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Old 04-18-2008, 04:12 AM   #1
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Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshuriken?

Remember how in in the Kakashi Gaiden when Kakashi first introduced the chidori, and Minato told him afterwards not to use that move again since it is too focused on one point, leaving him vulnerable attacks.. yet he still continued to use it till this day.

That reminds me how after Tsunade examined kakuzus body and she tells kakashi to forbid naruto from using the rasenshuriken as it is damaging to the user and it can potentially cripple him to the point where he will not be able to use chakra again... kakashi was about to tell naruto not to use the rasenshuriken while they were at that scene where they were eating ramen but he held back.. do you think there is a connection between the two separate occasions? I would think Kakashi felt the same way about how a superior ninja telling you not to use a move that you created yourself and took that into consideration before he passed on Tsunade's message.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:44 AM   #2
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

kakashi was told not to use the chidori anymore because he had no way of reading his opponents counter-attacks when he lunged himself towards them, thus leaving himself heavily open to be countered... he was told this BEFORE he got the sharingan from obito.. once he received his sharingan his technique became complete due to the ability of reading movement's from the sharingan.. that would be the difference between the two..
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

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Remember how in in the Kakashi Gaiden when Kakashi first introduced the chidori, and Minato told him afterwards not to use that move again since it is too focused on one point, leaving him vulnerable attacks.. yet he still continued to use it till this day.

Kakashi may feel some sort of empathy for Naruto and his RS problems. However, Kakashi started to use Chidori because Obitos' Sharingan completed it, taking it off the banned list. RS still isn't completed.

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Old 04-18-2008, 04:50 AM   #4
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

It's far from completed, first he needs to find a way to use it without hurting himself, then he needs a way to land it (hirashin?). That would make him almost invincible though.
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Old 04-18-2008, 05:51 AM   #5
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

Yeah ... I agree with you
Kakashi saw himself in Naruto when he was told not to use his ultimate unique attak he developed by his own ... he felt so sad for him that he decided not to tell him so he won't break Naruto's confidence in RS ....
Maybe he will try to find a way for naruto to get over the disadvantages of RS ... to make it up for him ...
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

but naruto with his kage bunshin is not vulnerable.i mean you have to gess which one is real first and also i think kakashi knew that naruto wouldnt listen him anyway ( naruto told sakura that he knows the best how his body works)
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Old 04-18-2008, 07:50 AM   #7
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

Naruto didn't even know that his kage bunshin reflects his knowledge and experience on the real body .... Kakashi made it clear to him
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

Kakashi just knew that Naruto wouldnt listen by Nruto's statement to him. I'm sure he felt empathy, especially considering why Naruto wanted to learn a stronger jutsu in the first place, but even Sakura knew that when Naruto's mind is made up, there is no stopping him. Tsunade knows as well.
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

I agree with you in that ...
But , the reason of Kakashi learning Chidori is unknown .... and the reason of Naruto learning a stronger Jutsu is known for all of us .....
Kakashi may didn't tell him to never use RS again because he didn't want to let him down and make him give up on his goal ....
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:42 PM   #10
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

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I agree with you in that ...
But , the reason of Kakashi learning Chidori is unknown .... and the reason of Naruto learning a stronger Jutsu is known for all of us .....
Kakashi may didn't tell him to never use RS again because he didn't want to let him down and make him give up on his goal ....

I could just picture Naruto's reaction to finding out about the effects of using the rasenshuriken...which yes...goes to the point of where Kakashi's empathy is based...the thing is with Naruto being as headstrong as he is, NOONE can convince him otherwise not to use the technique...so their only choice is to let him continue to train n develop it to it's completion.
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

Kakashi did try he said"naruto your new jutsu is" and he was cut off by naruto who said"kakashi sensei don't worry i know my body better then anyone" indicating that he will use it again. I mean we all know naruto isn't the one to give a shit about orders.
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:31 PM   #12
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

What if a kagebunshin uses the RS? cause we already saw that they can use it in the battle with kakuzu
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What if a kagebunshin uses the RS? cause we already saw that they can use it in the battle with kakuzu
The Kage Bunshin would vanish before the full impact of the RasenShurikan kicks in. It would be waste of time, energy, and then Naruto would have to come up with an even better plan since the enemy will be more on guard.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:17 PM   #14
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

I am not really sure about the kage bushin not beeing able to whitstand the RasenShuriken. If u see chapter 341, Naruto tricks Kakuzu with a kage bushin holding it and Naruto appears behind him. But it may be that the kage bushin can only whitstand the technique for some time. Like only for 10 seconds or so.
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Re: Did anyone notice how kakashi held back telling naruto not to use the rasenshurik

No kage bushin isn't the answer not unless he plans on using 2 like against yurra but that wold mean he needs someone to hold the guy down it would be a hell of a plan and yes he could pull it off but it would be pretty hard.
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