Numinous

IF he needs Senju DNA (which isn't a certainty) it shouldn't be that hard to get. Counting how many people got a hold of Hashirama's DNA, I guess there's a store selling the stuff somewhere.

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Back when tobi explained Izanagio he said it was a tech only used by possesors of both bloodlines of Uchiha and Senju and since Izanami is it's pair I assumed it needed the same requirement

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Izanagi and Izanami is a forbidden jutsu of the Uchiha so any uchiha should be able to use them, but is an incomplete version. However, Hashiramas chakra can allow for a more powerful version of the jutsu.

Like how hashiramas chakra just in danzous arm allowed for him to use the jutsu for 1 minute as opposed to the Izanagi that supposed to last an instant when used by an uchiha. Or Tobis Izanagi that lasted about 5 minutes after his incorporeal state ninjutsu failed because it only lasts 5 minutes max, and he had an entire body with hashiramas chakra. Obviously hashiramas chakra increases the power of the jutsu, but its the sages Izanagi that is the true Izanagi ( full power RG+SG+hashirama chakra) which turns imagination into realty... not just some defensive genjutsu.

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jericho Uzimaki

I was wondering if Ino used mind body switch on Kabuto and used and performed the hand signs to release Edo Tensei, would it work? or does the jutsu follow the caster's consciousness?
Because if just Kabuto's body has to do the proper seals then it would have been cool if Ino Shika Cho defeated him teamed up with Neji, Lee.



Also I have another thought since Lee doesn't use his chakra, is it gathering up or what?
Anyway could he or Gai use one of the treasures of the Sage, sparingly of course.

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kael03

He uses his chakra, just in the form of taijutsu with the 8 gates. He just has no skill with ninjutsu or genjutsu.

Why not? Tenten did.

Human Rasengan

Danzo's Izanagi was incomplete because he wasn't a natural Uchiha and he needed Shodai cells to help him controll those sharingans, whereas with Tobi he used it because he is essentially Uchiha and stated that in order to perform Izanagi an Uchiha has to have Senju power as well.. Being Uchiha is what makes the jutsu last for 5 minutes.

Now! Seeing that Itachi caught kabuto in about a 5 minute loop and Izanami is Izanagi's pair it would stand to reason that Itachi needed some Senju DNA in order to perform it. Most things that are considered a pair or on par use the same requiremnts.

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...no, it isn't. Tobi first stated that Izanagi lasts for an instant, and that Danzo had been experimented on by Orochimaru to make Izanagi last longer. You're assuming that Tobi's Izanagi lasted 5 minutes with no evidence other than his intangibility lasts for 5 minutes. However, it's more likely that he activated Izanagi just after he had to become solid (resulting in the loss of his arm and part of his mask) to buy time to reactive his intangibility.

You're assuming that the discussion prior to the loop being started was that amount of time. It's wrong to assume such a thing since the fighting in each loop is significantly short (Sasuke uses Grand Fireball, Kabuto counters with Great Waterfall, Kabuto stabs Itachi crow clone, Itachi counters by slicing off Kabuto's horn, returns to Sasuke using Grand Fireball).

Not necessarily. Izanagi was never stated it required Senju DNA, but Senju DNA made it more effective. Danzo's use of Hashirama cells was to increase his own chakra to allow him to use the 10 sharingan (since using a single sharingan for an extended period of time in a non-Uchiha body is very debilitating).

Since Izanagi required a sharingan to sacrifice, Izanami requires a sharingan to sacrifice. Notice how Itachi never once mentioned that Izanami/Izanagi needed Senju DNA when he was explaining it?

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jericho Uzimaki

Taijutsu doesn't consume chakra.

Sasuke had to use Taijutsu when he was fighting the sound ninja in the Chunin exams. Cause even activating his sharinghan(which takes very small amount from an Uchiha) caused a reaction form the curse mark.

The eight gates have nothing to do with chakra. They are points in the body that the surpass to increase their physical abilities.(speed, recovery,strength, reflexes, etc.)


But I think the answer is no everyone has a set amount their body stores, such as Kakashi, even Naruto.

Tsunade bypassed it by creating the seal on her foreheads that stores her chakra there over time, which must be great amounts. Healing the entire village and all.

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You were right on the 5 min thing but when Izanagi was first introduced Tobi said it was only available to one with powers of Senju and Uchiha http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v54/c510/10.html

Since Itachi said Izangi and Izanmi form a pair and have the same drawback of loosing an eye I just figured it needed the same prerequisites of Senju and Uchiha as well

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kael03

Certain moves do. Anything involving the 8 Gates consumes chakra in some form or another. Activating specific gates either increases chakra flow to the muscles, or cells to stimulate regeneration.

It was reacting even without him using the Sharingan. Kakashi just warned him to not use the Sharingan to keep the Curse from affecting him too fast. The curse actually started to activate even when Sasuke was using his Lion Combo (because he had to use chakra to enhance his movements).

Um...wanna bet?

Not entirely sure what this is directed at, but if it was to the question about Gai or Lee using the Sage's treasures, then the answer is still yes. Tenten was using the fan for a bit, and she's a woman in a Kishi manga (i.e., the most useless and weakest character).

That was AFTER Izanagi was first introduced, genius. Also, Tobi was talking about a more perfect usage of Izanagi requiring both Senju and Uchiha DNA. He called Danzo's version incomplete.

To make full use of either jutsu, one would need both sides of the coin. However, Izanami/Izanagi can be used by any Uchiha who awakened their sharingan. Did you completely ignore Itachi's explanation of a "power that can affect the enemy regardless of their 5 senses, in exchange for losing their own light" that did NOT involve Senju DNA? (Before you comment about the arm, that was Shisui's arm implanted with Hashirama's DNA to increase Danzo's stamina/chakra supply).

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I hate to be nit picky, but Jericho is right when he says taijutsu doesn't require chakra. It requires stamina which is different. Chakra is made by converting stamina, which is why Rock Lee only does taijutsu, since he sucks at the process of making/converting chakra.

That said, Kael is right to say some taijutsu can use chakra, or more accurately, be enhanced with chakra. Raikage comes to mind.

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^ So does Tsunade and Sakura. Hyuuga also has chakra based taijutsu.

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Senkradlol

The 8 gates open up the chakra gates to increase the flow of chakra though, so how can the gates not involve chakra?

They allow you to break the limiter on chakra..so doesn't that mean he uses chakra?