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Old 09-05-2008, 08:24 AM   #1
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Post What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

only normal Sharingan only. How powerful would be then in comparison to other clans and so forth? Could Sasuke Uchiha beat Naruto without Mangekyou Sharingan considering what level Naruto is at. Also would Madara, Itachi be that strong as say Jiraiya, or Asuma or Guy, all I mean decent top rank fighters.

In the end I am trying to say, isn't it the Sharingan what makes a Uchiha really powerful, so basicly without it they are low-med range level fighters.

It seems they would get trashed without their Sharingan but thats only my opinion. But then again am I right to say?

Doesn't it seems Sharingan is a given so you already become powerful in comparison to someone say like Naruto who has to work for it.

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Old 09-05-2008, 08:31 AM   #2
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

Well, if they didn't have the MS, the manga would have been much more balanced and more fun.

Also, the regular Sharingan is underrated. It is a very powerful weapon as well. But due to MS, everyone forgets about it.
The MS is overpowered. It is making the regular ninja fights look like a Gennin fight, no matter how strong the shinobi who fight are. And that fucking sucks.

The worst thing is that it could keep Kyuubi as a pet, which I dislike.
But they have it, so there you go.

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Old 09-05-2008, 08:44 AM   #3
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

All the shinobi have their varying skills, bloodlines etc. It just so happens the Uchiha have a powerful one.
Everyone should be very glad there is now only two of them. Perhaps the reasoning behind the slaughter of the clan was not completely unfounded, or even unjustified. On all accounts, from Itachi, leaving the clan to fester and grow with malice would have seen the destruction of the Leaf.

oh back on topic; the sharingan is their special skill, and they can't be separated from it. Shinobi have to put up with it, and it will cause them to get smarter and stronger, is all.
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:31 AM   #4
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

All Uchiha's naturally have more chakra than average shinobi and likely stronger bodies considering the comments Itachi made to Kakashi, and the comments about Uchiha chakra that Madara made to Sasuke. Sharingan alone allows the user to see your movements before u make them, and copy almost any jutsu. Just that alone can make an Uchiha a "professor" like Sarutobi was, but with even more chakra.

Uchiha's were already great enough to be a challenge to Senju, even before Madara and his brother got MS. I doubt that many Uchihas had EMS, since it seemed to be frowned upon during Itachi's, and even his father's generation, yet they were still feared. Chiyo knew nothing about MS, but even she knew that at least 2 ninja needed to face an Uchiha at once in order to have a chance of winning. Sharingan itself is the shit. MS just makes them more godly, but even without it, they were feared and respected by many in the shinobi world
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

They will be equal with other Clans .... that's all .
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:50 AM   #6
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

Yeah Sharingan is what makes them powerful they dont have to work , but in thier defence they do have to train hard as a mafucka to accell before they awaken there eyes and they have to be in a situation to allow them to do so

but like ^ he said they would be regular shinobi
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:15 PM   #7
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

Well, I believe the Uchihas would be the strongest or best, even in the present time. The Hyuugas would be right after them imo.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:27 PM   #8
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

if they didnt then they would still be very strong since not many had mks anyway

they would defo be under the senju clan but still above hyuga

but sasuke would still beat naruto since sasukes a genius whereas naruto needs the simplest things explained to him like 3 times
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:28 PM   #9
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

Ok look.

How often did you hear talk of Mangekyou Sharingan before Itachi stepped into the picture? Never. Wonder why? MS, most likely, was incredibly rare among the Uchiha. Even the normal sharingan needs to be unlocked, and not every Uchiha got it. So i'd imagein, of the Uchiha who DID get the sharingan, the 3 commas was enough to kick major ass. If you compare the 1, 2, and 3 comma'd sharingan to cake...

1 comma is a cupcake: Nice to have and you get excited when you get it, but you can buy them at any grocery store, you just need the gas to get there. Apparently, some Uchiha's didn't have cars >.>

2 commas is like hommeade cupcakes: After weeks of nagging, your mom finally decides to make cupcakes. Fresh out of the oven, you snatch one up, put icing on it, and it's delicious. The rare event is one most satisfying and to be remembered.

3 commas is like someone randomly showing up at your door with a birthday cake and yelling "SURPISE!!" I mean, come on. Birthday cakes happen so seldomly that it's TOTALLY worth celebrating.

Then there's MS and EMS.

MS Is like having two birthday cakes fused into one via the fusion dance. It's taste is so great it's like eating heaven. This cake is legendary and only few ever get to taste its tastetacular goodness, but for some reason it makes you blind...I dunno.

EMS Is like that same fused cake from before...but you're NOT going blind, and it's delicious goodness happens every day, making you really fat.


Now, if you're asking yourself, "Why the flaming f*ck is this dood comparing the sharingan to cake?" The answer is simple...

I'm hungry.

But in any event: Normal sharingan is just as badass or more so than the byakugan, which, as far as we know, only has one level of power.

To conclude...I'm gonna go get some cake, later.
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

I dont think they would be Med or Regular Shinobi.

The Sharringan is Mega OP even without MS/PMS.

They can still use it to cast Genjitsu which mess most ppls heads in hard.

Not to mention they are generally Faster with bigger Chakra pools.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:40 PM   #11
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

I think i must have missed this whole part about uchuhas having bigger chakra pools that everyone keeps aluding to...could someone please show me a manga reference to this?

It'd be greatly appreciated.
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

thats un true sasuke doesnt have much chakra in my opinion ...before shippuden sasuke usually tires out quicky partly due to curse seal also he could only use 2 chidoris

ithink ppl think uchiha have more chkara is coz kakashi doesnt cant use the eye for long whereas uchiha can

but that is because kakashi doesnt have the necessary blood to control sharingan for loonger+ he has sharingan 24/7 + kakashi generally have lower chakra
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Re: What if the Uchiha did not have Mangekyou Sharingan but ...?

All clans with bloodline limits has a normal chakra pool, and it is tomoe, not COMMA. And sarotobi is of the senju clan. The senju clan members were strongest ALONG with Uchiha. But remember this, maybe the senju's rise was nature's way of balancing the rise of this unnatural gene 'expression'. Saratobi was no slouch, 'god of ninja'. Senju as we know now means 'nature', and the members of that clan had a more profound affinity, or groupings of then. First, second, look at those two, incredibly large chakra and very high level elemental afinities.
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All clans with bloodline limits has a normal chakra pool, and it is tomoe, not COMMA. And sarotobi is of the senju clan. The senju clan members were strongest ALONG with Uchiha. But remember this, maybe the senju's rise was nature's way of balancing the rise of this unnatural gene 'expression'. Saratobi was no slouch, 'god of ninja'. Senju as we know now means 'nature', and the members of that clan had a more profound affinity, or groupings of then. First, second, look at those two, incredibly large chakra and very high level elemental afinities.
Sarutobi was not of the senju clan he was just trained by the first two kages that is their connection.
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