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Old 04-12-2011, 09:05 AM   #871
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

You shouldn't use FTG in a comparison of physical speed, since FTG has nothing to do with speed.
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Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangastream
Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:38 AM   #872
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

Maybe we shouldn't compare what Naruto goes through with what Bee goes through!? As far as I can tell, it seems that the seal used on the Jinchuuriki has something to do with how they take chakra from their Bijuu. It's definitely true for Naruto and Bee. (I don't know about the others)
So maybe that's why Bee grows tails when using the Eight Tailed Beast's chakra and Naruto doesn't. We know far too little about this. I'm curious of what you think about this. If somebody already made a point about this, I'm sorry! I was gone for 4 months.
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:15 AM   #873
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

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You shouldn't use FTG in a comparison of physical speed, since FTG has nothing to do with speed.
It might not, and most probably will not, be FTG itself, but there could be a remote possibility that Minato incorporated some kind of Fuuinjutsu seal on the Shikhi Fuujin or the Key, which has led to the development/formation and acquisition of Naruto's new powers, his speed included. Though, it's nothing more than mere hypothesis until we are given further proof, which we never might, knowing Kishi...
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Maybe we shouldn't compare what Naruto goes through with what Bee goes through!? As far as I can tell, it seems that the seal used on the Jinchuuriki has something to do with how they take chakra from their Bijuu. It's definitely true for Naruto and Bee. (I don't know about the others)
So maybe that's why Bee grows tails when using the Eight Tailed Beast's chakra and Naruto doesn't. We know far too little about this. I'm curious of what you think about this. If somebody already made a point about this, I'm sorry! I was gone for 4 months.
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Yes, one cannot compare Naruto's and Bee's transformation as similar. This has been debated before. All other Jinks have worked in tandem with their Bijuus and the formation of that tag-team was what allowed them to transform into their giant Bijuu forms, while Naruto merely took away Kyuubi's chakra and not his will, hence the fact that he cannot transform into a giant nine tailed fox. That would have been possible if Kyuubi's will had consented to it, a scenario which is currently impossible. This concept was debated quite a bit back when it was first introduced in the chapter.
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

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You shouldn't use FTG in a comparison of physical speed, since FTG has nothing to do with speed.
It's true that they are apples and oranges, however, they have everything to do with speed.

The speed at which these techniques are performed is the whole point and they are constantly compared to each other throughout the manga and this forum. There is a stated speed comparison that goes something like this:

Minato(T/S)>Madara(T/S)>Naruto=/=Raikage, etc., etc.

KB made the statement that he saw a flash of yellow with Naruto's RS mode and called it a teleport technique. I'm not really getting a clear picture of how the term teleport is being used compared to T/S jutsu. I think I remember hearing that teleport is just speed, but I can't find the reference.

Raikage's speed is compared to the speed of light...is T/S jutsu simply exceeding the speed of light?

If Kishi would give the details on how summoning techniques work I think the mystery would be solved.
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^I guess I can concur with SD to an extent there because you are comparing Raikage's body enhancement mode - a la Sage Mode - with Minato's and Madara's T/S jutsu. At first I thought he was talking in general, though I understand now what he meant.
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

i actually think It would be cool IF Naruto figured a way to Summon the Fox when facing Madara. Like if there was a sort of Link between the fox and the seal.
Naruto touches his stomach where the seal is "hope this works."
"Bijuu summoning jutsu!" Everyone on the battle field look up in amazement as they all see a Giant nine tailed fox towering over everyone even Chouza.
Naruto stands on top of the fox almost out of sight."Alright you stupid fox,you like to fight you like destruction? Well this a WAR do not hurt anyone with headbands on like those guys!" He is pointing down at the alliance as they still look up not knowing what to do.
Fox, "what? I am free, how did you do this? Why?" Fox remembers Naruto's words "be patient with me" Then he suddenly looks down at his claws.

Fox in anger, "what the heel is this?! I am Orange!"
Naruto adds, "and black. We are still combined by chakra that seal on your stomach is the same as mine. Took me a while to understand it. But i put it all together. This seal was paced on me by my Dad it is the only one of it's kind. But i have seen parts of it before."
He flashes back to The Uzimaki crest on his back and the seal for summoning his Toads. "My mom said we Uzimaki were the best with seals, so i guess our clan crest is actually a foundation for our seals."
Fox "so why the hell am i like this and what shouldn't i kill you and everyone here?!"
Naruto, "cause we still follow the same rules, i die you die, but out here if you die i die too. You are that color because that is the natural color of my chakra and yours. It is a 80/20 divide, got that idea from my most recent teacher. That's kinda why you aren't raging and your calm enough to sit thru this conversation. because there is more of me in you than there is of you. But don't worry your still as strong as ever!"

Fox looking around at all the ninja, "well all be damn. The son of two of my most hated enemies gave me something no one even dared. Freedom, even if it is temporary. Well okay, now one more thing is this jutsu of yours a one time thing?"
Naruto grinning , Only if we die."
Fox roars, "okay now get off of my head, I'm not a fucking Toad!" He roars at the battlefield."If you on Naruto's side get out of my way!!
Alliance ninja scatter to escape the howling blasts and swings of his tails. The fox crushes the Zetsu Army.

Kakashi standing over a sealed Gedo. "well thats the last of them. Let's see if we can help the others."

Sakura, "Kakashi Sensei."
Kakashi, "hmmm?" she points at the fox in the distance.
Kakashi, "Naruto."

Okay thats my take.
I know NEVER HAPPEN.
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^The only problem with that is once the fox is free, he is susceptible to falling under the Sharingan's control. Hence, it is best if he stay trapped inside Naruto lest he wish for that to happen.
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^The only problem with that is once the fox is free, he is susceptible to falling under the Sharingan's control. Hence, it is best if he stay trapped inside Naruto lest he wish for that to happen.
I was gonna putting where the Unique seal and the fact they are STILL one that Genjutsu or such Doujutsu moves wouldn't work on either of them but i got lazy.
Naruto = 20% Fox/80% him
Fox=20%him/80% Naruto

So that being said both of them are in a chakra disruption kinda mode.
"Bijuu Summon Mode" if you will.(BS Mode...lol.)
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Yeah Madara, and Uchiha's seemingly has the Kyuubi as they're pet and can almost control him on a whim.
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Except Madara CAN'T control the Kyuubi anymore after Minato placed that seal on him and severed the genjutsu on the Kyuubi.
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I was gonna putting where the Unique seal and the fact they are STILL one that Genjutsu or such Doujutsu moves wouldn't work on either of them but i got lazy.
Naruto = 20% Fox/80% him
Fox=20%him/80% Naruto

So that being said both of them are in a chakra disruption kinda mode.
"Bijuu Summon Mode" if you will.(BS Mode...lol.)
You see that is where the problem is. Naruto cannot control the Kyuubi's mind... only its chakra. Summoning the Kyuubi once again gives Madara a chance to control its mind with his eye. That is where the problem arises. Unless Naruto and the Kyuubi can work something out together, something highly unlikely considering the developments higherto, then summoning it doesn't seem like a totally safe option.

Edit: @ Kael - I thought that seal was only to release it from Madara's control. I'm not sure if he can never control the Kyuubi. Note how Sasuke was able to suppress its chakra. I guess, if Madara cannot control it, then he can still try to suppress its power to negate the threat.
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You see that is where the problem is. Naruto cannot control the Kyuubi's mind... only its chakra. Summoning the Kyuubi once again gives Madara a chance to control its mind with his eye. That is where the problem arises. Unless Naruto and the Kyuubi can work something out together, something highly unlikely considering the developments higherto, then summoning it doesn't seem like a totally safe option.

Edit: @ Kael - I thought that seal was only to release it from Madara's control. I'm not sure if he can never control the Kyuubi. Note how Sasuke was able to suppress its chakra. I guess, if Madara cannot control it, then he can still try to suppress its power to negate the threat.
dammit fellas it is right in front of US!!!

This is why Tobdara wanted Itachi then Sasuke, cause he can't control the Fox anymore. That was a seal put on him by Minato probably a pretty high ranking seal user all things considered.
He got itachi to awaken his MS,but alas poor Itachi became ill, so NO need for him to be bothered anymore. so who is next? Oh wait he has a little brother that wants vengeance, perfect! So he gets him to awaken his MS then Manipulates him into getting EMS. (come on placing him the place
where Kages AND a samurai army are located? Yeah, okay.)

All he wants from sasuke is for him to employee his abilities onto the 9 tailed fox OR he has a theory that he will be able to control the 10 tails as well, after they are combined?

what do you guys think?!
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Edit: @ Kael - I thought that seal was only to release it from Madara's control. I'm not sure if he can never control the Kyuubi. Note how Sasuke was able to suppress its chakra. I guess, if Madara cannot control it, then he can still try to suppress its power to negate the threat.
According to Minato, the Kyuubi can't be controlled by Madara. Minato even said "now the Kyuubi is no longer yours to control". Though Madara did say he had other means at his disposal a few pages later.
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According to Minato, the Kyuubi can't be controlled by Madara. Minato even said "now the Kyuubi is no longer yours to control". Though Madara did say he had other means at his disposal a few pages later.
Hmm... yes. I remember that. Though the question is whether that seal was connected to control through his eyes or his blood in particular (not hinting at control through blood, just his blood). If it was the eyes, then that would explain why he needs a new set of eyes. This whole thing is a bit confusing.
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How does love sickness and us seeing everything thats going on outside contribute to him not knowing about any of it?
That's how it is.
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1.how about he cant sense anything outside the room, it took chakra as devilish as the kyuubi's for him to finally get a hint.2. hes a moron.
Funny. He senses Kisame hiding in Samehada which blended in with KB's chakra. The ELITE cloud couldn't sense Kisame.

Yes. Naruto can be a moron like all of us at times.

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seriously? rikudo mode cant sense shit in that room. and naruto has no idea whats going on, just look at the WTF look on his face when he runs outside and then sees iruka and co.
Yeah he in Rikudo mode he was training. He sensed The Gold and Silver brothers. But then again Iruka and co are fodder so RS mode doesn't pick up their chakra because they're weaklings.
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