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Old 03-27-2009, 05:23 PM   #31
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One of the things Susano'o reflects is ninjutsu. ST is ninjutsu. Hell, it's an attack. It will get reflected.
its not physical all techniques that require chakra molding are called ninjutsu lol, shinera tensei is air pushed at u thats all lol.
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its not physical all techniques that require chakra molding are called ninjutsu lol, shinera tensei is air pushed at u thats all lol.
Susano'o is stated to reflect all attacks. That, alone, should close the argument. It's also stated to reflect ninjutsu, which Shinra Tensei is. Again, what is there to discuss?
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Susano'o is stated to reflect all attacks. That, alone, should close the argument. It's also stated to reflect ninjutsu, which Shinra Tensei is. Again, what is there to discuss?
all attacks doesn't mean things that aren't physical or have no physical attributes...

also i honeslty don't care im just bored lol.
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ANd I quote:while the "Mirror of Yata" in his left hand rejects any attack. Material, incorporeal, ninjutsu, physical attacks: all these have no meaning in front of the god."


ANy attack including noncorporeal "nonphysical" like gravity, genjutsu ect!
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:30 PM   #35
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all attacks doesn't mean things that aren't physical or have no physical attributes...

also i honeslty don't care im just bored lol.
Hey, take that up with Kishi. If what you're theorizing is true, then Kishi needs to elaborate more on Susano'os limitations. Otherwise, well, yeah. There's nothing to discuss.

Make a Sasuke vs Naruto fight in the Versus thread. xD That should draw in some attention.
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:43 PM   #36
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Hey, take that up with Kishi. If what you're theorizing is true, then Kishi needs to elaborate more on Susano'os limitations. Otherwise, well, yeah. There's nothing to discuss.

Make a Sasuke vs Naruto fight in the Versus thread. xD That should draw in some attention.
kishi always seems to not elaborate on things he writes



nah im afraid kyf will come in and pawn all plus sauske and naruto are wack neji is the bad ass with the super kaiten also minato and jiraiya aren't even that smart "iq" level wise
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nah im afraid kyf will come in and pawn all plus sauske and naruto are wack neji is the bad ass with the super kaiten also minato and jiraiya aren't even that smart "iq" level wise
I know. Don't you love it when he does that? And when he sometimes contradicts himself?

I really hope those aren't things he's stated/implied before. Sasuke & Naruto are great ninjas. Neji is your average Jounin, with a doujutsu and great taijutsu. Minato was one of the best geniuses ever. And Jiraiya....well okay, he was a dirty old man.
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I know. Don't you love it when he does that? And when he sometimes contradicts himself?

I really hope those aren't things he's stated/implied before. Sasuke & Naruto are great ninjas. Neji is your average Jounin, with a doujutsu and great taijutsu. Minato was one of the best geniuses ever. And Jiraiya....well okay, he was a dirty old man.

yes kishi loves to contradict himself he's done so much throughout the manga.







please he never said that he just said that jiraiya and minato weren't "iq level" smart whatever the fuk that means... whats more funny is he agrees minato was intelligent hell it was stated he was a once in a decade genius, yet he says he wasn't iq smart at all neither was jiraiya... the funniest thing is he says iq means ones intelligence.. yet he said minato wasn't iq smart rofllll i pput him on the ignore list so i can't see his crap no more lol.

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Myth, your a whinny little girl, lol. i cant prove my oppinion so I go around running my mouth, B-O-O-H-O-O!

LMAO, maybe naruto will kill everyone in the village because they deserve it for how they treated him, right myth. Or SM naruto could use his super speed to turn back time like superman in the movie and then beat itachi before he pulls out sasanoo, lol.


BOT: Sasanoo pwns all, not Kaiten, lol. The DB says it can reflect any attack then there!


EDIT:^^^B-O-O-h-O-O! LMAO....... If your going to critisie me, at least quote what i actually said, lol.
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:59 PM   #40
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please he never said that he just said that jiraiya and minato weren't "iq level" smart whatever the fuk that means...
I think he may mean book smart, like Sakura. Or being able to plan ahead 200 steps during a fight (which is BS) like Shikamaru. I don't know if that's true, as Kishi has never stated that Minato and Jiraiya were geniuses in that aspect. However, does being book smart matter in their cases? Jiraiya was a beast. And Minato was a legend.

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whats more funny is he agrees minato was intelligent hell it was stated he was a once in a decade genius, yet he says he wasn't iq smart at all neither was jiraiya...
Oh. After that, now I'm pretty sure he meant they're not book smart. Which, doesn't matter. I'd happily keep Jiraiya and Minato they way they were and keep their intelligence levels where they were instead of making them seriously weaker, but having read several books.

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the funniest thing is he says iq means ones intelligence.. yet he said minato wasn't iq smart rofllll i pput him on the ignore list so i can't see his crap no more lol.
I'd love to know how he knows what Minato's IQ level was, or Jiraiya's IQ level. I mean, unless he's Kishi, then his assumptions are baseless.
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I think he may mean book smart, like Sakura. Or being able to plan ahead 200 steps during a fight (which is BS) like Shikamaru. I don't know if that's true, as Kishi has never stated that Minato and Jiraiya were geniuses in that aspect. However, does being book smart matter in their cases? Jiraiya was a beast. And Minato was a legend.

Oh. After that, now I'm pretty sure he meant they're not book smart. Which, doesn't matter. I'd happily keep Jiraiya and Minato they way they were and keep their intelligence levels where they were instead of making them seriously weaker, but having read several books.

I'd love to know how he knows what Minato's IQ level was, or Jiraiya's IQ level. I mean, unless he's Kishi, then his assumptions are baseless.
thats just it only shikas iq was mentioned he's going by jiraiya saying that he isn't a genjutsu type because genjutsu users have to be very intelligent when we all know jiraiya was intelligent... he can't fathom the part where if u aren't a genjutsu type of fighter u can't use genjutsu cause its a waste of time..

Btw minato was called a once in a decade talent and genius book smart? he created 3 of the deadliest jutsu in the manga with a 4th left to naruto lol.. he was book smart im sure.

i know his stuff is basless but guess what the difference between him and I is that he never makes stuff up......................

edit: i find it funny how he keeps replying he's on the ignore list so anything he writes i can't see anyways... this ignore list is amazing i used it before but this time its better.

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I think he may mean book smart, like Sakura. Or being able to plan ahead 200 steps during a fight (which is BS) like Shikamaru. I don't know if that's true, as Kishi has never stated that Minato and Jiraiya were geniuses in that aspect. However, does being book smart matter in their cases? Jiraiya was a beast. And Minato was a legend.

Oh. After that, now I'm pretty sure he meant they're not book smart. Which, doesn't matter. I'd happily keep Jiraiya and Minato they way they were and keep their intelligence levels where they were instead of making them seriously weaker, but having read several books.

I'd love to know how he knows what Minato's IQ level was, or Jiraiya's IQ level. I mean, unless he's Kishi, then his assumptions are baseless.
just going to clear som stuff up.

Lol, myths just crying because he though he could prove that an IQ isnt based off of Intelligence, however, he just had a mod and a couple others make fun of him, lmao.

Anyways, i used IQ as a reference for intelligence when talking about Jman and minato. however, Myth thinks Genious in the narutoverse always equals high intelligence or a high IQ as reference, lol. Yet, lee was a genious for his persitance, neji was a genious for his taijutsu ect ect.

Lol, I wonder how skewed my so called words get by the end of the day, lol.
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thats just it only shikas iq was mentioned he's going by jiraiya saying that he isn't a genjutsu type because genjutsu users have to be very intelligent when we all know jiraiya was intelligent...
Wow. Seriously? Because Jiraiya doesn't personally use genjutsu himself, he has to be not intelligent? Yet he's intelligent enough to dispel genjutsu from the genjutsu king (Itachi). And one of the most powerful genjutsu in the series is also at his disposal in HM.....he doesn't do it himself, but his summons do, which are part of his moveset.

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he can't fathom the part where if u aren't a genjutsu type of fighter u can't use genjutsu cause its a waste of time..
That's, kinda stupid.

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Btw minato was called a once in a decade talent and genius book smart? he created 3 of the deadliest jutsu in the manga with a 4th left to naruto lol.. he was book smart im sure.
It's interesting. We've seen what Shikamaru can do against an idiot like Hidan. We've also seen Shikamaru run like a bitch from Kakuzu. I really doubt Minato or Jiraiya would run from Kakuzu, and they'd dispatch Hidan quickly.

Wait wait. But Minato and Jiraiya most likely don't have Shikamaru's IQ, so they'd just get owned, right?

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Erm, that's what it means. Neji is a genius because he's intelligent and talented in a taijutsu/battle sense. Same with Lee.

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Wow. Seriously? Because Jiraiya doesn't personally use genjutsu himself, he has to be not intelligent? Yet he's intelligent enough to dispel genjutsu from the genjutsu king (Itachi). And one of the most powerful genjutsu in the series is also at his disposal in HM.....he doesn't do it himself, but his summons do, which are part of his moveset.

That's, kinda stupid.

It's interesting. We've seen what Shikamaru can do against an idiot like Hidan. We've also seen Shikamaru run like a bitch from Kakuzu. I really doubt Minato or Jiraiya would run from Kakuzu, and they'd dispatch Hidan quickly.

Wait wait. But Minato and Jiraiya most likely don't have Shikamaru's IQ, so they'd just get owned, right?
yes minato and jiraiya re not iq level smart there brains didn't invent anything special at all

thank u mikey i tried explaining yesterday that genius in naruto means book smart as well as talented, especially when for mianto jiraiya separated them both saying " he was a GENIUS with Talent u would find once in a decade a t best"

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This will clear some things up!http://onemanga.com/Naruto/259/09/

Stated by Jman, so shut up myth. Go cry a River, lol!


EDIT: I didnt say anything about Jman or minato being dumb, just Myth,lol.

Lee, Neji, sasuke ect are all geniouses, however, they do not have high intelligence "4,5, 5.0 even". And Lee was said to be a genious because of his persitance, not intelligence.
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