Naruto 443 prediction/spoiler discussion - Page 7

Krohnie84 · 04-03-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagoro1988

Here you go buddy !!
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/430/17-18/

Here Kabuto explains why he survived Rasengan.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/168/07/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/168/08/

Thought that I should add a little myself, being that I think that Rasengun is deadly.

Some damage it caused to a object, not a person. Just to set a basis.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/176/10/

Kakashi even states here that Naruto could kill with it
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/176/12/

In this one Kakashi states that chidori hass different levels; so would it be hard for someone to beleive that Rasengun can be used at different levels? Deadly or not?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/176/08/

As for the perdiction... I think Nagato will die, but not from over doing it. He will be killed, but by who I still don't know.

Archbound · 04-03-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Freakout

Yahiko/Deva is done for, you know cloak off and stuff and thats the only sure prediction who can be count on.

God dammit I just want this to conclude finally or I sent the TMNK special unit.

My prediction from some time ago (I believe it was at least two weeks ago where I stated the idea in an earlier prediction tread with added warning it could be later as well) where I stated Konan will fail in healing Nagato, Naruto puts out his answer, with his last words Nagato asks Konan to aid Naruto and they go back to the ruined leaf. Sakura fails with Hinata and Konan must clear the mess.

Nahh Sakura is not going to fail on Hinata. If the wounds were only as bad as TenTen let on then there is no way she would fuck up.

jeanericuser · 04-03-2009, 11:26 PM

Dagoro and Krohnie, hate to say it but those are probably the worst examples of it yet.

Dagoro, the first pic clearly shows that naruto shattered that pain with pure strength alone. That wasnt a rasengan. That was just naruto using sage strength alone. As for the examples of kabuto, that only proves that the rasengan can do severe damage and kabuto has the power to immediately heal himself from it.

Krohnie, I explained this before but i have a better explaination. The rasengan in essense is similar to the dbz spirit bomb. It starts out as a smaller ball full of highly compressed energy. Eventually once fully released the ball expands to a larger size that is able to do heavy damage to stationary objects while objects that follow with it suffer considerable knockback. That is why often the rasengan has not been lethal since most times the result caused people to be carried away by the blast and stationary objects that have been hit by the rasengan often show considerable damage. That example you show of the fight with sasuke proves it quite well. As for the worst case scenario that is referenced, the only way I can think of that it could be deadly would be if naruto used the rasengan on sasuke's face resulting in knocking him off the building and to his death. Imagine how much that would have changed the series.

I hate to say it but again you have provided me no proof of anyone that has physically been killed by a rasengan alone. To my knowledge I have yet to see a single instance of it happening yet.

Dagoro · 04-03-2009, 11:32 PM

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Dagoro, the first pic clearly shows that naruto shattered that pain with pure strength alone. That wasnt a rasengan. That was just naruto using sage strength alone. As for the examples of kabuto, that only proves that the rasengan can do severe damage and kabuto has the power to immediately heal himself from it.

WTF are you talking about ??

That was him using a reg rasengan, do i need to post the pic with big fucking circle on top of the rasengan so you can see it ??

There, is that big enough and clear enought for ya ??

Magus Vulpes · 04-03-2009, 11:44 PM

i think kishi will screw with our minds and have jump storylines. sasuke and his cronies arrive at konoha around the same time as the lightning ninjas. sasuke will kill the elders and danzou (ending that arc before it really gets off the ground) and will defect from akatsuki back to konoha (since he doesn't trust madara), and when the lightning demands that they turn over sasuke they refuse and thus begins the next ninja war.

there, i made a legitimate prediction.

Krohnie84 · 04-03-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanericuser

Dagoro, the first pic clearly shows that naruto shattered that pain with pure strength alone. That wasnt a rasengan.

I want to be clear, that you are talking about the pic in the link below?

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/430/17-18/

Well, with a little time I zoomed in and yet there is a sphere infront of Naruto's open palm.

zoom rasengun.jpg
Do you punch people with open palms? That would be a slap, and I bet a slap would do that much damage in Sage mode but I don't think that it is Naruto's style.

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Originally Posted by jeanericuser

I hate to say it but again you have provided me no proof of anyone that has physically been killed by a rasengan alone. To my knowledge I have yet to see a single instance of it happening yet.

Do you read the magna, or just look. On the last page it says and I quote,

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Distroying Pain with the Blow that Jiraiya taught him

To make sure that there might not be a miss translation I looked on NC and One and they are both the same. Except Naruto Central dosen't have the colored pages for some reason?

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/442/17/

http://www.narutocentral.com/manga.p...uto&c=442&p=13

Edit: Damn, Dagoro got to it before me!!! Oh, i also wanted to make it clear that i never saud it has killed, all i said is that it is a deadly jutsu.

icedraon620 · 04-04-2009, 01:44 AM

Rasengan can kill and thats final.

Bo you seriously think that Nagato is going to listen to naruto so easily. I think Konan is going to go crazzy on his ass.

The Special One · 04-04-2009, 01:55 AM

Its obvious that anyone taking a direct blow from even a regular sized Rasengan (not Konohamaru's tennis ball) would suffer fatally.

The only reason why no one has died from Naruto's Rasengan, was because Naruto had little successs in striking his opponents with it in the past. In Part II, he's more skilled however, which means he has a higher chance of connecting because his coordination and timing in battle is more precise and accurate.

If Madara couldn't separately remove sections of his body from the current demonsion, well, you can pretty much think about the results. Not many things that has eaten a Rasengan from Naruto and got up from it.

Remember the Rasengan evenly matches a full powered Chidori. Even A regular chidori would poke a 50 caliber anti-material rifle sized hole in ya, yet Rasengan against a full powered chidori cancel each other out. So you can pretty much assume that damage that Rasengan would do to someone who can't physically recompose their bodily damage.

Rasengan focuses more on explosive impact rather than stab, which means radius of damage is quite wide. I wouldn't be shoked if God Realm's entire skelentonal structure is shattered under the pressure.

Dagoro · 04-04-2009, 02:09 AM

@TSO

Good expl.

I don't understand why people come up with such ridiculous arguments trying to disprove something that is obvious to everyone else.

IgnisV · 04-04-2009, 02:16 AM

Damn stupidity must have struck a few people this chapter. ;/

We have people in the other forum (442 Discussion) claiming Gai and Lee could help Naruto against Deva or that they can take on Deva; and here we have people saying the Rasengan isn't lethal. Yeah, it was only ranked A, right? And only created by the Fourth. Ahmm..

Krohnie84 · 04-04-2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by IgnisV

Damn stupidity must have struck a few people this chapter. ;/

We have people in the other forum (442 Discussion) claiming Gai and Lee could help Naruto against Deva or that they can take on Deva; and here we have people saying the Rasengan isn't lethal. Yeah, it was only ranked A, right? And only created by the Fourth. Ahmm..

They would do as much damage to Pain as Ten Ten does to every panel she gets drawn in.

^ that might have been a little harsh, but Lee and Gai can't do too much here besides give a little cover.

The Special One · 04-04-2009, 02:25 AM

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and here we have people saying the Rasengan isn't lethal. Yeah, it was only ranked A, right? And only created by the Fourth. Ahmm..

Maybe they have temporary amnesia.lol But maybe there is an explantion.

When people see things like Rasen Shuriken, Kirin, Sasunoo, and C4 I guess they forget the destructive impact of the regular Rasengan because all of those bigger and higher ranked ninjutsu covers a wider range and destructive radius. But Rasengan is still an A-rank jutsu regardless and against a single opponent, it can and will kill if it connects.

Krohnie84 · 04-04-2009, 02:32 AM

I guess another veiw point is that there are so many high level people who can take a hit from rasengan and still walk. I bet if Pain was at full power, no chakra use and then took a direct hit he could live through it. < Yet, the situation is different, he is weak and has been getting the crap beat'n out of him for some time. Hell, he took some lashes from the Nine Tails. Only other people to live after that were Oro, J-man and Sakura (A little slap does count

)

Edit: Forgot that this is thread is for predictions..... Sasuke will become so mad that Naruto took Pain on that he will go to Madara and let him take over his body just so he can be almost as powerful.

The Special One · 04-04-2009, 02:41 AM

Its more like they have counters. Pain has Shinra Tensei and one of his bodies absorbs ninjutsu attacks. Logically, he shouldn't ever be hit by Rasengan. But Naruto beat Pain into mush, discovered the 5 seconded interval, and violated Pain's safety zone.

Orochimaru could shed his body if too much damage occurs, so that's a leeway, and Jiraiya managed to stop the Kyuubi at 4 tails before taking too much damage through the use of seal knowledge perhaps.

Krohnie84 · 04-04-2009, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Special One

Its more like they have counters.

Ok, after you say that.. yea, thinking back (Ouch.. my head hurts from all the thinking) some how everyone who Naruto attacks seems to have a way around it. Hell, Kabuto from the begining was showing us that. Besides the complexity of the jutsu, Naruto had such a hard time moving himself around. Add in the yelling he had to do as well and you can see why most of the old Rasengan attacks were pointless.

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Originally Posted by The Special One

discovered the 5 seconded interval, and violated Pain's safety zone

His personal space. I bet he gets all freaked out because of it too. Thats why nagato created the six paths, to keep people out of his huge bubble.

04-03-2009, 11:26 PM	#93
jeanericuser Predictomatic 9000 Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 33 Posts: 707 Thanks: 72 Thanked 1,051 Times in 229 Posts	Re: Naruto 443 predictions Dagoro and Krohnie, hate to say it but those are probably the worst examples of it yet. Dagoro, the first pic clearly shows that naruto shattered that pain with pure strength alone. That wasnt a rasengan. That was just naruto using sage strength alone. As for the examples of kabuto, that only proves that the rasengan can do severe damage and kabuto has the power to immediately heal himself from it. Krohnie, I explained this before but i have a better explaination. The rasengan in essense is similar to the dbz spirit bomb. It starts out as a smaller ball full of highly compressed energy. Eventually once fully released the ball expands to a larger size that is able to do heavy damage to stationary objects while objects that follow with it suffer considerable knockback. That is why often the rasengan has not been lethal since most times the result caused people to be carried away by the blast and stationary objects that have been hit by the rasengan often show considerable damage. That example you show of the fight with sasuke proves it quite well. As for the worst case scenario that is referenced, the only way I can think of that it could be deadly would be if naruto used the rasengan on sasuke's face resulting in knocking him off the building and to his death. Imagine how much that would have changed the series. I hate to say it but again you have provided me no proof of anyone that has physically been killed by a rasengan alone. To my knowledge I have yet to see a single instance of it happening yet.

04-03-2009, 11:44 PM	#95
Magus Vulpes Academy Student Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: West Virginia Age: 26 Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Naruto 443 predictions i think kishi will screw with our minds and have jump storylines. sasuke and his cronies arrive at konoha around the same time as the lightning ninjas. sasuke will kill the elders and danzou (ending that arc before it really gets off the ground) and will defect from akatsuki back to konoha (since he doesn't trust madara), and when the lightning demands that they turn over sasuke they refuse and thus begins the next ninja war. there, i made a legitimate prediction. __________________ Remember, you can't spell slaughter without laughter. Penny:"Well, maybe they'll be a tap dancing pirate with a wooden leg." Leonard:"Why would you make it worse?!" Penny:"I tried making it better, but he wasn't going for it." If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh. - Janus "Magus" Zeal

04-04-2009, 01:44 AM	#97
icedraon620 God of Tanukis Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: West Coast Age: 19 Posts: 544 Thanks: 17 Thanked 116 Times in 69 Posts	Re: Naruto 443 predictions Rasengan can kill and thats final. Bo you seriously think that Nagato is going to listen to naruto so easily. I think Konan is going to go crazzy on his ass. __________________ The things I do for love.

04-04-2009, 01:55 AM	#98
The Special One Kage Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oakpark, Michigan Age: 22 Posts: 5,056 Thanks: 888 Thanked 4,449 Times in 1,550 Posts	Re: Naruto 443 predictions Its obvious that anyone taking a direct blow from even a regular sized Rasengan (not Konohamaru's tennis ball) would suffer fatally. The only reason why no one has died from Naruto's Rasengan, was because Naruto had little successs in striking his opponents with it in the past. In Part II, he's more skilled however, which means he has a higher chance of connecting because his coordination and timing in battle is more precise and accurate. If Madara couldn't separately remove sections of his body from the current demonsion, well, you can pretty much think about the results. Not many things that has eaten a Rasengan from Naruto and got up from it. Remember the Rasengan evenly matches a full powered Chidori. Even A regular chidori would poke a 50 caliber anti-material rifle sized hole in ya, yet Rasengan against a full powered chidori cancel each other out. So you can pretty much assume that damage that Rasengan would do to someone who can't physically recompose their bodily damage. Rasengan focuses more on explosive impact rather than stab, which means radius of damage is quite wide. I wouldn't be shoked if God Realm's entire skelentonal structure is shattered under the pressure. __________________ The Specialist, forever http://forums.narutocentral.com/showthread.php?t=24201 ^My first thread.lol

04-04-2009, 02:09 AM	#99
Dagoro Daifunka Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Braving the New World. Posts: 8,744 Thanks: 72 Thanked 7,181 Times in 2,872 Posts	Re: Naruto 443 predictions @TSO Good expl. I don't understand why people come up with such ridiculous arguments trying to disprove something that is obvious to everyone else. __________________

04-04-2009, 02:16 AM	#100
IgnisV What is Genin? Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: US Age: 23 Posts: 458 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Naruto 443 predictions Damn stupidity must have struck a few people this chapter. ;/ We have people in the other forum (442 Discussion) claiming Gai and Lee could help Naruto against Deva or that they can take on Deva; and here we have people saying the Rasengan isn't lethal. Yeah, it was only ranked A, right? And only created by the Fourth. Ahmm.. __________________

04-04-2009, 02:32 AM	#103
Krohnie84 Jounin Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minnesota Age: 29 Posts: 945 Thanks: 197 Thanked 217 Times in 139 Posts	Re: Naruto 443 predictions I guess another veiw point is that there are so many high level people who can take a hit from rasengan and still walk. I bet if Pain was at full power, no chakra use and then took a direct hit he could live through it. < Yet, the situation is different, he is weak and has been getting the crap beat'n out of him for some time. Hell, he took some lashes from the Nine Tails. Only other people to live after that were Oro, J-man and Sakura (A little slap does count ) Edit: Forgot that this is thread is for predictions..... Sasuke will become so mad that Naruto took Pain on that he will go to Madara and let him take over his body just so he can be almost as powerful. __________________ "Never go back on your word... and never give up, no matter how bad it gets. That's your Ninja way." Jiraiya Ero-Sennin. Last edited by Krohnie84; 04-04-2009 at 02:36 AM.

04-04-2009, 02:41 AM	#104
The Special One Kage Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oakpark, Michigan Age: 22 Posts: 5,056 Thanks: 888 Thanked 4,449 Times in 1,550 Posts	Re: Naruto 443 predictions Its more like they have counters. Pain has Shinra Tensei and one of his bodies absorbs ninjutsu attacks. Logically, he shouldn't ever be hit by Rasengan. But Naruto beat Pain into mush, discovered the 5 seconded interval, and violated Pain's safety zone. Orochimaru could shed his body if too much damage occurs, so that's a leeway, and Jiraiya managed to stop the Kyuubi at 4 tails before taking too much damage through the use of seal knowledge perhaps. __________________ The Specialist, forever http://forums.narutocentral.com/showthread.php?t=24201 ^My first thread.lol

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