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Old 07-11-2008, 07:34 AM   #16
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I think there will be a transition as Naruto moves from Konoha to the Mountain to train. Pain may actually get there first, unless Naruto can warp there or something because he's going through dimensions like I think.

I'm starting to think more and more that Tsunade is going to bite it . . . Pain is going to want to torture ot get the information out of someone as to where Naruto went, and since right now Sakura seems more concerned about her MAster's well being then her freind . . .

Also there is the revenge angle with Naruto. How long will he hold on to that? I'm starting to realize it may just not be in Sakura's character to do or say anything because she's afraid - which means this won't get adressed in Naruto until after he comes back to train . .

But if he stays on this path, he'll end up just like Sasuke, and surely Sakura sees that . . .
He wouldn't end up just like Sasuke, because he would try to avenge his master without harming those that are important to him. There is a difference between avenging at all costs, which includes back stabbing and becoming a traitor, and avenging one's memory as well as protecting those whome you care about. Naruto is using this as a goal to become stronger to protect those he loves, just as much as how Jiraiya died trying to protect his people. Just because you plan on avenging someone doesn't mean that you'll turn evil, nor does it mean that you have to change your way of being.
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He wouldn't end up just like Sasuke, because he would try to avenge his master without harming those that are important to him. There is a difference between avenging at all costs, which includes back stabbing and becoming a traitor, and avenging one's memory as well as protecting those whome you care about. Naruto is using this as a goal to become stronger to protect those he loves, just as much as how Jiraiya died trying to protect his people. Just because you plan on avenging someone doesn't mean that you'll turn evil, nor does it mean that you have to change your way of being.
Agree. Naruto's cause is much more justified. There is no way Naruto will become like Sasuke. They're completely different in terms of ideals, views, and personalities. Naruto is strongest when he is protecting those he care for. He wants to be Hokage, so its likely he will eventually develop a heart for all those in the village. It is fact that he can make friends fast. Naruto's only flaw is that his goals are quite unrealistic and he's too naive. He's a bit of a child, but with the death of Jiraiya and his training to come, he'll indeed go through a change.

But his change will be his progression into adulthood. Naruto may no longer be as naive and soft hearted as he use to be, but he'll definately retain his views and goals in mind. Naruto will be able to back up his talk and also be able to stop dreaming and start living his reality. He'll probably still be a little goofy, but he'll be mature, kind of like Minato, showing forms of silliness, while at the same time demonstrating tactical thinking, of course Naruto won't be on the level of the 4th Hokage in terms of thinking prowness.

Sasuke also grew into adulthood, but his type of adult is quite problematic and unhealthy for comrades and those who fight for what they believe in, even if Sasuke is wrong. Sasuke fights for himself. Team Falcon and Akatuski are only on his side because he believes they'll lead him to his goal. Basically mutual gain, so as long as they work with him, he'll keep up his end of the bargain. Once its all over, he breaks away, as there is no direct connection.
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:04 AM   #18
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At first, I expected Naruto to leave pretty quickly without time for long goodbyes before Pein comes, leaving Konoha to deal with him. When he sees Naruto is gone, there may be some loss for the sake of intelligence information but Konoha might have some time.

But because the stupid toad didn't figure out the code, it could be they stay the week until the results come in. Pein comes just before the results come in. Naruto gets a glance of what he is up against before he is whisked away. Because so much of the story is coming into place now, I am wondering if there will be a time skip for Naruto’s training or if he will become a toad sage super fast because of his clones. I was hoping for a time skip so we could see them a little older. Could be Naruto doesn't complete his toad training before he returns...

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Old 07-11-2008, 11:16 AM   #19
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I think this chapter will be the start of the next big events "hopefully". Naruto leaving and Team Falcon comming in contact with the Eight Tails.
Dude you need to write this magna. You come up with some of the best ideas. It would be awsome if they kinda hinted about Naruto's family, and the fight between Hawk and 8 tails would be awsome.
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Naruto's ideas are what will make him a great Hokage. Naruto has a heart of steel and he believes in friendships, peace, and happiness. On the other hand he likes competition and wants to be the best. He changes hearts this is why he will be a great hokage. Sasuke on the other hand watch his family as they lay dead in the streets for a kid his age he grew up in turmoil. His beliefs are different. Hate, vengeance, and mistrust plague his thoughts and memories and that is why he will never be a peace. naruto will rescue sasuke from these negative feelings in the end but it will come with a price.

With that being said my prediction for the next chapter is that we will see naruto leave for sage mountain and pain in route to the leaf village. I hate to say it but knowing kishi...we will only see team falcon catch up to the 8 tails and the fight begins...
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If Sasuke just takes the eight tales with no effort, it will be disappointing. I guess his sharingan can suppress the bijuu so it could possibly happen. But I am hoping for an interesting battle. The eight tale should go into his form at some point in the battle but I bet it is nothing as exciting as Naruto was as a four-tail. Well, it really can't be, can it.
Anyway, they need the eight tale first and Akatsuki needs to be doing something while Naruto is training. Maybe Sasuke will create an interesting diversion.
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Re: Naruto 409 Predictions

They are in the land of lightning right? so isn't it possible sasuke's lightning attacks are more powerful making this fight even easier for him?...Just a thought.

I hope naruto is gone for more than a week so that he grows up and changes. I'm sick of the way he is. I'd rather the manga be called sasuke as it is...
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They are in the land of lightning right? so isn't it possible sasuke's lightning attacks are more powerful making this fight even easier for him?...Just a thought.

I hope naruto is gone for more than a week so that he grows up and changes. I'm sick of the way he is. I'd rather the manga be called sasuke as it is...
no..it just one of the 5 great country..nothing related with boosting the Raiton jutsu...konoha is Fire Country, but still nothing happen with Katon User..
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Re: Naruto 409 Predictions

Shopnshave, I didn't mean just stay a week with the toads, I meant at Konoha if you are referring to my above comment five back. That said, it is so typical of these types of stories to have that special training interrupted too soon because the enemy evokes some kind of threat or attack. I can't see Naruto staying long if Akatsuki is back home wreaking havoc. Some distraction needs to be put into place to buy some. A quick stay with the toads would be a very unsatisfying read for me.
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Shopnshave, I didn't mean just stay a week with the toads, I meant at Konoha if you are referring to my above comment five back. That said, it is so typical of these types of stories to have that special training interrupted too soon because the enemy evokes some kind of threat or attack. I can't see Naruto staying long if Akatsuki is back home wreaking havoc. Some distraction needs to be put into place to buy some. A quick stay with the toads would be a very unsatisfying read for me.
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I see what you mean and things like that happen all the time. I think that someone will entervien as pain comes to konaha. Don't know who it will be but i think someone will. Maybe team gai.
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I see what you mean and things like that happen all the time. I think that someone will entervien as pain comes to konaha. Don't know who it will be but i think someone will. Maybe team gai.
i think..Tsunade herself will fight Pain..perhaps, she able to figured out Pain secret at the right time and managed to kill PAIN..but she died along with him..
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I can that happening. I can also see kakashi fighting him with his sharigan.
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At first, I expected Naruto to leave pretty quickly without time for long goodbyes before Pein comes, leaving Konoha to deal with him. When he sees Naruto is gone, there may be some loss for the sake of intelligence information but Konoha might have some time.

But because the stupid toad didn't figure out the code, it could be they stay the week until the results come in. Pein comes just before the results come in. Naruto gets a glance of what he is up against before he is whisked away. Because so much of the story is coming into place now, I am wondering if there will be a time skip for Naruto’s training or if he will become a toad sage super fast because of his clones. I was hoping for a time skip so we could see them a little older. Could be Naruto doesn't complete his toad training before he returns...
I like these ideas. The timeframe for the week could set the stage for a number of things, but to have it just be the length of time Naruto trains doesn't seem right, especially since it centers more around the autopsy. So the story can either skip a week as Naruto prepares, or it can cover the eight tail fight and build more conflict between Naruto and Sakura in that time.

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Agree. Naruto's cause is much more justified. There is no way Naruto will become like Sasuke. They're completely different in terms of ideals, views, and personalities. Naruto is strongest when he is protecting those he care for. He wants to be Hokage, so its likely he will eventually develop a heart for all those in the village. It is fact that he can make friends fast. Naruto's only flaw is that his goals are quite unrealistic and he's too naive. He's a bit of a child, but with the death of Jiraiya and his training to come, he'll indeed go through a change.

But his change will be his progression into adulthood. Naruto may no longer be as naive and soft hearted as he use to be, but he'll definately retain his views and goals in mind. Naruto will be able to back up his talk and also be able to stop dreaming and start living his reality. He'll probably still be a little goofy, but he'll be mature, kind of like Minato, showing forms of silliness, while at the same time demonstrating tactical thinking, of course Naruto won't be on the level of the 4th Hokage in terms of thinking prowness.

Sasuke also grew into adulthood, but his type of adult is quite problematic and unhealthy for comrades and those who fight for what they believe in, even if Sasuke is wrong. Sasuke fights for himself. Team Falcon and Akatuski are only on his side because he believes they'll lead him to his goal. Basically mutual gain, so as long as they work with him, he'll keep up his end of the bargain. Once its all over, he breaks away, as there is no direct connection.
Woah woah guys . . I didn't need that much convincing, especially since I agree.

I was just saying it would be foremost in Sakura's FEARS. Which is important.
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Guys Ive been reading your posts for a while and let me say that you guys are genius! Changing the subject a bit, I have been reading a lot of message boards where there have been discussions as to who the new body pain has aquired. A lot of peeps say it is just a new body, but is it possible he chose this specific body for a reason. As Jariaya lay dying he realize he knew these shinobi he was fighting. The point I'm trying to make after reading all these boards is that I think pain might have a strategy to his trip to the leaf. As mentioned somewhere he had not attacked the leaf or even fathomed going there by himself or with conan before, yet all of a sudden he is ready and strong enough while he wasn't before? There has to be something behind this new body. wild card? Please don't attack me! I'm asking for your thoughts..might it be Naruto's mom? Once more this is something that i conjured up since kishi is twisted like this in a way. Your thoughts?
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Guys Ive been reading your posts for a while and let me say that you guys are genius! Changing the subject a bit, I have been reading a lot of message boards where there have been discussions as to who the new body pain has aquired. A lot of peeps say it is just a new body, but is it possible he chose this specific body for a reason. As Jariaya lay dying he realize he knew these shinobi he was fighting. The point I'm trying to make after reading all these boards is that I think pain might have a strategy to his trip to the leaf. As mentioned somewhere he had not attacked the leaf or even fathomed going there by himself or with conan before, yet all of a sudden he is ready and strong enough while he wasn't before? There has to be something behind this new body. wild card? Please don't attack me! I'm asking for your thoughts..might it be Naruto's mom? Once more this is something that i conjured up since kishi is twisted like this in a way. Your thoughts?
i think..the new body just a replacement for the dead Pain..perhaps, she also specialist in Summon Jutsu since the dead one also specialist in that area..
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