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Old 09-26-2008, 05:45 PM   #1
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Post Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

...Or is it the same thing called differently. Any guesses? Does anyone feel the pa (frog) will teach something from Sage mode that he did not teach Jiraiya (since he could not fully master it).

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Old 09-26-2008, 09:21 PM   #2
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

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...Or is it the same thing called differently. Any guesses? Does anyone feel the pa (frog) will teach something from Sage mode that he did not teach Jiraiya (since he could not fully master it).
It's the same exact thing. It is just another name for it.
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:25 PM   #3
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

yeah jiraya never knew the frog style jutsu that is used once in Sage Mode
and so you know the only reason Jman called his hermit mode is because of his appearance in sage mode and the fact that he is called the Toad Hermit also
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:22 PM   #4
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

Well hopefully since naruto has surpassed j-man, he will learn something more for his success. He deserves it because he has mastered it so well. I'm really interested in how it will effect his techniques and if it has some kind of side effect maybe similar to mangekyou sharing. I know they are completely un-related but both are sources of great power. You never know.
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

well i think he will learn how to fight with it not really certaint techniques. haha they called it frog fu so maybe just like kung fu it has different styles like kung fu has tiger or snake.
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

Nope no difference you see the reason why theres two names is due to translations. The japanese term is Sennin and it can be translated in english as Hermit or Sage. Ya Dig!! As far as learning something that jiraiya didnt, most likely not cause jiraiya also knew frog fu.
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:53 AM   #7
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

Ofcorz he will learn awesome jutsu's J-Man didnt. You have to reach Naruto's level of Nature Manipulation to be able to learn Sage techniques.
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:00 AM   #8
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

^Nothing has been mentioned about having to know nature manipulation in order to learn senjutsu. It is a prerequisite but it is a plus to know.
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

There isn't a difference is there? Why would it be a different thing... isn't that a little weird.
The toads wouldn't teach Jiraiya different techniques and then Naruto something else. I do understand there may be varying types of jutsu to be taugh, but they would all based in Senjutsu.
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

The Only difference is the Fact that J-man didn't quite master natural chakra Naruto on the other hand has mastered it that's y J-man looked so much like a frog and naruto looks almost normal. For lack of a better way of describing the 2 forms people just call naruto's tranformation Sage Mode because in english sage means master or one with great knowledge seeing has how naruto is the only person in history to master nature chakra he deserves the title Sage. J-man didnt quite master nature chakra but he came the closest to masering it b4 naruto came along. So seeing how J-man not mastering nature made him look alot like a frog when he used nature chakra Hermit mode fitting for him.

As for a difference in physical abilities that is yet to be seen. Naruto has mastered nature chakra. So there is a very good chance he will have abilities J-man didnt have. In my mind i view as naruto reaching ss2 (super sayian 2) while J-man only reached ss1 (super sayian 1). SS1 and SS2 are very simaler but anyone that has seen dbz would know ss2 clearly outclasses ss1 in everyway. I believe the same is true for Naruto's Sage Mode and Jiraiya's Hermit Mode.
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

naruto's & j-man's sage mode are the same....

it only differs from their physical appearance & mastery...

according fukusaku, naruto has mastered it very well than j-man did....
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

^But that also means Naruto can learn even more powerful sage techniques than J-Man did right? So still a big difference.
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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

Ofcourse is a differece between naruto's sannin mode and jiraya termit mode, Naruto mastered nature manipulation much better then jiraya did. I'm sure we gonna see a new Naruto , way more powerfull then jiraya ever was but i doubt he will use other jutsus. The only difference will be the intensity and the effect of each jutsu.


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Re: Difference between Naruto (Sage mode) and J-mans (Hermit mode)?

Both are the same...
But I guess the real transformation should only be some dark markings over eyes, just like Naruto's...
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:43 PM   #15
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^But that also means Naruto can learn even more powerful sage techniques than J-Man did right? So still a big difference.
Well yeah the extent that Naruto mastered Sage mode has pretty much already surpassed Jmans. But the thread creator just wanted to know if there was a difference between Naruto's Sage Mode and Jman's Hermit Mode. And the only difference is the name. It is still the same concept of drawing Nature Energy from around you to use senjutsu.

EDIT: And to the second part of the thread creators question, yes. Pa frog will tach Naruto things that he didn't teach Jman. Naruto has a greater potential than Jman did.
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