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Old 05-19-2011, 03:39 PM   #991
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I was wondering that since you can summon people and things from anywhere(unless they are sealed in another dimension) is there a Summoning tech strong enough to create a contract w/ a Bijuu?

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Why not...if the user has enough chakra to be able to control the beast and if he can tame the beast i think it's possible...but you have to consider something...usually the animals summoned have a place in which they reside...i don't think a tailed beast has that place but maybe it doesn't matter
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Why not...if the user has enough chakra to be able to control the beast and if he can tame the beast i think it's possible...but you have to consider something...usually the animals summoned have a place in which they reside...i don't think a tailed beast has that place but maybe it doesn't matter
I thought of that.

But what if it was a contract between jink and Bijuu? he/she could summon the bijuu from inside then when they cancel it just goes back inside him/herself.
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Yeah but you have to consider some facts: that summuning would assume that the biju is removed from the jinchuriki...that goes with the jink's death....also the jink already has the biju's chakra and abilities...so he/she doesn't need to summon it...for example let's take pre-comtrol kyuubi Naruto...he couldn't tame the beast so him summoning the biju would only lead to the complete release of the kyuubi....on the other way theres bee...he is in full cooperation with 8tails so he doesn't need to summon it ....


New ideea: the 2 frog hermits couldn't merge with Naruto because of the kyuubi...but what about now? If the beast was tamed they should be able to merge with naruto and thus becoming a complete sennin....and also in the same time he could go kyuubi-mode and feeding nine tails with sennin chakra and thus not having his chakras consumed
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New ideea: the 2 frog hermits couldn't merge with Naruto because of the kyuubi...but what about now? If the beast was tamed they should be able to merge with naruto and thus becoming a complete sennin....and also in the same time he could go kyuubi-mode and feeding nine tails with sennin chakra and thus not having his chakras consumed
Naruto is a bit overpowered, if you remove the limit to his rikudo mode or sage mode then he is a lot overpowered. Sadly that will probably happen and he will be able to blast something big. I don't see why is that much chakra necessary, if he can fuse kyubi and nature energy then he can go fight saiyans.
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Yeah but you have to consider some facts: that summuning would assume that the biju is removed from the jinchuriki...that goes with the jink's death....also the jink already has the biju's chakra and abilities...so he/she doesn't need to summon it...for example let's take pre-comtrol kyuubi Naruto...he couldn't tame the beast so him summoning the biju would only lead to the complete release of the kyuubi....on the other way theres bee...he is in full cooperation with 8tails so he doesn't need to summon it ....


New ideea: the 2 frog hermits couldn't merge with Naruto because of the kyuubi...but what about now? If the beast was tamed they should be able to merge with naruto and thus becoming a complete sennin....and also in the same time he could go Kyuubi-mode and feeding nine tails with sennin chakra and thus not having his chakras consumed
I agree about the summoning of the Bijuu. Fact is if the Kyuubi is freed, he's just gonna end up being used again. If he reaches an agreement with Naruto, then he does not have to worry about being controlled anymore....

My new idea...since Naruto is the Shadow clone genius, he could also create a Kyuubi Clone and give the fox full control of the clone. The fox could do whatever it wanted to feel free (except rampaging), and I would get that cool Manga Panel that I've been hoping for of Naruto next to an Akamaru or slightly larger Kyuubi...badass.
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Re: Just a Thought THREAD

I don't think Naruto will lose the kyubi since it's a big part of his power now.
The way I see it, Naruto has several modes, more modes than any other character in the manga:

Base mode is his normal form.

Kyubi mode is when the complete kyubi chakra (together with kyubi mind) comes out and starts forming a kyuubi.

Rikudo mode is what he is presently using, it's basically purified kyuubi chakra (without kyuubi mind) that Naruto is using as his own to power his body and use as extra hands and stuff.

Sage mode is using the nature energy to power himself up.

Kyuubi sage mode happened at the end of Pein arc where Naruto was using sage mode and kyuubi chakra. We can guess that happened automatically that one time either because he was angry or because he exhausted his own chakra and started using the kyuubis as spare.

So that's 5 modes already.
We are waiting for rikudo sage mode to happen and ultimate sage/kyuubi hybrid where Naruto might combine all of kyuubi chakra with nature energy to create more energy. Menergy.
If there is one thing Naruto doesn't lack, it's energy and power up modes.
Also if like someone suggested, Naruto manages to combine rikudo and sage mode to remove the rikudo limit then he could make a lot of rikudo mode clones. Naruto is extremely fast in rikudo mode and with a lot of extremely fast clones he would become overpowered. Madara's time space instant transportation wouldn't be much of a problem for him to handle in a fight.
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I don't think Naruto will lose the kyubi since it's a big part of his power now.
The way I see it, Naruto has several modes, more modes than any other character in the manga:

Base mode is his normal form.

Kyubi mode is when the complete kyubi chakra (together with kyubi mind) comes out and starts forming a kyuubi.

Rikudo mode is what he is presently using, it's basically purified kyuubi chakra (without kyuubi mind) that Naruto is using as his own to power his body and use as extra hands and stuff.

Sage mode is using the nature energy to power himself up.

Kyuubi sage mode happened at the end of Pein arc where Naruto was using sage mode and kyuubi chakra. We can guess that happened automatically that one time either because he was angry or because he exhausted his own chakra and started using the kyuubis as spare.

So that's 5 modes already.
We are waiting for rikudo sage mode to happen and ultimate sage/kyuubi hybrid where Naruto might combine all of kyuubi chakra with nature energy to create more energy. Menergy.
If there is one thing Naruto doesn't lack, it's energy and power up modes.
Also if like someone suggested, Naruto manages to combine rikudo and sage mode to remove the rikudo limit then he could make a lot of rikudo mode clones. Naruto is extremely fast in rikudo mode and with a lot of extremely fast clones he would become overpowered. Madara's time space instant transportation wouldn't be much of a problem for him to handle in a fight.
the whole problem with that is when naruto is in rikudo mode the kyuubi is taking narutos chakra while naruto is taking his making a shadow clone means instant death if u did not remember.
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the whole problem with that is when naruto is in rikudo mode the kyuubi is taking narutos chakra while naruto is taking his making a shadow clone means instant death if u did not remember.
That's why i said that probably he will merge with the 2 frogs so he will have natural energy...that way his chakra will not be drained by kyuubi..i think that will be the next power-up because after all the struggle to learn sennin mode it just can't be forget right now...wewill probably see sennin rainbow naruto soon...but i am very anxious to see the degree of this rikudou mode...probably it will be another rasengan....maybe sasuke will bring something new with his ems but i doubt it
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the whole problem with that is when naruto is in rikudo mode the kyuubi is taking narutos chakra while naruto is taking his making a shadow clone means instant death if u did not remember.
I know, I think it will stay that way to make it balanced because rikudo mode Naruto is as fast as raikage or gated Gai so rikudo mode Naruto with lots of clones would win against anyone really fast and that is the reason why Kishimoto gave him that limit.


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That's why i said that probably he will merge with the 2 frogs so he will have natural energy...that way his chakra will not be drained by kyuubi..i think that will be the next power-up because after all the struggle to learn sennin mode it just can't be forget right now...wewill probably see sennin rainbow naruto soon...but i am very anxious to see the degree of this rikudou mode...probably it will be another rasengan....maybe sasuke will bring something new with his ems but i doubt it
Maybe he can now merge with the frogs to enter sage mode and make it last longer, but I don't think he will be able to stop his chakra from being drained by the kyuubi when he is in rikudo mode for one reason - when Naruto enters sage mode he still uses his own chakra, it's just extra powered with nature energy. So kyuubi would still eat his chakra, even if it has nature energy mixed in it.
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New ideea: the 2 frog hermits couldn't merge with Naruto because of the kyuubi...but what about now? If the beast was tamed they should be able to merge with naruto and thus becoming a complete sennin....and also in the same time he could go kyuubi-mode and feeding nine tails with sennin chakra and thus not having his chakras consumed
Sage chakra might taste bad for the kyuubi u know...
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I was wondering that since you can summon people and things from anywhere(unless they are sealed in another dimension) is there a Summoning tech strong enough to create a contract w/ a Bijuu?

Just wondering.
shodai aka first hokage nuff said.

@k-lai kyuubi would turn to a frog statue if he tried eating sage chakra. if im not mistaken.
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@k-lai kyuubi would turn to a frog statue if he tried eating sage chakra. if im not mistaken.
I don't think that would happen and if that could happen, then how would that work since kyuubi doesn't have a body while he is inside Naruto, just some chakra and mind to speak to Naruto. So I don't see how could he turn to stone.
The other thing is I think that only happens if you take too much nature energy and don't mix it with your own chakra. Kyuubi has a lot more chakra than naruto so it might be able to handle nature energy naruto collects.
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Random thought:

What if madara is telling the truth about the juubi having a body and its in the moon. Unreachable by anyone so even if madara revives the spirit by combining its pieces in the Gedo Mazo, it will still be incomplete and unable to revive.

How does madara revive the 10tails then with a not full power spirit of the juubi with no body? I believe madara already found a way thanks to Kabuto. Yea, maybe Edo tensai can be used on a bijuu with a body.

Madara would just need to complete the spirit in the gedo mazo then use a juubi sized sacrifice like a boss summon for the vessel. And all these dead summons couldve been madaras previous experiments to use a different body then the original for the juubis revival.http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...0/page008.html

Granted the basic ET summons a soul from the pure world into the Impure using a living body as a vessle. However, a simple variation of drawing a spirit from a spirit already in the Impure world into a living vessle cant be that hard to create IMO.

IDK, random thought about what madara might be up to learning edo tensai from kabuto and now using the bit of the hachibis chakra and kyuubi from kin and gin to revive the juubi spirit. Like I said, random thought.
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Random thought:

What if madara is telling the truth about the juubi having a body and its in the moon. Unreachable by anyone so even if madara revives the spirit by combining its pieces in the Gedo Mazo, it will still be incomplete and unable to revive.

How does madara revive the 10tails then with a not full power spirit of the juubi with no body? I believe madara already found a way thanks to Kabuto. Yea, maybe Edo tensai can be used on a bijuu with a body.

Madara would just need to complete the spirit in the gedo mazo then use a juubi sized sacrifice like a boss summon for the vessel. And all these dead summons couldve been madaras previous experiments to use a different body then the original for the juubis revival.http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...0/page008.html

Granted the basic ET summons a soul from the pure world into the Impure using a living body as a vessle. However, a simple variation of drawing a spirit from a spirit already in the Impure world into a living vessle cant be that hard to create IMO.

IDK, random thought about what madara might be up to learning edo tensai from kabuto and now using the bit of the hachibis chakra and kyuubi from kin and gin to revive the juubi spirit. Like I said, random thought.
That's an interesting thought, but I don't think that will be necessary for Madara to do because of one reason - those tailed beasts can recreate their body from chakra/energy so I think juubi will just make it's own body or something similar to that.
In think in naruto world chakra means energy (plus soul?), and chakra can transform into material.
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