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Old 03-26-2009, 05:22 PM   #16
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Re: Susanoo vs Shinra Tensei (large scale version) or even Chibaku Tensei

SusieQ seems kind of unfair. Wouldn't strike me as surprising if Itachi died with that technique rather than pass it on.
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Old 03-26-2009, 06:43 PM   #17
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Re: Susanoo vs Shinra Tensei (large scale version) or even Chibaku Tensei

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Gravity is the product of mass such as an ass load of elements creating a planet that causes the attractive force of gravity.

However, you are right, the DB stated that coporeal"physical" as well as noncorporeal"nonphysical" attacks would be deflected. So sasanoo wins!
dude physics are the same for everyone
gravity is an attractive force, a natural phenomenon !
it is there, it has alway been, and it's going to stay there 4ever
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:03 PM   #18
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Re: Susanoo vs Shinra Tensei (large scale version) or even Chibaku Tensei

well..shinra tensei isnt always there unlike gravity because he has that 5 second interval

also since shinra tensei has been beaten by naruto

and susanoo remains unbeated and is said to negate all attack i guess susanoo wins until further proof is provided
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:14 PM   #19
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Re: Susanoo vs Shinra Tensei (large scale version) or even Chibaku Tensei

Naruto didn't deflect or beat ST, he tanked it. He anchored himself to the ground with his tails and the pressure that built up between him and Deva bounced back away from Naruto and towards Deva.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:55 AM   #20
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Naruto didn't deflect or beat ST, he tanked it. He anchored himself to the ground with his tails and the pressure that built up between him and Deva bounced back away from Naruto and towards Deva.
You're right, at least from what I re-read through that chapter. Naruto's tails seem rammed into the floor and Deva only claims "The Fox's power is amazing."
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:06 AM   #21
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dude physics are the same for everyone
gravity is an attractive force, a natural phenomenon !
it is there, it has alway been, and it's going to stay there 4ever

i realy dont care if some random uchiha fanboy accepts/rejects this.
i have done my job of trying to explain.
Your a whinny little narutard, you know that!

Anyways, Gravity is incorporeal and since the DB stated sasanoo can block incorporeal attacks "Garvity", sasanoo wins!

And the DB also said that sasanoo has element modifying capabilites so it can adapt and counter any element. So, deva uses ST to push itachi, sasanoo uses earth style to ground itachi like the 6tail kyuubi did to against deva, countering the attack while sending deva flying. And the same for BT. Sasanoo can just use earth style to ground itachi which should counter while pulling deva to sasanoo instead.
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:48 AM   #22
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Re: Susanoo vs Shinra Tensei (large scale version) or even Chibaku Tensei

susano anchors things ?
susano uses earth to anchor itachi ??
do you even understand what you have just said ???
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earth is not used to anchor youself to something lol
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this is how you anchor to something
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:59 AM   #23
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susano anchors things ?
susano uses earth to anchor itachi ??
do you even understand what you have just said ???
earth is not used to anchor youself to something lol
see this is how you anchor to something
oops, your right, I was thinking of the right style, but the wrong variation. OK, using earth syle, sasanoo can increase in density getting harder "Gigity" while getting extremly heavy like how kakuzu uses earth style. By adding more and more desity, itachi will get heavier and heavier.

Or, since sasanoo is a giant mass of chakra, it could just anchor itself using just chakra like shinobi do when climbing trees. "thanks for that one".
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:46 AM   #24
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Re: Susanoo vs Shinra Tensei (large scale version) or even Chibaku Tensei

Itachi will be dead before Pain need to use CHibaku Tensei...Pain win!!
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Re: Susanoo vs Shinra Tensei (large scale version) or even Chibaku Tensei

Pain with all of his bodies > Itachi.
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Re: Susanoo vs Shinra Tensei (large scale version) or even Chibaku Tensei

Does it say that Shinra Tensei is a gravity based jutsu? Also, if it is a gravity based jutsu then why does Pain even bother gathering all that crap to kill you, why not just pin you down and increase the gravity til you are squashed? If he can do that then i say Pain wins but if not and it is another type of jutsu then Susanoo wins.
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Re: Susanoo vs Shinra Tensei (large scale version) or even Chibaku Tensei

Why is this even up for debate? Susano'o reflects ALL attacks. Shinra Tensei is an attack. It shall get reflected.
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:11 PM   #28
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Re: Susanoo vs Shinra Tensei (large scale version) or even Chibaku Tensei

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Naruto didn't deflect or beat ST, he tanked it. He anchored himself to the ground with his tails and the pressure that built up between him and Deva bounced back away from Naruto and towards Deva.
no naruto in kyuubi mode didn't get effected cause the jutsu isn't powerful enough...



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The reason why Susano-o is boasted to be flawless in both offense and defence is due to the "spiritual equipments" held in both hands. The right hand wields the Totsukano Tsurugi sword that can bring down any enemies; the left hand holds the Yatano Kagami (Eight Span Mirror), which can repel all attacks. Be it physical or spiritual, ninjutsu or physical attacks, all these become futile in front of such godly effects.
nothing about repelling sound or air or jutsu that have no physical attributes.

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Re: Susanoo vs Shinra Tensei (large scale version) or even Chibaku Tensei

One of the things Susano'o reflects is ninjutsu. ST is ninjutsu. Hell, it's an attack. It will get reflected.
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no naruto in kyuubi mode didn't get effected cause the jutsu isn't powerful enough...
I agree Shinra Tensei to the kyuubi was like a small breeze lol. Just goes to hsow how strong the kyuubi is when shinra tensei leveled three toads the size of mountains.
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