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THe only reason that Danzo's form was incomplete was because he lacked the ability to control Hashirama's power http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v54/c510/12.html not because he wasn't an uchiha . To bi said Izanagi/(Izanami) is ONLY available to those who posses both bloodlines Tobi had both bloodlines , Danzo had both bloodlines , the tech is available to Edo Madara because he posses both bloodlines.. because of this it made me wonder how Itachi was able to use Izanami but I guess when the explanationof the jutsu comes out we'll have the answer and one of us will have to be right question is which one?

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jericho Uzimaki

let me see...

well, chakra is basically life energy. Everyone has it to be a able to use gen or Ninjutsu, you have to be have the ability to manipulate it, within yourself.

Yes, the 8 gates are "chakra" gates, but opening them DOESN'T require you to manipulate chakra itself. the overflow of it into certain areas causes the effects. Which also causes stress on the body depending on how many gates you have opened and for how long.

Hyuuga focus there strikes to hit the Chakra points, they don't use any moves with chakra itself. Except now Hinata uses that lion attack thing, which focuses chakra around her hands.
BUT Neji & Hinata can use ninjutsu, just like any other Hyuga that is a ninja. How do I know?
The test to pass the Academy is the shadow clone test. The basic jutsu to learn in the Academy is the substitution jutsu. Lee somehow got sent through the Academy without both, as said "he is the first ninja to graduate without knowing ANY jutsu.

B.O.T.

The gates release the control the amount flowing but is not considered actually manipulating or using chakra in the attacks themselves.

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ok i was wondering about tobi's time/space jutsu. Does he use a sharingan to use that technique? or is it just a natural ability he has like kekkei gengai.

I think tobi is the 1st son of the sage, if you compare the pattern of his eyes and the pattern when he teleports, the patterns visually looks similar.(sorry couldn't explain it properly with my limited vocab/inteligence) but you know what am trying to say. I know its a vague comparison, thought it would be a bit plausible and might be infact the 1st son who lost his eyes and powers or somehow left himself in existence with his doujutsu.

jericho Uzimaki

creative. but he would have to be hundreds of years old. At most he is Danzou's age or maybe a little older.

I think the sharinghan he uses is the key to that jutsu. I don't think he is Obito but I think it is similar to Kakashi's. Might be interesting IF Kaskashi learns how to do it.

He is probably just someone with a huge chakra reserve.

I am hoping he is Sasuke Sarutobi, it would be a good twist if Kishi could do it write. He was Hurizen's Dad so he is old enough to know Madara personally.

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Damn, that is a hell of a theory. I'm kinda resolved to him being an Uzumaki honestly. It would explain his ability to live long due to his life force. It would offer an answer for him being able to handle the Rinnegan. And if not that he's half and half. Just seems that massive chakra reserves are necessary to harness the Rinnegan. But maybe that character discovery of Tobi will kick back some excitement. Itachi & Kabuto are killing my enthusiasm at this point in the story.

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just to reinforce the theory of tobi being the 1st son; It has been said tobi is just a chakra i think and we all know he's using zetsu body. Prior to that, with one of his doujutsu, is it possible the 1st son could have sealed his life chakra(and conciousness) in a "pot/wall/earth/dead body/some entity, or in watever" (similar to how minato left some his and kushinas chakra in naruto) until zetsu somehow intercepted his the sealed location by accident and triggered to unseal his chakra to zetsus body (maybe seal was designed to whoever touches it, it unseals or a thought calling out to whoever(zetsu) near by the sealed chakra). Thats how 1st son and zetsu met (time line could be when madara was a rookie) then he called himself tobi or madara to accomplish his plans.

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What do you guys think of the new shippuden movie 6 coming out for this summer (in japan). Its drawn and the plot is done by kishi. Hence it will follow the orginal work where tobi and whole of akatsuki are in it as well. Obviously its a non-canon in terms of story, but since kishi is 100% involved the fights and attacks are canon. So it would be interesting if a battle takes place of two ninja that havn't fought before and see who wins.

HookedOnSonics518

I have a theory. Since the Uzumaki clan are distantly related to the Senju, could it be possible that the Uchiha AND the Senju came from the Uzumaki clan? Which means, the Sage of the Six Paths (Rikudō Sennin) is an Uzumaki?

Konnaha_yellow_flash

I made that theory, but got the same criticism as usual.

I theorized RS was Originally Uzumaki and his two sons became different clans from the combining of the juubis Yin half chakra plus uzumaki made the uchiha. And the yang half of the juubis chakra plus Uzumaki made the senju making all three related directly.

I'm still wondering who the third sibling going to be.... Yea, I think RS had three children not just two because kishi likes to use pairs of three allot in this manga so I think its inevitable IMO. It could be a female though.


Just a thought...
kabutos comment about him being closer to the Rikudou Sage then anyone else with his dragon SM plus juugo, suigetsu's and karins abilities makes me wonder if RS truly didn't split his abilities into six separate clans. Could be represented by the six elements...

Uchiha make up the Yin chakra of juubi.. represent fire
Senju make up Yang chakra of juubi.. represent earth
Houzuki (suigetsu's clan) represents water....
Namikaze represents wind...
Raikages unknown clan represents lightning...
and Uzumaki represent Void...

Void being empty space and use of T/S jutsu through seals.
I considered who juugo could be related to and whos his unknown clan. If I had to guess I would say Uzumaki since naruto has the ability to use Nature energy too and the CS 1 form is a body of seals all over... Juugo could be uzumaki, not positive though.

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jericho Uzimaki

I think it is Kishi doing a "what if I did this instead, how would it turn out?" type of thing.

In this movie The moon's eye plan works and Naruto and others are put in a Genjutsu where the 4th did not die and I'm guessing since sasuke looks "happy" the Uchiha massacre didn't happen either.

I am curious as to how powerful Naruto would be if his parents were there to train him. Rasengan at an early age so maybe complete it at an earlier age. Heck through influence f his father he might be calmer or more level headed.

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So basically Kishi used one of my fan fictions as the screen play?

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Yes if you consider chimps your grandparents.

I have no idea how people just fail at genealogy, it's so goddamn simple: RS was NOT an Uchiha, Senju or Uzumaki, he was their most recent common ancestor. The First Son was the first known ancestor of the Uchiha that wasn't common with the Senju and Uzumaki and the Second Son the most recent known common ancestor between the Senju and Uzumaki.

In layman words, take the perspective of the Uchiha clan as a person and imagine the RS as the grandfather of that person, the First Son the father, the Second Son the uncle and the Senju and Uzumaki as cousins that were born in different times.



And, as usual, KYF doesn't make the least bit of sense. Oh well...

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Konnaha_yellow_flash

And as usual u try and apply actual genealogy to a fictional manga... FAIL!!!!

RS being an Uzumaki makes perfect sense when u consider certain facts from the manga.

:aN Uzumaki is the only one to gain the RG without needing hashirama and EMS powers (nagato).

:two Uzumaki's (naruto and kabuto with karin uzumaki in him, possibly even juugo's clan is uzumaki) are the only ones to master Sage mode in the narutoverse and RS clearly looks like a dragon sage from his picks with the horns.

: And RS is the first to create the jink seal and the uzumaki are known as the clan with the greatest seals so he must have been an uzumaki just by that little fact alone. Dragon SM plus uzumaki seals would make Pre-RG RS strong enough to take on the juubi IMO.

: Uzumaki is the only other direct descendant to the senju besides the uchiha. However, the senju is related to RS's youngest son and the uchiha to his elder son leaving Uzumaki as the only clan without a ancestor out RS and the two sons. Easy peasy... with there being only three clans known to come from RS and two are already known for his sons (uchiha and senju). That leaves the Uzumaki clan as RS's clan of relation by default NUMI.... Its just so damn easy!

Face it numi, RS being Uzumaki is the most likely scenario at this point in the manga. RS was a seals user obviously, had the compatibility to be a jink like Mito,kushina. Became the Rikudou sage, but after gaining the juubis power so he could have been a dragon previously judging by his horns. The power of the RG just made him go from being the dragon sage to the rikudou sage.
Why else isn't any other RG users Rikudou sages? Madara isn't, nagato wasn't. One must already have to be a sage then gain the RG to become the Rikudou sage.
Hell, the RG may just be the SG boosted by nature energy lol. Hashirama's power does resemble nature energy in the way both act as forms of life energy to increase ninjutsu/genjutsu.

EDIT: I am out of room, but I wish to post a though I just had.

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Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....

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Yes, because Kishimoto never introduced the concept of lineage and blood relatives... OH WAIT.

What part of "ancestor" you don't fucking get about RS? He preceded the three clans while having all of their powers, so no shit RS didn't need Hashirama's cells to achieve Rinnegan.

Special pleading. Where in the manga does it state that someone needs Uzumaki DNA to achieve Sage Mode? We have at least 2 other non-Uzumaki characters (Jiraiya and Orochimaru) attempting and at least one of them achieving an imperfect form, so it seems more like a practice issue, not a blood one.

Also, Juugo's clan ISN'T Uzumaki. If Kishi went off his way to make Karin Uzumaki, he'd do the same for Juugo's clan. Guess what, he didn't!

Pfft-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Oh, this is just fucking precious! This is blindness to the obvious that even William Craig would be ashamed of. So Naruto's CM that looks EXACTLY like RS doesn't matter, you just grab the horns (that don't even look the same) and push them into the theory even if it doesn't fit at all.

Too bad the Uzumaki clan only came to be years after RS' death. Also, the Uzumaki clan isn't the only clan with skill in Fuuinjutsu, it's just the best.

Too bad canon doesn't say he had any of those. Heck, the only jutsu we know RS had was Banbutsu Souzou and you even deny that.

Wut? Neither the Uchiha nor the Uzumaki descend from the Senju, they're just relatives. That's like saying your brother and your cousin are direct descendants of you.

The manga says Senju and Uzumaki are distant relatives without mentioning the Uchiha, therefore making the most recent common ancestor the Second Son. You should know this if you knew basic genealogy.

Switching up Uchiha with gorillas, Senju with chimps and Uzumaki with humans, you're saying both gorillas and chimps descended from humans. Oh, the evolutionary hilarity!

Yes, if you flunked at all high school Biology tests.

And Bee. Who is not an Uzumaki, by the way.

I'd say for power balancing, but you'd be too dumb to understand why. So I'll say coincidence just to bait you into a nerdrage frenzy.

That's why Tobi called himself "the second coming of the sage" while dubbing Nagato the third. Makes total sense.

You just contradicted yourself. You said Madara and Nagato weren't sages, but now you're implying they had to be sages in order to achieve Rinnegan. Nice work, numpty.

I won't even bother with all the stupid from this quote.

Do yourself a favor and start writing (fan)fiction instead of these "thoughts". It's much more productive.

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