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Old 12-17-2008, 06:47 PM   #16
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Re: a boy named 'Adolf Hitler'

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No, it isn't just a name. Calling your kid Adolf Hitler is like calling your kid "Evil Bastard". Everyone knows what the name means, everyone knows the connotations it holds, and all the connotations it holds are negative. It is no-longer "just a name". The man is considered the single most evil man of the 20th Century by just about everyone, and if not the most evil, definitely one of the greatest practitioners of genocide in living memory. If you dismiss Adolf Hitler as "just a name", I don't think you quite grasp what that name means for a lot of people, and a lot of people who've suffered because of the things he did.
You have a good point. Still, I don't think anyone's name should connote evil if they didn't make it up for themselves. There's nothing wrong with the name Adolf Hitler. If we're talking about German Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, then I agree, pure evil. But 3-year-old American Adolf Hitler hasn't done anything. He should be treated according to his character, not his name. Besides, doesn't the government have the power to ban certain names? If the government thinks it's okay, I don't see any reason why ShopRite shouldn't.
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:02 PM   #17
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Re: a boy named 'Adolf Hitler'

Because if ShopRite didn't stop this, it wouldn't reach the media in any way, and this kind of stupid, ignorant practice would just go on without challenge. Sometime you gotta take morality in your own hands, not just leave it to the law. Didn't TV teach you anything?

If they're doing this for the lulz, though, it's pretty epic. For God's sake, the other kid is called "Aryan Nation". I doubt they are, though. They seem too thick .
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:26 PM   #18
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Because if ShopRite didn't stop this, it wouldn't reach the media in any way, and this kind of stupid, ignorant practice would just go on without challenge. Sometime you gotta take morality in your own hands, not just leave it to the law. Didn't TV teach you anything?

If they're doing this for the lulz, though, it's pretty epic. For God's sake, the other kid is called "Aryan Nation". I doubt they are, though. They seem too thick .
If anyone here thinks the name "Adolf Hitler" is offensive then I cannot even explain in words how much of a dipshit you are. If you cry when you see the name Adolf Hitler, then it is your problem not his or the parents. Naming a kid is not in any way forcing anyone to do anything so it can't be morally wrong. You aren't taking anyone else's right to life.
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:32 PM   #19
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If anyone here thinks the name "Adolf Hitler" is offensive then I cannot even explain in words how much of a dipshit you are. If you cry when you see the name Adolf Hitler, then it is your problem not his or the parents. Naming a kid is not in any way forcing anyone to do anything so it can't be morally wrong. You aren't taking anyone else's right to life.
It's not about such superficial responses. It's about the principle of naming your child after an international hate figure, a noun that embodies such strong imagery and association that everyone knows what the man stood for. Godwin's law, for a lulzy example. If you start letting people being able to casually name their children after Hitler, especially when they're in a country where the name isn't usual, then you really start to trivialise a vital part of the 20th century.
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It's not about such superficial responses. It's about the principle of naming your child after an international hate figure, a noun that embodies such strong imagery and association that everyone knows what the man stood for. Godwin's law, for a lulzy example. If you start letting people being able to casually name their children after Hitler, especially when they're in a country where the name isn't usual, then you really start to trivialise a vital part of the 20th century.
What are you basing your morality on because I still don't see how I am violating anyone when I am naming my kid Adolf Hitler. What right of someone's am I breaking?
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:40 PM   #21
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Re: a boy named 'Adolf Hitler'

As always..people seem to think that burning jews was hitler's only purpose/achievement while forgetting that he is a real man who wrote down his life plans/dreams and achieved them all until he gone mad and lost..

If someone was in the prison and while he was there he decided to work hard for 14 years until he becomes the leader of the country and actually did it...then that man is worthy of been respected not for his crimes..but for achieving his goals despite there hardness without giving up.

for him we shall salute...or better say (sieg heil).
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:43 PM   #22
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Re: a boy named 'Adolf Hitler'

It's not about rights. You have every right to call your kid Adolf Hitler. You don't, however, have the right to get your kid's name iced on a cake at ShopRite. So, the people at ShopRite have every right to not do it on the grounds of causing offence, because it's not affecting you or your child's "right to life", as you put it. So, you getting indignant and calling them "dipshits" isn't really justified.
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:51 PM   #23
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Re: a boy named 'Adolf Hitler'

Are we talking about what is offensive to people or for the child?

Cuz if it was for the people then fuck them i'll name my child whatever i like..its none of there bisbis.

If it were for the child then he can change his name when he grows up..also people must realize that adolf and hitler are ppl names and ppl do use them separately all the time..so its not fair to say its not fair to use them together cuz they refer to a criminal or have a racist symbol.
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Old 12-17-2008, 09:17 PM   #24
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Re: a boy named 'Adolf Hitler'

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As always..people seem to think that burning jews was hitler's only purpose/achievement while forgetting that he is a real man who wrote down his life plans/dreams and achieved them all until he gone mad and lost..

If someone was in the prison and while he was there he decided to work hard for 14 years until he becomes the leader of the country and actually did it...then that man is worthy of been respected not for his crimes..but for achieving his goals despite there hardness without giving up.

for him we shall salute...or better say (sieg heil).
God, I hate you.

Are you fucking delusional? Hitler's "Final Solution" was as integral part of his plan as brainwashing the German people. The bastard was insane from the start, really, so it's not like he got power drunk and started genociding anything that pissed him off. He wrote down his dreams in a booklet that become the guidebook for every single fucking Nazi and in that booklet it said, "Kill the Jews." What the fuck do you mean "we should respect that?"

A crime is something you should take into consideration when deciding whether to respect someone. Let's weigh the pros and cons of Hitler's regime:
-Pro: Germany out of the shitter.
-Con: Direct violation of the Treaty of Versailles (yes, I believe the treaty was unfair, but it was an official policy, and it should have been enforced).
-Pro: ...
-Con: World War II (I know that Hitler and Nazi Germany aren't the only people who started this shit, but come on, Hitler's the one who fucking empowered the Axis)
-Pro: Uh...
-Con: Genocide of Jews and other non-Aryans.
I won't even use sarcasm because a) you can't spell it correctly and b) you don't fucking understand it.

Fuck you, I refuse to salute Hitler in any way, shape, or form.

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I feel sorry for the kid, but the whole swastika on the cake is a bit too far.
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Old 12-17-2008, 10:41 PM   #25
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Re: a boy named 'Adolf Hitler'

Hey, I live kinda near easton.

I lol'd at those kid names. Prime example of parents that shouldn't have been allowed to breed. Unless it was for the lulz. Then that is pretty damn awesome.
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Re: a boy named 'Adolf Hitler'

I honestly feel that the family did it to try and be unique. I think its sad really...
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Old 12-18-2008, 02:40 AM   #27
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Re: a boy named 'Adolf Hitler'

I don't think anyone here is stupid enough (well maybe, >.>) to be offended or to discriminate a child who's parents are obviously retarded.

At least, I don't anyone here would.
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Re: a boy named 'Adolf Hitler'

not sure about the states but in new zealand if a child has an inappropiate name or the child is embarrased by the name they can go to court an have if the court agrees the child can choose a new name on their own. seriously naming ur child adolf hitler may not b illegal but u can think of the crap the kid is goin 2 hav 2 go through in school
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Re: a boy named 'Adolf Hitler'

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Heh heh heh.

God, I hate you.

Are you fucking delusional? Hitler's "Final Solution" was as integral part of his plan as brainwashing the German people. The bastard was insane from the start, really, so it's not like he got power drunk and started genociding anything that pissed him off. He wrote down his dreams in a booklet that become the guidebook for every single fucking Nazi and in that booklet it said, "Kill the Jews." What the fuck do you mean "we should respect that?"

A crime is something you should take into consideration when deciding whether to respect someone. Let's weigh the pros and cons of Hitler's regime:
-Pro: Germany out of the shitter.
-Con: Direct violation of the Treaty of Versailles (yes, I believe the treaty was unfair, but it was an official policy, and it should have been enforced).
-Pro: ...
-Con: World War II (I know that Hitler and Nazi Germany aren't the only people who started this shit, but come on, Hitler's the one who fucking empowered the Axis)
-Pro: Uh...
-Con: Genocide of Jews and other non-Aryans.
I won't even use sarcasm because a) you can't spell it correctly and b) you don't fucking understand it.

Fuck you, I refuse to salute Hitler in any way, shape, or form.

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I feel sorry for the kid, but the whole swastika on the cake is a bit too far.
Then you didn't understand any shit from what i said..

I didn't said that he should be respected for being a criminal nor for how much good or bad his achievement ...i said he should be respected as a real special man..cuz he reached the imposible..he was in the lowest layer of society and jumped to the highest one using only his plans and hard work..after that he was able to take over all of europe and like half of asia on his own..we thank god that he went mad at last and failed otherwise we will be singing the german anthem infront of the nazi flag.

In brief..he was a bad guy and he got what he deserve..but if he was a man that made a twist in the world and made it something else than it was before him (take USA as an example) thats why he entered the history cuz he was considered a genius..criminal..but a genius..and i admire men like him.
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:07 PM   #30
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Then you didn't understand any shit from what i said..

I didn't said that he should be respected for being a criminal nor for how much good or bad his achievement ...i said he should be respected as a real special man..cuz he reached the imposible..he was in the lowest layer of society and jumped to the highest one using only his plans and hard work..after that he was able to take over all of europe and like half of asia on his own..we thank god that he went mad at last and failed otherwise we will be singing the german anthem infront of the nazi flag.

In brief..he was a bad guy and he got what he deserve..but if he was a man that made a twist in the world and made it something else than it was before him (take USA as an example) thats why he entered the history cuz he was considered a genius..criminal..but a genius..and i admire men like him.
For fuck's sake, there are better rags-to-riches stories than Hitler. Like Andrew Carnegie. Carnegie was a business shark, yes, but at least he didn't bring about the fucking genocide of a specific group because he thought they were dirty scum. And there's more to Hitler's takeover than simple elbow grease and hard work. No, the German people were fucking tired of their inadequate government and they were fucking tired of being the world's bitch. Hitler just happened to pull his shit off at the right time. He said, "Fuck you!" to the government and said, "Fuck the Jews!" to an angry people who needed something to bitch at. It wasn't, "Hey, guys, listen: we're in the shitter, I know, but we can get back on top if we just try!" It was, "Alright. Here's the plan: bring back Germany's glory by slaughtering EVERYONE who pisses us off! And we won't stop with Jews! No, we'll kill gypsies, we'll kill Catholics, we'll kill homosexuals, we'll kill every non-Aryan son-of-a-bitch who gets in our way! Blitzkrieg those faggots in the League of Nations! TAKE THEM DOWN!" That's hardly what I call a man to admire. He took the whole rags-to-riches and bastardized it.

Hitler didn't have the best intentions from the start. Mein Kampf was all about Third Reich and killing Jews and Übermensch. He was a raving lunatic who was a genius, yes. But there are other geniuses to admire, like Newton or Alfred Hitchcock or Einstein. Hitler entered history because his plans, his Final Solution, was so diabolical and extreme and hateful that to ignore it would be the most absolute shit-in-the-face to all of the people affected by him and his Nazi cohorts.

I understand you admire that rat bastard because of the simplistic "hurr hurr, he was in jail but became Führer, sieg heil!" but there is just so much more to that man.
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