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Old 08-16-2008, 09:14 PM   #1
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Juugo losing control? Reaching a higher level of power.

Okay we've noticed that Juugo has remained relatively calm over the past dozens chapters or so, only going out of control when Sasuke rested after his battle with Orochimaru. From a few chapters back, Juugo remarked that due to Sasuke's sharingan, he believes he can remain in control. But don't you think its time for Juugo snap once more?

Right now Juugo is fighting decent co-op wise, getting in a strong punch against the Eight Tails and delivering untold damage upon the area.lol But what we are seeing is not his true strength. What we see now is probably only Juugo's partial transformations, and he may still be monitored by Sasuke's sharingan.

But don't you think that due to the stress of battle, and the need of self-preservation from the Eight Tails, Juugo may unleash his full might and go berserk? Unlike Kimmimaro, Juugo's original source of strength is the cursed power. With that being said, Juugo's source is most likely that much more pure, reason being that he loses complete control and becomes a raging monster destroying anyone and everything in his path, or at least attempting to.

We've never seen the cursed power in its fullest, we've seen Juugo fight Suigetsu partially transformed, but we've never seen the Juugo the prisoners were afraid of so to speak or the powerful man Sasuke gone so far to grasp. What I'm saying is that Juugo's unleashed form may be a little something that helps Falcon stay on par with the Eight Tails' incredible might. Sasuke may even be able to control and guide Juugo's beastly form, as Sasuke placed a genjutsu on the stubborn, yet powerful Manda.

Heck Sasuke may even be the one to unlock Juugo's potential as Juugo stated that only Kimmimaro was able to control his actions through strength, so maybe that's the case.

So basically what do you think of Juugo going all out, and how much of a help or hurt may this cause to Team Falcon if Sasuke really can't control him?
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Old 08-17-2008, 01:15 AM   #2
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Re: Juugo losing control? Reaching a higher level of power.

Nice idea. I'd like to see juugo go super saiyan or w/e he does with that cursed seal of his.
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Re: Juugo losing control? Reaching a higher level of power.

I think that Juugo will go all out and use ability, the CS (but not really), only ome te amd thelat will be the battles that he dies. I also think he will start to lose control against the Hachibi, but Sasuke will be able to surpress his murderous intent.
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Re: Juugo losing control? Reaching a higher level of power.

I kind of think he's more powerful when in control as Juugo is able to think properly during a battle. While in berserker mode he has no real control over his actions only the thrust for blood. He's able to do partial transformations & even boost his strength using the wind element when relaxed. But I guess it's possible that he'd be stronger as a berserker only time will tell.
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I think that Juugo will go all out and use ability, the CS (but not really), only ome te amd thelat will be the battles that he dies. I also think he will start to lose control against the Hachibi, but Sasuke will be able to surpress his murderous intent.
Sasuke can, by why should he if its beneficial. Remember what Suigetsu said? He said to defeat him, they'll have to fight to kill and then they'll be able to restrain the Eight Tails. Sasuke can always calm Juugo down aftewards. But its possible that Juugo may give his life to fight like a beast and help drop the Eight Tails. While Juugo's strength is used to parry the Eight Tails, setting Suigetsu and Sasuke up for the counter.

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I kind of think he's more powerful when in control as Juugo is able to think properly during a battle. While in berserker mode he has no real control over his actions only the thrust for blood. He's able to do partial transformations & even boost his strength using the wind element when relaxed. But I guess it's possible that he'd be stronger as a berserker only time will tell.
Well it might even be possible that Juugo keeps some sense of humanity while craving the death of the Eight Tails (although Sasuke may have to calm him down). Who knows, Sasuke and Suigetsu's desire to fight might keep Juugo's personaility stable while at the same time, he'll be granted with unimaginable strength. Much like how Kimmimaro kept Juugo is control I would assume. Although Juugo as a beast is focussed on killing, he only kills his targets. Remember Juugo questioned whether a girl or a boy would be killed, and since Sasuke popped up, and his choice was a boy, he tried to kill him. Perhaps that's a small amount of rationality Juugo has in his beastly forms. Only killing his targets instead of outside forces, unless threatened.
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Re: Juugo losing control? Reaching a higher level of power.

I think....
CS level 2 is the final transformation...nothing more...Since CS is original Juugo ability, i bet its power is stronger than anyone in CS lvl2 state..
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Re: Juugo losing control? Reaching a higher level of power.

Its probably like when Naruto goes 3 tails, in the sense that he will be stronger physically but mentally he won't be thinking straight. So it could be beneficial, but Juugo may not be able to control himself and could possibly injure a member of Hawk. And I don't think Sasuke would want to take that chance.
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Re: Juugo losing control? Reaching a higher level of power.

I believe it's better this way since when he goes berserk he attacks anyone say they are fighting the 8 tailed demon and he loses control and starts to go after karin, sasuke and suigetsu would have to control him and calm him down.

As it stands right now they will need something from their ass to win the 8 tailed demon rofll and distractions such as him losing control is not needed in such a big moment.

Even with 4 they are barely managing and still can't knock him down, they need all 4 to win and something out their ass lol cause we know it will happen.

FYI he can't use the wind element don't post me your jet pictures or sauske throwing those are his transformations ability, as for sasuke flying how about you take a heavy object and throw it really hard and video tape it let's see the wind or better yet air substance around lol. can you now use the wind element to.
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Re: Juugo losing control? Reaching a higher level of power.

Good stuff TSO. I was actually thinking along the same lines save for the next step. Juugo's fully transformed state I believe we will see in this battle as he goes fully crazy. We have seen his partial transformation take three different arm forms right now. I honestly think that Sasuke is still using some of his ability to keep Juugo in control of his own ability. But I have a feeling that as the 8 tails transforms, Juugo will then transform as Sasuke may need to heal again. And that is when we will see a battle between beast before Suke returns to the battle.
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Juugo is nothing more that a Ninja rip off of The Juggernaut
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Re: Juugo losing control? Reaching a higher level of power.

i dont think Sasuke restrained juugo at all during his fight with the 8 tails. I think Juugo transformed then just went back to normal because he got his ass handed to him like he did when he tried fighting Sasuke before.

I mean in the manga you saw him reverting back to his normal self from the cursed seal form, so its only to assume that he had transformed beforehand. Why would he just partially transform half of his body? thats just retarded =\


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i dont think Sasuke restrained juugo at all during his fight with the 8 tails. I think Juugo transformed then just went back to normal because he got his ass handed to him like he did when he tried fighting Sasuke before.
But that's only partial right?

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I mean in the manga you saw him reverting back to his normal self from the cursed seal form, so its only to assume that he had transformed beforehand. Why would he just partially transform half of his body? thats just retarded =\
Because he's afraid of losing control? So he only use a portion of his power because that's the amount he can control without going beastly. I kind of refuse to believe that what we've seen is all he has. The cursed seal states of other shinobi were way more monstrous and ugly looking. Juugo has to be holding back, the cursed blood runs stronger in him than anyone possible.

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I believe it's better this way since when he goes berserk he attacks anyone say they are fighting the 8 tailed demon and he loses control and starts to go after karin, sasuke and suigetsu would have to control him and calm him down.
All Sasuke has to do is glance at him, who's to say Sasuke can't force him in the direction of the Eight Tails.

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Since CS is original Juugo ability, i bet its power is stronger than anyone in CS lvl2 state..
That's what I'm banking on as well. It should be stronger than what we've seen from imitators.
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juugo's not really a main or even a decent character in Naruto, Kishi said himself he doesn't want to develope anyone from hawk(hebi) any further (although this doesn't mean he wont) i doubt juugo will be the huge badass to bag the 8 tailed demon. That just seems way to lame imho.

I think sasuke will go super saiyan and do it like he usually does =\
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^That's true, but Kishi stated that he can't let them idle by, so he's developing something for them. I know its likely Falcon won't last long, but at least it would be good if Juugo goes out in style. I mean Juugo has an interesting connection to past Naruto characters by the cursed seal... That makes him a little important.
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Hrrmmm cry much? Yes it's the wind element until proven otherwise. It's quite similar to Zaku's wind tunnels. Juugo's initial hit didn't move 8-Bi Ali. That is until sound effects of viberations happened around the holes in his arm quickly followed by large gust of wind exiting the same holes that were given there own panel. I mean really think for a moment why does his transformed hands have giant wholes in them that seem to shoot off strong wind gust? It's pretty obvious what's happening there you should pay more attention to the manga.
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