as everyone else that Oro used his CS in training sessions even if it was just for him to learn how to do partial transformation) that he'll miss it a little bit. That being said, not being dependent on his own power has made him weak because he knew he could depend on CS to bail him out, via breaking out the Tsukuyomi. Sasuke will get better without it. Sasuke was already one of the elite ninjas of the rookie class w/o CS. He still is

trondah · 04-08-2008, 05:01 PM

CS is just another weapon/tool. You are saying because he used it, he is actually relying on it. That's speculation at best. From what we know and have seen from Sasuke, he is a genius, and as you say yourself he adapts. If he didn't have the CS he would have prepared for Tsukuyomi some other way. Or do you think he would have run straight into it and be defeated in 1 second like when he was a kid?

kenneth20748 · 04-08-2008, 10:28 PM

Well you saw yourself, he had to max out his CS just to get out of it. What are ure thoughts on this?

Harrada · 04-09-2008, 03:20 AM

I think Madara did something when he was resting...

trondah · 04-09-2008, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kenneth20748

Well you saw yourself, he had to max out his CS just to get out of it. What are ure thoughts on this?

Yes, CS was his tool to break Tsukuyomi. If he didn't have CS, he would have brought another tool, don't you think? Sasuke is not a retard, he remembers the previous times he's been Tsukuyomi'ed, and he would of course have taken measures to prevent it from doing him in.

uzumaki619 · 04-09-2008, 04:45 AM

right now sasuke is weak

kenneth20748 · 04-09-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by trondah

Yes, CS was his tool to break Tsukuyomi. If he didn't have CS, he would have brought another tool, don't you think? Sasuke is not a retard, he remembers the previous times he's been Tsukuyomi'ed, and he would of course have taken measures to prevent it from doing him in.

I agree with you on that. Cs is a tool, heavily used, but a tool none-the-less. Sasuke knew he was running into Tsukuyomi when he was going to face Itachi. We can establish that fact, I'm just not too sure there would be any other tools he could use. If he were to ask Oro during training, he would have said, "I don't know. I learned my lesson once. And I'm a Sannin." Or something to that nature. Oro is proven genius and his only counter would probably use Kawamari (that super substitution jutsu, i don't think I spelled it right). Sasuke would have to know when exactly he was going to use it in order to pull it off and get to safety. So I won't question the fact that he would have tried to find an answer, but I don't think it would be in his power (including Oro absorbed) to get out of it.

However...
Sasuke did think of Kirin...
Chances aren't likely, but with Sasuke, he can make the impossible, possible

trondah · 04-09-2008, 10:35 AM

If he didn't have a way to overcome it, he would never have faced Itachi. Even Naruto would understand that it would be a bad idea

kenneth20748 · 04-09-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by trondah

If he didn't have a way to overcome it, he would never have faced Itachi. Even Naruto would understand that it would be a bad idea

You know what? That was low, using Naruto like that. But ure right.

trondah · 04-09-2008, 03:27 PM

Yeah, that was a bit under the belt sorry

But I made my point!

videosk8er · 04-11-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Uchiha_Kina

Looks like Oro is really dead and the CS goes with him. Now maybe Naruto and him are more equal.

Oro isn't dead half of him is sealed in the sword and the other half is in kabuto

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