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True, but that's part or war. If that did happen I think we know how it would play out.

1) Random fodder ninjas fall over unconscious.
2) Sensor ninja says they are still alive.
3) Kiba (or shino with his bugs) smells a faints scent on the air as the fumes are starting to reach his location.
4) Kiba (or shino) tell everyone to get back. As they do so kiba starts to get gets dizzy from the effects, though not completely out of the picture since he only had partial exposure.
5) Rest of the guys figure out a plan to beat him.


That's basically how shit happens in this manga. Predictable writing is predictable.

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superninja

Lol yeah, fights are usually not one sided so the other side has to have information or a counter.

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Sensei-Q

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Is the same one Oro tried to summon in Konoha. He knew all along that Minato can't be summoned. The Edo Ritual was already done for the 1st and 2nd Hokage long before the coup. And so was the mysterious third coffin. 3rd coffin back then, sixth coffin right now.

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superninja

Nice idea. Still doesn't answer the question of who is in the coffin, but it would give Oro some credit because he would be the one that found that powerful ninja to summon.
And it's probably real Madara in that coffin, would make the most sense.

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Senkradlol

Orochimaru didn't know about the deathgod jutsu though, he was confused when the third used it on him. So I'm going to say he wasn't aware the 4th new it and that was how he died. He probably just thought the fox killed him.

superninja

Yeah, I agree. I think Oro tried to summon Minato and failed, in manga Kabuto said something like that.

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The 3rd coffin was Minato. Kabuto confirmed this.

Now Kabuto's 6th coffin is tricky. I'm gonna say it's got to be the Rikudou Sennin. We know whoever it was made Madara shit his pants. I'm 100% certain madara is who he says he is, so the "real madara" theory is out the window. If kabuto is right about not being able to Edo up sealed souls, then all the previous Hokages are out of the picture. Hashirama or Minato were the only ones that could have threatened him anyway. So with them gone, whose left that can fuck madara up??? RS is the only one I can think of.


There's something else that's been bugging me lately about madara. Why can't he copy Edo Tensei? I mean:

1) He has the sharingan, so he should be able to copy the jutsu.

2) Kabuto showed him exactly how to do it. Every single step to it at that.

3) It doesn't appear to be an "elemental" based jutsu, so it's not like he lack the chakra type for it.


Something just is right about that. Or Kishi is a crappy writer. Yeah, that explains it.

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Senkradlol

Well then he knows it now..but who is he going to summon that Kabuto hasn't already? Plus he probably plans to be on the front lines soon and not hiding while controlling summons.

kael03

On top of the fact that the Rinnegan gives Madara access to all base elements plus yin and yang chakra.

liondemon

That I wonder. Sharingan eyes can see how to do other elemental jutsus but if the Sharingan user cannot use those elements then they cannot recreate that jutsu. Like how Sharingan cannot "copy" Bloodline abilities because their body doesnt have that necessary DNA and chakra to recreate their unique jutsu. Like how the 1st Sage had 1 son born with eye powers, and the other with only body powers. Having the Rinnegan is about having the eye and body powers to do their godly jutsus for as long and strong as a Rinnegan user's body can keep producing their unique chakra that made their eyes become the Rinnegan to begin with. I dont think Rinnegan is going to give Madara the access to all 5 elements and yin and yang chakra unless he can somehow combine his genes with Negatos like Yamato's genes are with the 1st Hokage.

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pitch-a-palooza

The sixth coffin doesnt necesarily havent to be someone strong, or even a ninja at that. It could be someone who knows secrets about madara, how his powers work, how to stop him. how to kill him so on and so forth, keep that in mind. As far as copying edo tensei, he will eventually

kael03

Databook says that it gives access to all 5 elements plus yin and yang.

Madara's gonna combine the copying ability of the Sharingan with the Rinnegan's ability to access the base elements of chakra.

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Doesn't really matter who he summons. It just the thought that madara doesn't trust kabuto at all. I sure he's expecting to be betrayed by kabuto at some point. Right now Kabuto's strength lies in his Golem army. If madara could use Edo Tensei himself, then he could summon up Golems of his own to counter Kabuto. Think of it as a safety net.

Plus Madara is way older then kabuto. This gives him an advantage in using Edo Tensei. He's seen many wars, and fought a whole bunch of ninja. Being from the same generation as the 1st hokage, he should know all about the prominent ninja's of his day. People like the 1st kages of the other 4 villages, prominent ninja clans that may have been completely annihilated long ago, and top tier ninjas in general. He could summon these guys up, and use their powers with ease, because he would know there powers from fighting them long ago. Some kid like Kabuto wouldn't know shit about them.

Your right. I had forgotten about Madara's Rinnegan. Then there really is no excuse for not being able to learn it.

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I already made a theory that Tobi forced kabuto to show him so he could use it, modify it and make an EDO body for himself so that he can put his ultimate eyes and consciousness in to become the ultimate shinobi....

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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....

ITACHI UCHIHA

jericho Uzimaki

1. Madara can't "copy" Edo Tensei because it is a summoning jutsu. He has to learn it.

2. the copying ability + yin yang/ all affinities ability of SG & RG = bad ass!!

3. Naruto beating Madara will prove what J-man said "it's not the number of jutsu that are the measure of a ninja. It is his heart."

4. think that maybe no more than 3 people are gonna die (prominent characters)
in this WAR. I mean really the present generation isn't going down so that leaves the previous one. Guy and Kakashi aren't or else they would have already. maybe Neji's Uncle, Kurenai is NOT in the WAR, Tsunade should/could be one, Tsuchikage is PAST his prime, and Raikage? hmmmm...


Tsuchikage dies who will be Kage?
A dies i guess Omoi will take it or Bee.(but i doubt that)
Tsunade makes room for Kakashi to take it.(then give it to Naruto)

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