TheSixthHokage

I would say our world is just as bad we have a communist (arguably fascist) regime in China and North Korea, fundamentalist Islam is growing like a weed throughout the Muslim world, Africa is torn up by war and epidemic (HIV-AIDS) and Europe has renounced even positive intervention, rather ironic for a continent that enslaved the world and refuses to make up for it. Israel and Palestine are pitted in a war that may never end and Western countries are increasingly being overocome by radical debt... the Narutoverse may actually be better than ours...

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superninja

^Don't forget the USA, the biggest military force of our world.

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freedom07

hmm whilst they have ninjas, pain and tailed beasts ...we have guns, nucleur weapons and used to have george bush...i get where your coming from...that list of things u mentioned...there will always be inequalities in the world, for one nation to be rich like usa others have to be poor ...dieseases are inevitable..im sure they have thir share of diseases in the narutoverse...but with modern techonology and greater knowledge we are improving.

society would be much harder to control...justice systems and prisons would fail ...if we have everyone in this world runnign around with fireball jutsus and shinrai tenseis

nice debate ...i like this

TheSixthHokage

Technically, justice systems and prisons'd work just as they do know since we'd have the police as shinobi-hunters and prison guards as experienced ninja themselves. It'd balance out I'd assume.

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emachina

The tragic flaw of Pain and Naruto is that both believe that peace can come about. Sadly peace will never be possible. There will always be those out there trying to screw the system. Could we get to a world where massive military wars are a thing of the past? Possibly. But there will always be forces acting against the status quo, for whatever reason. Maybe they want a bigger piece of the world's pie. Maybe they have aversions to authority. Who knows? In fact, discontent arise more when all basic wants and needs are provided for, than in situations where they are not. In my opinion, at least.

My best example are all these urban "anarchist" kids who march in protest at every G8 meeting. Most of these kids are from middle to upper class families who don't have to worry about going hungry or sleeping on the street. Because of that, they spend all their time finding things to piss and moan about and go out to create conflict in the world because their lives are too boring for them. Not saying some guy half way across the world whose starving isn't pissed off at his situation. But so many people in America have it so good, compared to the rest of the world, they have to find something, anything to bitch about. And that also leads to violence.

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TheSixthHokage

Not the biggest, the most powerful and well-funded, yes. China and North Korea both boast more manpower in their militaries, but do not have the technology the US armed forces have (thankfully).

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superninja

Dude, why do we need such huge military expenses? People think that the world wars are a thing of the past, but we have the most advanced weapons today. Every country in the world spends a lot on weapon technology.
Who are we going to fight against?
For what resource will the new wars be fought?
Some say it's the water... I don't know, how about you invest all that money into improving water technology madafakas?

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TheSixthHokage

Didn't you read my post before? We have fundamentalist Islam that rejects freedom of religion and most, if not all liberal democratic values, we have dictatorships throughout Africa and an emerging, quasi-fascist China as well as the possible nuclear-armed rogue states of Iran and North Korea... not so sure that it's ever a bad thing to be able to level the other guy before he thinks about doing it to you.

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superninja

That is true. Even though I think USA could have made friends and not enemies with some countries, China is definitely strong enough to be taken seriously.
But, just know that the USA had the power to change the world positively, but didn't. Instead they made a lot of enemies for themselves. But those enemies were no match for the USA. China however is the most serious threat to you because China is powerful. The irony is - USA didn't do any injustice to China.

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TheSixthHokage

The only problem I have with this post is everyone holds America accountable to her mistakes but China, Russia, wherever else almost, they can have a free ride. America gets more moral condemnation for its CIA interrogration techniques then the fact you can be beheaded as a non-Muslim in about 85% of the Muslim World... gotta love selective memory.

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manta

I see this manga as a Rouroni Kenshin style ending where there are no more ninja by law and NaruHina will live far away in the forest in peace. Impossible because of cool powers but you never know.

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emachina

You don't make friends with mad men. Neville Chamberlin made nice, nice with the Axis and he even got a signed areement from Hitler that Hitler would be a nice boy if Europe surrendered a whole lot of land to him. And, if you overlook that whole World War 2 thing, I guess it was a success.

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superninja

You have a point there, so I guess the USA is the lesser of two evils.

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emachina

No, we're just a nation, just like every other nation in the history of the world. We have moments that are something to be proud of, and moments of great shame. Just like everyone else. I'm sure China is proud of the fact they were the country that invented paper, but I'm sure they're not overly proud of some of the detestable thing Ghengis Khan did. Rome had engineering marvels, but lined major highway with crucified bodies. Great Britain has more historic highs than I can count, but also a history of imperialistic class warfare. We're just a nation.

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Konnaha_yellow_flash

IMO, wether its ninja system, samurai system, merchant system ect are all imperfect, but at least its a system. No matter what system is employed, there will be violence, there will be pain and there will be war. for the simple reason we are human, not machines driven by logic. And as humans, we are destined to have logic overcome by our emotions, thus making such a thing as war possible. So, how is any system going to bring peace without war? IMO, you cannot stop conflict from happeneing, you can only be there to Oppose it.

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Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....

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