Myth

It seems as if danzo's plans might work out if kakashi dies no body else is fit for hokage. If tsunade dies nobody is left to tell naruto about his true past and who really was his father and god father which are KEY THINGS TO THE STORY.

I believe that konoha will lose a few good people it sucks but it seems tsunade won't even have a chance to fight but that's her role as hokage to protect the village but as the root kid said without ppl there is nothing to lead so tsunade will do a great thing before her death.

It sucks how jraiya was right about the root i wish he wasn't but he was that means jiraiya was also right about minato knowing of madara's and perhaps akatsuki's plans which is why he sealed and split the kyuubi.

When naruto returns it will have become very different however the plus side to this is. Naruto is probably gonna be stronger then jiraiya meaning pain is fucked he is probably already stronger then sasuke. Then we have madara left who is the cause to all this hell

Madara formed akatsuki
sent pain on konoha
caused konoha to nearly be destroyed
fucked with sasuke's mind
responsible of death of tsunade because he sent pain there.

this guy is in charge of it all he is something else even though his full power would still be weaker then the firsts he is still the strongest ninja at the time i wonder if danzo will be killed by naruto nah prob sasuke. If kakashi does die then there is nobody strong enough to stop sasuke(kakashi is a 34.5 sasuke is 31.5) sure he won't succeed cause the anbu can stop him but he could also do damage.

For all those who said danzo is better for konoha then tsunade in some threads i read you people are nuts lol this guy sucks hard he is a coward and cannot run a village.

what do you guys think this change how will it effect others in konoha.

Mystik

I have said from the get go that i dont like Danzou .. i mean i prefered him being evil and at least putting up a small fight but someone as much of a coward as he is really ticks me off. The fact he might become hokage ticks me off even more. If he becomes hokage i only see konoha going down the drain. I see him being strict and not caring who dies. Hokage to me must at least care about konoha and the people in it. I think he just wants power. As for who kill's him i don't really care who does it as long as someone does. For some reason i don't see it being Naruto cause he already has so much on his plate. Sasuke well no telling there cause we still don't know what's going to happen with him. If Danzou ends up killing Tsunade and in a cowardly fashion which is how i know he will do it.. i would actually like to see Sakura kill him. I would finally like to see her strengthen up and finally take charge and avenge someone close to her. Specially since she knows she hasnt been much help in that department.

balmung5000

well i for one am FOR
danzo being hokage
only reason why is because teh way i see the manga heading
is that tsunade is probly gonna die here
then danzo will take charge
and then when sasuke comes to destroy kohona
sasuke will end up killing danzo because
he was one of the people who forced
itachi to kill his clan

see it will all work out =)

Myth

well thats the way it prob will happen just sucks tsunade has to die i hope kakashi at least lives cause i doubt kishi will kill off both of em in one arc.

liondemon

Kakashi wont die. Pein will be focused on getting Choji now, and his Rinnegan likely sees chakra since the other 2 do, so he sees that Kakashi is about to die. Hopefully Tsunade's slugs come and heal him while Pein or Peins chases after Choji while he shows us that he is not "useless."

Tsunade really needs to live because he lost the chance to hear all about the stories about his father when he trained him, and he might lose the chance to hear all of the stories from his father's prize student, and Tsunade seems to remeber his mother so well and was close to Jiraya that she kinda has to live to be able to tell that boy the good things that they remember about his parents since they were close. Who else in Konoha could or would have been that close to Minato and/or Kushina? Once he finds out, he is going to want to know what they were like. He will want to know as much as possible. Cannot kill kakashi and Tsunade. Minato's and/or Kushina's teammate may still be in Konoha, maybe not, but either way I would rather hear their story from either Kakashi and/or Tsunade.

What Danzou is doing is not cowardly. Danzou is being smart and using strategy. What would the villagers, shinobi, elders, or Feudal Lord think of Danzou if he just challenged Tsunade like Madara did the 1st to become Hokage? The Feudal lord also has a say on who becomes Hokage. Without no Fedal lord, there would be no Konoha. This is Danzou's perfect chance to let Tsunade be defeated to a point where she is dead or too old and weak an defenseless to be capable of protecting the village. If Tsunade has to go all out, and even take deadly blows from Pein, she will have to open her seal. We know what that does to her. The side effects made her bout as wrinkled as a 90 year old woman, and she needed rest to get back to her old self. Pein aint waiting for her to rejuvinate. She cannot do that all day every day until Naruto comes back. She will be no longer fit to be Hokage. Danzou has been preparing and waiting for this "war". Once he shows how he was already prepared, and his ROOT show their extraordinary capabilities against Pein, the Feudal Lord and the elders will likely decide that is the best decision. Danozu and Root will be the ones that drive Pein out of Konoha, and then the war begins. Naruto has about a month or less to get there now. Tsunade cannot handle 30 days straight of protecting the village like this. Releasing the seal that many times would kill her if Pein didnt personally.

A great leader doesnt have to personally fight the enemy if he makes the proper preperations and has a solid strategy insted of just "protect the village until Naruto gets here", and has trained his followers well enough to work as one solid union under one strategy, gameplan, direction, beliefs, and orders. Danzou has the upper hand. Tsunade is expecting Pein to see what he came for and be defeated by Naruto anytime now, but we all know that isnt going to happen anytime soon. Danzou has a big plan while Tsunade's plan is giving her all andd if so be it, her life for the village until Naruto get's there, and then the plan is probably for the village to be Naruto's backup. Danzou is clearly thinking far enough ahead to the end goal which is to become Hokage. His plans from now on, all lead to that goal. He just may become Hokage. Oh yeah, kakashi already showed that he will only end up killing himself with MS to keep Pein from killing him, so he is out for Hokage. All he can do is be backup and support.

Im not saying that Danzou can take out a body or 2, although i think that he may since Sarutobi at 70 was still greater than 2 Hokages and a Sannin, and one Sannin already took out 3 bodies, eventhough it was with Toad Genjutsu. Like I was saying, Im not saying that Danzou can take out a body at all, but if he has a strategy, some inside info, and well trained, skilled, and organized shinobi working for him then he can still drive Pein out of Konoha and give them some time, or even cause Pein enough Pein that Pein is forced to call in his "Rain shinobi" and the war begins. Danzou is a military type and it's bout to be war. He was a contender to Sarutobi in the past, who just defeated 2 Hokages in their prime and a Sannin 3 years ago. He has an organization in Konoha whose skills have shown to be more advanced than many ANBU, quite a few times. He has favor with the elders and the elders probably have the closest relationship with the Feudal Lord and/or other decision makers. Danzou may have even gained favor with the Feudal lord and others when he made the decision that Uchiha needed to be killed for the sake of the village, and managed to get one of their own, the perfect person, and maybe the only person who could have arranged it done so flawlessly, or possibly done at all. Sometimes it isnt what u know as much as it is who u know, u know? The elders and some other people decided on Jiraiya. Danzou may be the next Hokage and Naruto the 7th may have to take it from him. I guess i should have known that becoming Hokage wasnt gonna be that easy for Naruto the underdog.

Orochumaru ran from Kakashi eventhough both of them knew that Orochumaru would destroy Kakashi. Kabuto ran from Kakashi but went head on with Tsunade and could have killed her while she was crying like a baby, but he wouldnt because he worked for orochu and even Orochu didnt want to kill her. Orochumaru ran from a lot of people, but not fighting an unnecessary battle and not risking your life or bodily damage is the smart thing to do if u have a goal to reach. Naruto is the idiot that risk his life every time, but I wouldnt have it any other way. How great of a Hokage would he be if he didnt always give it his all and still be here today to call himself Hokage? He would be nothing compared to the previous Hokages no matter how strong he was. My point is that Danzou is just being smart and not cowardly. Danzou 1st shows how Tsunade cannot cut it against Pein and his war. "She put her faith, and the sake of the village on the line and into the hands of a boy that never came." Can u imagine how she will look? Especially when the Feudal Lord hears how she wanted to deliver the "secret weapon buuji" that Pein came for right into Peins hands without first cracking Jiraiya's code, or even learning more of Pain's skills and weakness. She didnt even give the village a chance to hold or fend Pein off before deciding to bring Pein what he wanted on a platter. And after what she did and said to the elders about putting their faith in Naruto, which also meant putting their faith in her, she will appear to have put her foot in her mouth. Danzou is about to make her look really bad. She isnt prepared for a strategy that doesnt include Naruto, or I assume that she wouldnt have even wanted him back, but Danzou definitely is. U aint gotta vote for Danzou cuz he gon win it like Bush won his.


I think that Yamato could make a good Hokage. He may not be the 1st Hokage, but he does have a lesser, yet still effective version of the abilities that was said to be the reason that the 1st was made the 1st in the 1st place. His wood can do things and come from places that come in handy for close and long range attacks. His control of water and earth are at such a great level that it allows him to even combine them to become wood in the 1st place. He was Sarutobi's highest ranking Anbu before he died. I think that Yamato could make just a good Hokage as Kakashi, but he wont become Hokage either.

I see Danzou becoming Hokage and the whole village looking like an army base, with bobwire and all. No people walking in the streets. No laughter, no playing, no training, no markets, no nothing. The change will nearly bring tears to Naruto's eyes. It will look almost nothing to the Konoha that he remembered. That ramen shop Nauruto loved will be shut down as well as everything or almost everything else. Everyone will have a dark look and attitude for losing so many friends and family during those times. Everyone will have begun to have "grown" a little more, meaning u wont see any childhood smiley faces or jokes or any of the typical behavior that we have seen from naruto and company. It will be dark due to the rain clouds, and constantly raining in Konoha. Pein's soldiers should be used to fughting in the rain on a constant basis, an have even learned how to use the rain and its puddles, and mud to their advantage, and as their cloak. The Hokages faces on the mountain will be completely or partially destroyed. Then again, the sand should be there in time to keep if from getting that bad. Maybe not. Who knows?

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superhokage360

maybe they won't died just danzo you guys are all negative

Myth

liondemon you sure do write a lot of crap and you haven't the slightest clue on anything danzo is a coward plane and simple the root said let's go help he said no let's hide here because he knows if he showed his pathetic ass to pein he would have his throat slit and the dust would pour out.

Danzo is a washed up old has been he is no where near the level of sarutobi so i have no idea were the hell you got that from, all it said was that he wanted to become hokage but because of his beliefs he didn't. Sarutobi was called the god of ninja in his prime for a reason if there was someone close to his power level at the time he wouldn't be called "god of ninja" he would just be called strong. He was called god because he had no close equal he outclassed everyone in everything.

Sarutobi didn't fight 2 hokage he fought 2 dead souls taking on the appearnce of the hoakge. If you noticed all the 1st and second did was about 2 jutsu.

Shodaime used hidden tree jutsu/total darkness genjutsu
nidaime used water shockwave jutsu that's all

you think the ninja who was called th great in his time(hashirama ) only posses 2 ninjutsu lmfaooo you are one thick person.

Orochimaru was never a coward he only ran when he knew he could not win "ran from kakashi" wtf have u been smoking pass me that please what i remember is kakashi taking a shit in his pants and then oro just plain and simple turning away from kakashi and walking and saying"if you want to carry out your threat now's your chance go ahead" "IF YOU DARE". Kakashi after a moment even admitted to how stupid he was acting in even trying to challenge him. Oro would mop the floors with kakashi even at his death data books show oro was still more powerful then kakashi that little .5 margin is like 1000 power levels above in naruto.

if kakashi doesn't die he will be hokage plain and simple if tsunade doesn't die she will be hokage plain and simple danzo is staying out of the fight because he is to weak to do anything he is pathetic an old man who has expired past his time cannot let go of the fact that he sucks big time and was never wanted as a leader. he knows tsunade will fight and die i mean after all ain killed jiraiya and by the eldars words "THIS IS THE MAN WHO EVENNNNNNNNNNN KILLED JIRAIYA". Tsunade is as powerful as orochiamru was data book proves it oro was more powerful then sarutobi danzo is no where near sarutobi as i explained meaning if he tried to fight anything(danzo) he would be killed which is why he is hiding.

You can post your crap shit theories and ideas they all suck not one thing in your posts is of any valid points or sense it's a bunch of bullshit coming from a biased fan of an old ass geezer, which is actually pretty pathetic. he is willing to have innocent people die just to become hokage PATHETIC i wish perhaps you would be in a place with a leader like that so after you're done taking his side he will say thanks NOW DIE.....

liondemon

Is that u again Nami? Sounds like u except that u didnt call me a failure like u usually do. Whoever u are, i guess we just disagree. I can tell from your post that it's no point even trying to debating with u. I just jumped thorugh your post and didnt even really give it any serious attention. If u are not Nami, u shure are funny like him. U had me laughing at, "liondemon you sure do right a lot of crap." That seriously made me laugh. Your last paragraph was funny too. The way u put the insults together are quite unique, which is how i know when it's my gay lover Namikage85 buttstalking me again. I can just picture u at home with the mug on your face while u say these insults out loud as u type them. Sometime i try to picture u interacting with other people and talking to them the way u talk on here. Thanks for the laugh Nami but i refuse to debate with u so I'll just say that i completely agree with u. Thanks again for the laugh. Good times, good times

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Myth

good times huh mug on my face well you will really get a kick out of this it's not my first time being accused of this nami person someone did it in another thread and here is the response a moderator gave them.

He's not nami/minimalist/etc., smart guys.

Sorry if i remind you of someone you had an altercation with but you have the wrong man sir.

It's just funny at the way you write that's all it's like if you believe everything you wrote then no comment.

liondemon

Oh it's u. How would the moderator know for sure. Im sure that im not the only one with access to more than one computer. nami/minimalist/toad sage/myth/etc. it doesnt matter anyway. I dont dislike u Nami. at first u were annoying but then u were just amusing. I wont get sucked into pointless debates about this Manga with u, but I do get a kick out of your insults. I wasnt being sarcastic if that's what u thought, u really do amuse me, and i really do imagine u interacting with other people everytime i read u on here. U are a funny character, but to stay on topic, I wonder how long it will take for nartuo to return. That will determine how much of a change takes place in Konoha. If Naruto and the Head Toad dont get suspicious soon, it will take an even longer time for them to reach Konoha. One month at regular pace, maybe 2 weeks or faster with Sage mode, if it can increase speed, but how long until they figuire out that the toad in Konoha may be dead? And if they decide to come back on their own, they wont come as fast as if they knew what was taking place in Konoha. The longer that it takes for them to realize that something is wrong, the bigger the change will be on Konoha.

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Myth

it's fine accuse me of whomever you want it's stupid though u think u are talking to someone but that someone isn't the someone u thought lol.

But to stya on topic now that i lmao on the post i believe naruto will not return anytime soon in fact by the time he comes back he will be stronger then jiraiya and not only in "surpassing bullshit" but i mean really stronger then him as in stats higher. Sasuke has been written off from the story don't expect him back till 2009 naruto as well kakashi might die so will tsunade then sakura will grow up and by the time naruto return it will be NWO.

Shikamaru

kishi said he was gonna focus on kakashi and Sasuke(or it might've been sakura i dunno) in the manga for a good while. He also said a big event was gonna happen to Kakashi which means he cant die because there was no big event yet (unless this is his big event which would be lame) Chances of kakashi dieing are slim KthxBai

KatrinaKatt

I find it strangely suspicious that you, who has joined on October 2008, would know of Namikaze (and not his more recent ones).. which, as I understand it, was the original incarnation of this later "clones" as we've come to know them :P And, that was probably 5 months ago that he was banned on Nami...

And, I'm thinking it's funny how you refer to yourself in the 2nd person. All of your clones do something slightly difference; speech, colors.. but usually there is a slip-up, and you start typing without periods again, and I usually see it right away. Try not to take it personal, It's nothing against you either. I enjoy most of your discussion, other than the occasional flames.

There is no denying it -_- Admins will easily tell, and you'll just be back again (Which I think is hilarious, by the way ^.^)

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edit: Oops, I forgot to contribute to the post!

I think, for now, Tsunade cannot die without revealing Naruto's past. I find it strange that Kakashi might do it, but I suppose Kakashi had a more personal relationship with Minato than Tsunade would have. . . Provided Kakashi doesn't kick the bucket.

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poolangya

kakashi will have to kick the bucket in my opinion, he has more use dead than alive to make the story more interesting and in order to provide more cam time to the other konoha nins. i believe kakashi knows more than tsunade about naruto's father, but naruto's mother, i think tsunade knows more. but maybe kakashi will pass the knowledge, and his last wish would be to let naruto know of his parentage.

Change in Konoha could be small, i don't think the old relic danzou would succeed in his plans on taking the hokage seat.sasuke is on his way to konoha remember? That would be a clash, Root vs. Hebi-akatsuki. but still naruto will find a slightly different konoha, with no kakashi-sensei. unless i'm wrong. :P

Myth

Yes but as you see i explained i didn't write those names a moderator did and i copy pasted his post

So yes it's not me of whomever you guys are implying to if there are similarities which I wouldn't know since i don't know him then that is strange but then again there's lot's of people who are alike in characteristics if that's what you meant. But I assure you I am not a Duplicate of anyone from the past i stumbled on to this forum by accident while searching for some places to read naruto manga.
It is also really annoying that people are accusing me of being someone else if that's the case why don't you report me to the staff members and let them deal with it instead of telling me that I am a duplicate. Anyway I am done with the situation if you love to waste your time on nonsense be my guest.

If kakashi knew of naruto's heritage he would have told him by now, I do not understand why Jiraiya didn't yet either it's really strange.