Naruto 442 predictions/spoiler discussions - Page 59

lamps123 · 04-02-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frog_Hermit

dont agree, naruto dont need to work with others, he took 6ppl that work perfect together and he beat them all by himself,

if u think about it, there are some shinobi that just cant work in team because they are to strong, there is nobody in konoha that can work with naruto and that naruto dont need to worry about (maybe just kakashi) and fear that he will kill them with rasenshuriken or something

sasuke too does not need a team because they hold him back, he almoust burn one of his own with amaterasu last time, it is posible that KB escape because sasuke was trying to stop amaterasu so he didnt notice, and why do u think in begining of fight against KB sasuke was leting his team attack and then they let him attack ALONE?

orochimaru and jiraiya didnt need team...

all hokages (except tsunade) were strong enough so that they wouldnt need a team..

itachi had kisame but two of them never fight at the same time, we saw that itachi let kisame fight jinchuriki alone

there is whole bunch of ppl that dont need team, ppl that are so strong that other would just get in a way, working with others is skill that naruto dont need, that is exactly why naruto could become hokage soon - he can fight alone!

and after all this things will become hard for konoha and they will need someone that they could depend on, someone who can take care of himself, and naruto maybe didnt show that he is to reliable but he find out one of most important things and that is who is his father, now more than ever he will try to be like him...

i belive that this fight naruto vs pain was turning point in story, till now naruto was always attackin recklessly and kakashi was many times one that was figuring out enemy abilitys and all, i think now naruto will do that, now he can handle strong opponents, beside only the strongest of akatsuki has left anyway...

^_^

i love your points theres nothing much for me to say again.

lamps123 · 04-02-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Magus Vulpes

and as so many have stated, naruto isn't ready to become hokage. yes he most certainly is strong enough to be it, and yes others during this fight would have only dragged him down, but the fact remains that naruto isn't a skilled tactician, which is something all the past hokages have had in common due to necessity.

that said, naruto's future as hokage is cemented here now though, with knowing who his dad is he will push himself even harder than before, maybe create a few justus that only someone with his chakra levels can do, but he still isn't ready.

it is true that he isn't the best team player, but he understands the value of others. even as early as the zabuza, fight naruto showed skill in his shadow clone use and understanding that his team mates are valuable when he and sasuke pulled the shadow windmill. a move that revealed he understands the strength of a team.

so he is on the road for that. he's definitely not a genin level on teamwork, and not a jounin or hokage level either, lacking the experience by this point, seeing as how while all the other leaf were doing missions and learning how to work together, he was off with only jiraiya doing one-on-one training, so he has some catching up to do.

but with his shadow clones, that shouldn't be too long, right? lol

yh i understand all the tactics and all but look at gaara he didnt have all those qqualities,he became kazekage purely cos he was strongest,and it was naruto himself that put him on the right path.

lamps123 · 04-02-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoKakarott023

Fighting against Pein = mature, giving in to the Kyuubi stopped by Minato = immature. In the anime as well dosen't follow orders = immature. All of this = at best his attitude is Chuunin not Jounin in my personal opinion. Jounin's can direct many people at the same time not just "Get back and let me do everything with my shadow clones Naruto"

please next time say i think naruto is immature dont say naruto is immature remember its your bloody opinion so remember to put the 'i think' in quote.thnks

TheSixthHokage · 04-02-2009, 07:55 PM

Naruto was immature -- the battle against Pain proves he has grown phenomenally, particularly in strategy. In my mind, he is definitely ready for Chuunin rank, though with his power it doesn't even matter.

liondemon · 04-02-2009, 07:55 PM

Giving into Kyuubi was immature cuz what grown ass man, shinobi, would not try to fight the beast, that he is supposed to have at least some control over, that will destroy anything and everything it sees, and it's undefeatable, only sealable and tamable by Madara and 1st Hokage? He didnt even tell Kyuubi to stop. He was all like, "oh no Im too stupid, untalented and I dont have an answer" "Kyuubi what's yours?" Dont get me wrong, I love him like my own son. Me and naruto go back to when the boi was still in diapers, but that was very immature of him regardless of anything. Anything. Never give up.

Jiraiya came back from the dead with important info for Konoha. Itachi lived the life as a bad guy, just to protect Konoha and Sasuke, and he was probably the kindest soul u could ever meet, at heart. He died to allow Sasuke to live stronger as an Uchiha and hopefully rid the world of Madara with Naruto someday. Kakashi gave his life to protect Choji so the detail about the 5 sec opening could be sent. Noble too, especially since that is the only reason Naruto just killed this last body because he planned around that 5 second mark. Sarutobi is a given. Mionato is a given. Naruto went out like a boi, regardless the circumstances, and his Boiness could have cost the lives of Villagers, potentially the whole shinobi world, and possiblby his own life. U can never give up, and naruto lives by that, but he gave up when it mattered the most. Now konowing his father is watching, he will never be a Boi again. We are about to start seeing a more mature Naruto. Still Naruto, just not so "kid like". The Boi had to know and love his father to become a man. Now he will strive to become the son his loving father expects him to be. He was missing something for him to truly become the man he was meant to be so Kishi held him back until he was ready to reveal who his father was to him.

Sakura is still Sakura but usually behaves, thinks and reacts differently in certain ways than she did as a child. Sasuke too. Naruto has matured on the battlefield, but on a social and personal level, he is the same Naruto that went away 2.5 years ago. Shika asked and Sakura told him and she was right. Exact same ol Naruto except on the battlefield. Sweet 16 baby.
Just think how some of u males changed aropund puberty, for those who have made it there. But U dont really consider the present so much until u get to the future and look back and can see the difference between u or someone now and u or someone then.LALALALALALALALA!

Spiegel · 04-02-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSixthHokage

Naruto was immature -- the battle against Pain proves he has grown phenomenally, particularly in strategy. In my mind, he is definitely ready for Chuunin rank, though with his power it doesn't even matter.

Yes, he's been shown several times that he has been improving making stategic decisions based on the variables surrounding him and analyzing before jumping in.

lamps123 · 04-02-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by liondemon

Giving into Kyuubi was immature cuz what grown ass man, shinobi, would not try to fight the beast, that he is supposed to have at least some control over, that will destroy anything and everything it sees, and it's undefeatable, only sealable and tamable by Madara and 1st Hokage? He didnt even tell Kyuubi to stop. He was all like, "oh no Im too stupid, untalented and I dont have an answer" "Kyuubi what's yours?" Dont get me wrong, I love him like my own son. Me and naruto go back to when the boi was still in diapers, but that was very immature of him regardless of anything. Anything. Never give up.

Jiraiya came back from the dead with important info for Konoha. Itachi lived the life as a bad guy, just to protect Konoha and Sasuke, and he was probably the kindest soul u could ever meet, at heart. He died to allow Sasuke to live stronger as an Uchiha and hopefully rid the world of Madara with Naruto someday. Kakashi gave his life to protect Choji so the detail about the 5 sec opening could be sent. Noble too, especially since that is the only reason Naruto just killed this last body because he planned around that 5 second mark. Sarutobi is a given. Mionato is a given. Naruto went out like a boi, regardless the circumstances, and his Boiness could have cost the lives of Villagers, potentially the whole shinobi world, and possiblby his own life. U can never give up, and naruto lives by that, but he gave up when it mattered the most. Now konowing his father is watching, he will never be a Boi again. We are about to start seeing a more mature Naruto. Still Naruto, just not so "kid like". The Boi had to know and love his father to become a man. Now he will strive to become the son his loving father expects him to be. He was missing something for him to truly become the man he was meant to be so Kishi held him back until he was ready to reveal who his father was to him.

Sakura is still Sakura but usually behaves, thinks and reacts differently in certain ways than she did as a child. Sasuke too. Naruto has matured on the battlefield, but on a social and personal level, he is the same Naruto that went away 2.5 years ago. Shika asked and Sakura told him and she was right. Exact same ol Naruto except on the battlefield. Sweet 16 baby.
Just think how some of u males changed aropund puberty, for those who have made it there. But U dont really consider the present so much until u get to the future and look back and can see the difference between u or someone now and u or someone then.LALALALALALALALA!

all the same that why we say he has matured cos he has learnt from experience,his father stop him from doing it so dont u think he has learnt frm dat nd wudnt try it again
i dont actually blame him if i was the one i wud hav let the beast out since i mean look at his childhood cos of the beast even at ur age now if u r not that yong wat wud u hv done.

NeoKakarott023 · 04-02-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kakashi87

Why would you say that giving into the Kyuubi was immature? He was going to a hell of an experience with what Pain killing everyone he is close too. Anyone at any level of "maturity" would have succumbed if it meant less pain for you to endure. As for directing people well that takes experience and/or is a natural ability like Shikamaru and Neji. Jiraiya used to be like Naruto when he was younger but as you can see now he is able to lead and train less experienced people like Minato and Naruto.

Giving in to the Kyuubi was immature even Jiraiya told him not to use it. He could only control to 3 tails after that he goes crazy, he started at freaking 6! Notice how happy he was that he didn't kill anyone that is a miracle because the Kyuubi is walking devastation, you don't fight with that in YOUR HOMETOWN PERIOD. Pein turned Konoha into a parking lot, and Naruto had the possibility to end everyone with a wild bijuu, thats all the Kyuubi is. Notice his tears of joy that he hurt nobody, because he knew it was a MISTAKE TO GO KYUUBI IN CIVILIZED PLACES WHEN YOU CAN'T CONTROL HIM. Don't mean to yell but Naruto is obviously to immature to be a Jounin, or Hokage right now, and thats not to piss off anyone but its just the truth if you reallly think about it.

liondemon · 04-02-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lamps123

all the same that why we say he has matured cos he has learnt from experience,his father stop him from doing it so dont u think he has learnt frm dat nd wudnt try it again
i dont actually blame him if i was the one i wud hav let the beast out since i mean look at his childhood cos of the beast even at ur age now if u r not that yong wat wud u hv done.

U WOULDA RELEASED THE BEAST!? When i was 16, i though i was unstoppable. If i have been talking to this beast like he my Bitch since I found out he was in me, I would tell his ass to shut the fuck up, Im not realeasing this gotdamb seal, gimme like 2, no 3 tails, and dont ever try that shit again! That was me at 16.

Now im not as quick tempered as 16 but i still dont take no shit from nobody. In the real world that is, people here give me shit from time to time, and sometimes i thankem and sometimes i repem green like Nerofox says. I still wouldnt have just given up. After a childhood like that, i would cherish my life, and the lives of my villagers and friends and I would be fighting with my all, all for them and the world that Pain intends to destroy.

Shrike · 04-02-2009, 08:34 PM

I wanna see the Kage meeting.

Raikage eats a Honda for breakfast and shits out a BMW in the afternoon.

I want to see others.

IgnisV · 04-02-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoKakarott023

Giving in to the Kyuubi was immature even Jiraiya told him not to use it. He could only control to 3 tails after that he goes crazy, he started at freaking 6! Notice how happy he was that he didn't kill anyone that is a miracle because the Kyuubi is walking devastation, you don't fight with that in YOUR HOMETOWN PERIOD. Pein turned Konoha into a parking lot, and Naruto had the possibility to end everyone with a wild bijuu, thats all the Kyuubi is. Notice his tears of joy that he hurt nobody, because he knew it was a MISTAKE TO GO KYUUBI IN CIVILIZED PLACES WHEN YOU CAN'T CONTROL HIM. Don't mean to yell but Naruto is obviously to immature to be a Jounin, or Hokage right now, and thats not to piss off anyone but its just the truth if you reallly think about it.

Naruto isn't immature for giving into the kyuubi perse; but rather immature for allowing his anger and frustration to get the best of him. Believing that the only way out he had of his "pain" was by releasing the seal on the kyuubi, well that is immature. But he's 16. It is typical for sixteen year olds to make mistakes.

thesmartone · 04-02-2009, 08:42 PM

getting off subject... I have been thinking about mandara or let me say mandaras body is it possible that one of his sharingan abilities is that he can switch bodies with other sharingan users and thats why he really wanted sasuke to join akatsuki so he could take his youthful body and continue to live forever and that is why Itachi put that reaction in Sasukes eye so he could stop mandara. I'm just want to see what others think

liondemon · 04-02-2009, 08:49 PM

That's been my beliefs ever since i found out he wanted Sasuke and that he was a "shell of his former self".

superninja · 04-02-2009, 08:52 PM

I had a funny idea, what if Danzou suggests that Naruto should replace Tsunade as a hokage? That way Naruto would be the representative of the village, but the leadership of the village would be left to the elders and Danzou.

thesmartone · 04-02-2009, 08:53 PM

In a way Naruto series is really homoerotic... Every one wants to get inside sasuke!!!

04-02-2009, 07:55 PM	#874
TheSixthHokage S-Ranked Shinobi Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hokage's Office Posts: 2,676 Thanks: 952 Thanked 1,017 Times in 587 Posts	Re: Naruto 442 predictions/spoiler discussions Naruto was immature -- the battle against Pain proves he has grown phenomenally, particularly in strategy. In my mind, he is definitely ready for Chuunin rank, though with his power it doesn't even matter. __________________

04-02-2009, 08:34 PM	#880
Shrike █▄ █▄█ █▄ ▀█▄ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Silent Hill Posts: 5,158 Thanks: 7,863 Thanked 9,852 Times in 2,941 Posts	Re: Naruto 442 predictions/spoiler discussions I wanna see the Kage meeting. Raikage eats a Honda for breakfast and shits out a BMW in the afternoon. I want to see others.

04-02-2009, 08:42 PM	#882
thesmartone Don't be like that Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 82 Thanks: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Naruto 442 predictions/spoiler discussions getting off subject... I have been thinking about mandara or let me say mandaras body is it possible that one of his sharingan abilities is that he can switch bodies with other sharingan users and thats why he really wanted sasuke to join akatsuki so he could take his youthful body and continue to live forever and that is why Itachi put that reaction in Sasukes eye so he could stop mandara. I'm just want to see what others think __________________

04-02-2009, 08:52 PM	#884
superninja ANBU Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,841 Thanks: 190 Thanked 691 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Naruto 442 predictions/spoiler discussions I had a funny idea, what if Danzou suggests that Naruto should replace Tsunade as a hokage? That way Naruto would be the representative of the village, but the leadership of the village would be left to the elders and Danzou. __________________ The great off panel war has begun...also called the war of one panel because most fights started and ended in one panel. Also Kin and Gin as substitute for kyuubi chakra (the greatest amount of chakra in Naruto world) is something Kishi pulled out of his ass. I lost major respect. It would be like near the end of LOTR there happens to be another slightly weaker ring and Sauron is like "that will do". It kind of shits on everything established up to that point. It kind of insults my intelligence.

04-02-2009, 08:53 PM	#885
thesmartone Don't be like that Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 82 Thanks: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Naruto 442 predictions/spoiler discussions In a way Naruto series is really homoerotic... Every one wants to get inside sasuke!!! __________________

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