kael03

Having worked at that desk for over 6 months, I can tell you that a lot of the time the cameras aren't pointed towards the registers, since the desk has a clear view of the area. When I did that job, the closest camera didn't even have a good view of the registers, though I did.

Tabris

At the depot there was a camera behind every two registers, even in outdoor seasonal, and only a few of the cameras in the aisles weren't dummies.

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Mal

The primary function of most security cameras is making people self-aware so that instead of thinking "Do I want to steal this?" they think "I am I the kind of person who would steal this?" This helps them consider their beliefs, and since most people like to think of themselves as honest they are less likely to do something dishonest.

Demi-God

"Oh shit a camera, if I steal this I might get caught... is it worth it?"

Mal

That only applies to people who are willing to steal something in the first place. Most people won't actually think about that because they decide not to steal something based on their own morals and don't need to consider possible consequences or planning. Besides, if someone wants to steal something they're going to do it, camera or not.

Tabris

QUESTION! is it embarrassing to have some one co-sign so you can buy a house at the age of 22?
my twin insists it is, so she'll pay 1500-2000 dollars a month rent to rent a house big enough for her and all her tenants, instead of paying the same or less for a mortgage.
together she and her bf make at least 5000 a month, but Amanda has fucked up her credit so bad that even with her bf making awesome money and fairly good credit she'd still need a co-signer.

so, is it humiliating? she says it is

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Mal

I wouldn't be embarrassed if I had to do it because I had no credit at all, but if I had to do it because I fucked up my credit that bad then I would be embarrassed. It's not really a matter of needing a co-signer, it's admitting how poorly I managed my finances

Demi-God

Mal - Not really, a lot of people want to do a lot of things (usually things that benefit them), but a lot of things deter them from it. Or even on the other hand, things that encourage them to do something because they feel it's "morally right", but is actually the wrong thing to do.

For some people the thought of stealing will never cross their minds, not because they're "morally superior" in any way but simply because the benefit of it is so low compared to the risks that it's simply not worth even considering it.

Sometimes stealing is actually the right thing to do, it might not be often but there are definitely instances, but in some situations where it's right there would be those that don't do it because they deem it morally wrong and they'll usually end up suffering for it.

In quite a few places they don't actually have real cameras due to budget issues, simply fake ones to give the idea that people are being recorded and that if they do something they might get caught (though that's just one factor of it).

Moral behaviour is never absolute and never has been.

Mal

Yes, really. It's called Self-Awareness Theory and states "when we focus our attention on ourselves, we evaluate and compare our current behavior to our internal standards and values. We become self-conscious as objective evaluators of ourselves."

Knowing (or thinking) you're being recorded makes you aware of yourself in this way.

ACt

I don't think it is ever embarrassing to have someone co-sign a mortgage so you can own a house. Houses are bloody expensive and to put any kind of significant down payment in so you aren't paying for the rest of your life, you are going to need someone else, probably, so a co-sign is an easy step further. If you are going to be able to keep up the mortgage payments and never default, it is a safer route. PLUS you are paying to own something rather than just throwing money away while renting a home. In the long run, it makes more sense to pay to own because unless you trash it, you'll get your money back.

What IS embarrassing is messing up your credit. Shits not hard to maintain. If you use credit, make sure you have the money to pay it off or a plan to keep the interest at bay.

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It's amazing to me that, unlike in the real world, people on the internet will wear "everyone thinks I'm a moron" as a badge of honour.

Demi-God

Yeah I know, I studied self-awareness. But it doesn't change the fact that the camera plays a part in acting as a deterrent for people who want to steal but evaluate the risks as being too high in order to do so and not just as some sort of stimuli for them to evaluate their moral code. Not everyone who wants to steal does so, simply because at times if they're smart enough to evaluate the risks properly... it's not worth it. Granted you get the few who are stupid enough to not understand the risks and go for it anyway. A cost-benefit analysis of sorts.

LonelyNinja

Speaking of credit, you guys reminded me to check my credit card balance. OH got mah back.

Edit: And now it's paid off. Cheers.

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Demi-God

Share the wealth LN. We'll buy you games with it. =D

LonelyNinja

No. Still no.

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Demi-God

I was gonna buy you Dragon Age 2 on Steam with it, but fiiiiiiine. If you don't want such a fantastic game that's your problem...