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I'm also fairly certain, that even if Hiruzen decided not give his approval, the other 3 elders would have went over his head to the feudal lord and got it done anyway. I'm not sure if Danzo had any sway with the dude, but I'm fairly certain the other 2 "advisers" do.

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jericho Uzimaki

That's my point

reason"B" Madara being there was to make sure Danzou didn't let any real TRUTH out of the bag.

The whole Uchiha Massacre has been told from 2 people that had/have reason to lie.

Itachi, to make Sasuke hate him and become strong.
Madara to sway Sasuke to HIS side.

I know he was talking about Itachi, it was NOT a question.
I am saying that is the ONLY thing Danzo said. For all he knows Sasuke knew the whole truth!

Hokage was against it period, even if peace dealings failed he wouldn't stand by and let that happen. He would kick them out of the village first.

IMO the way we (fans and Naruto characters) see the Massacre isn't the truth.

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Gamble

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jericho Uzimaki

I dunno the Fuedel Lord seemed to not give a damn about village happenings. seeing as how he allowed (as well as the other Lords) a person of power to be named other than himself to rule the village with absolute power of decision.(Kage)

besides i don't see Danzo showing anyone a sign of weakness that they couldn't contain the Uchiha threat within their village.

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Gamble

Joshua the Rogue

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^Whether nor the Feudal lord cares about the village is debatable, but I can guarantee you he likes power. If the ninja village gets destroyed, he won't be in power long. He'll most likely be either dead, or living in exile.

As fickle as the dude has been shown to be, I can say with a fair amount of certainty, that if someone of good reputation (village elders) came to him and said "Hey, the Hokage is being real indecisive about this issue, and if we don't act quick we'll most likely all die from the consequences", and the fuedal lord would be like "Fuck that shit. Tell Hokage to get his ass in gear!!!", and that would be that.

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I know kishi is from japan and all and theres history, but I always found the whole feudal lords thing to be incredibly dumb and even unrealistic for the naruto world. I mean, you have god-like ninja, who are under a feudal lord that has no real power except for what you give him. I mean, for character like naruto, what is the feudal lord really going to do to him if he just starts to do whatver he wants?

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LOL I've always thought the same thing. The feudal lords could get their ass kick by ninja academy students, but the kages answer to them. LOL WTF!? It kinda makes you wonder why hasn't any kage just been like "Fuck you, I'm the boss now!!!" But hey, that's how the story is written. Just gotta go with it.

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jericho Uzimaki

what if one of the Lords come out and whop the shit outta Zetsu and show us levels above Kages?! Now that would be something to explain why everyone listens to them...lol.

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Gamble

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AOTKorby

Feudal lords have all the money. Ninjas need money. Therefore, Ninjas cater to the feudal lords.

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So why not have a coup d'etat and just take the money from them. It's not like it isn't possible amirite. I believe Kisame killed a whole bunch of feudal lords by himself before he left his village, so it's possible that a well organized group could have a successful coup, and take control.


I guess my real point is that whenever we hear of a group on ninja trying to overthrow a country (like Zabuza for example) its always in a situation where they seek to take over a ninja village. I guess being a Kage is cool and all, but it's still a position of limited power. They still have advisers and lords they have to agree with, which kinda sucks in a way. So why not just go straight-up communist and seize control of everything, and be THE BOSS, that answers to no one. That's what I'd do anyway.

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having money does give you power, until somebody puts a gun to your head. then that person has all of the power. Granted im looking at it from an american POV, but an elected congress of ninja, senators, etc would be the best way to go when ruling ninjas. That way, you dont have random rich people bossing you around.

jericho Uzimaki

i just had a thought. i was just reading where Naruto's shadow clone ran into Sasuke and Snake. My question is this. Why didn't anyone (or Naruto himself) say hey if you REALLY wanna find Sasuke why don't you multi-shadow clone? Then just have all 999 of them search the lands for him. matter of fact do 2000 and just think your clones might learn something useful along the way to bring back to you.

I know if all that info came rushing back he would get over whelmed or extremely tired. BUT who says they have to ALL come back at one time? It would be nice if he could develop a "clonepathy" that way they don't have t "die" to get back to him.

Only thing is if he did do a grand search like that he would have to stay home at the village. no missions for him or risk over doing his chakra.


i kinda see him being like that though, when people encounter him their not sure if it it is him or a clone. The Shadow Clone Hokage

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Gamble

Joshua the Rogue

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ninjalostboy95

^clonepathy is pretty cheap, really cheap. Naruto already gave himself a name, the orange hokage.

Thank you. The feudal lords actually own the land and allow the ninja villages to be built and give the hokage their power. The feudal lords fund the ninja villages and stuff and it would be stupid if you killed the feudal lords with a coup because you'd have to fund the money yourself and since you don't actually own the land, tough luck maintaining it. Not to mention the bad reputation you'll get as a traitor. It's better off leaving them alone.

jericho Uzimaki

Clonepathy= Clone telepathy. i was saying if he developed that he would be even more formidable. it would be like the 6 paths except he can make upwards of a thousand.

I was just saying IF he kept up his fighting style People would more than likely call him the Shadow Hokage or Shadow clone Hokage or something.
Like Neji said "it is your specialty"
he did use it to defeat "all mighty push"(yeah i got that from the game)
I mean he pretty much uses it in every fight. BUT now Kishi takes that away from him?!
In the beginning I invisioned Fox powered shadow clones then that bubble burst. Sage mode clones? NO> can we at least have RS clones?! NO, and he can't have regular clones either. No offense but i don't know how good Naruto is gonna be w/o them. his taijutsu is based on it as well as his jutsu!

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Gamble

Joshua the Rogue

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ninjalostboy95

I know what it is and I'm saying it would be cheap. It isn't hard to decipher that portmanteau.

He did have SM clones, he couldn't interfere with the ones gathering natural energy during the Pain fight. He took away shadow clones from RS Naruto to prevent making him OP'd. Naruto can do taijutsu good by himself(See God realm vs base Naruto when he floored God realm after he went SM.) He only uses taijutsu vs multiple opponents as shown in the Omoi and Karui skirmish.

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He had a lot of sage mode clones when he was fighting the kyubi I think.