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Old 04-22-2009, 10:22 PM   #226
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So the question remains, how does one achieve true peace? I don't think there could be such a thing. There will always be violence and endless cycle of hatred/greed/war. Even in today's society, there's no such thing as true peace. That's why i'm somewhat eager to hear Naruto's answer. I don't want that "if soemone thinks of you, that's the place you could go home to" stuff.
Somehow I imagine a rather corny and stupid response, mostly because no human being, in my mind, can actually expect Naruto to forgive Nagato. I would have, in Naruto's shoes, simply thrown a FRS into the tree without even talking to him. I believe in forgiveness, but seriously, there is a line. Nagato crossed it about 5 times than took a dump on it.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:26 PM   #227
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I think it comes from this childhood idealism that "evil" and war can just be stopped, I fail to see how, humans kill and humans conquer. It's the same as poverty or disease, we can at best lessen these hazards, we cannot eliminate them. War is no different.
I think you're kinda on the right track.. it probably has to start from childhood. Someone must be intelligent and moral enough to teach those lil bastards that war and greed doesn't solve anything. Probably right that the only thing that you can do is to try to lessen those types of situations as much as possible.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:29 PM   #228
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Somehow I imagine a rather corny and stupid response, mostly because no human being, in my mind, can actually expect Naruto to forgive Nagato. I would have, in Naruto's shoes, simply thrown a FRS into the tree without even talking to him. I believe in forgiveness, but seriously, there is a line. Nagato crossed it about 5 times than took a dump on it.
Like i said awhile back, i'd already rasengan a tatoo symbol on Nagato's head by now for killing my mentors and hurting the villagers. But, since Naruto seems like he can always talk his opponents out of their crazy ways all the time, i'd be somewhat willing to hear what he has to say this time around since Nagato has a one-sided mind. And, if Kishi comes up with some homosexual answer, then ima just go and eat babies for breakfast.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:32 PM   #229
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Like i said awhile back, i'd already rasengan a tatoo symbol on Nagato's head by now for killing my mentors and hurting the villagers. But, since Naruto seems like he can always talk his opponents out of their crazy ways all the time, i'd be somewhat willing to hear what he has to say this time around. And, if Kishi comes up with some homosexual answer, then ill be damned.
I don't want to seem overly blood-thirsty but let's see he destroyed Konoha, murdered Jiraiya, Kakashi, Shizune and crippled the Fire Country, most likely causing a grand destabilization of international power, possibly leading to a world war.

Naruto's innocence and willingness to listen to the other side is great, but when it comes to Nagato-like villains, death to me, is the only logical outcome. He's a stray dog that has to be shot.
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Yeah i see your point of view. I think it's time for Naruto to become more badass, less innocent, and less hesitant. He'll probably need that type of personality when he faces far worse kage level villains that will just destroy anything and everything at will.
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Re: Naruto 445 Prediction/Spoiler Discussion

The problem is that Nagato is trying to write the problem he is going to create off as a solution. He's basically making things more difficult for the next generation. Sure, wars will lessen, but the casulties will rise far above. I don't see how several generations of peace can reverse the destruction of an entire shinobi country, which can occur after the checkmate's power resovles. In the long run the problem becomes way more severe.

I guess its diffcult for Nagato to weigh millions up millions of lives against several generations of peace (which is uncertain).
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:08 AM   #232
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So far it looks like all of this is just a battle of ideals. Naruto probably is gonna go for a sort of united nations type treaty system where everyone works together to stop aggressive nations and work towards humanitarian solutions to problems. Pretty much the ultimate deterent to stop aggressive powers will probably be the jinchuriki who will act as nukes for each major village. Nagato probably will like the idea and give naruto a little info about the sealing device and akatsuki but konan probably will realize he has switched sides and kill him outright. Neji and guy will then arrive and try to kick konan's ass but naruto will tell them to let her leave. After that naruto will then try to explain to neji and guy the real reasons for why pain attacked and the reason konan should be allowed to leave. Likely I doubt we will see any real action for a lot of chapters but I hope Im wrong like I was about deva pain.
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Re: Naruto 445 Prediction/Spoiler Discussion

Pain will tell Naruto, in response to Naruto's answer, that everyone wont just give in to Naruto's path to Peace, just like Naruto didnt just give into his. Naruto will tell Pain, "Then I will make them". Negato thinks, if anyone could do it, this guy could. Then Madara zooms in and kills him since he already told him failure is not acceptable from the so called undefeated god, leader of his, Madara, elite shinobi assasins called Akatsukuki. I think Madara will kill him
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So far it looks like all of this is just a battle of ideals. Naruto probably is gonna go for a sort of united nations type treaty system where everyone works together to stop aggressive nations and work towards humanitarian solutions to problems. Pretty much the ultimate deterent to stop aggressive powers will probably be the jinchuriki who will act as nukes for each major village. Nagato probably will like the idea and give naruto a little info about the sealing device and akatsuki but konan probably will realize he has switched sides and kill him outright. Neji and guy will then arrive and try to kick konan's ass but naruto will tell them to let her leave. After that naruto will then try to explain to neji and guy the real reasons for why pain attacked and the reason konan should be allowed to leave. Likely I doubt we will see any real action for a lot of chapters but I hope Im wrong like I was about deva pain.
That's already how the 5 great nations are set up now. The First Hokage went through all that and gave bijuu's to each nation as a sign of peace and to equalize each nation. All the nations are currently working to fight off Akatsuki and know that they're a major threat which is why the raikage wants to have a summit of the 5 kages. Because one of their jinchuriki's has already been killed and the other still thought abducted. Read mu'fugga.

Nagato won't like the idea because if he did he would have accepted that a long time ago. His grudge is apparently with Konoha and his goal is Naruto/Fox. Otherwise there is no reason to go through all this trouble to only admit fault and die pointlessly. Konan has no significance. She won't put up a very good fight because her powers suck. She's like the chick from Read or Die except she can't change the paper's density. If it wasn't for Deva, the Aburame clan would have literally shredded her ass apart. SHe will either escape through some Nagato created distraction OR she will be apprehended and handed over to Ibiki Morino, Interrogator of criminals and local heartthrobbing womanizer.


EDIT: Also Naruto's answer will be the same answer hegives everyone. "I won't give up! That' my way of the ninja dattebayo! " the end.
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Re: Naruto 445 Prediction/Spoiler Discussion

Screw the peace stuff. Naruto needs to kill this guy.

He destroyed Konoha, killed Jiraya, almost killed Hinata, and resulted in the death of Kakashi because his parents recklessly attacked ninja who weren't threatening them and his dog got whacked on a battle field. GTFO!
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:07 AM   #236
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i want nagato dead, i want him killed by naruto,but i know that naruto might not be able to do it because he really is a softie who believes that there is another way aside from killing each other. nagato will die but not by naruto's hands. naruto will either change nagato's belief, make him one of his cronies, and make konan his sexretary.
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man man how is naruto a softie,he landed rasenshuriken on kakuzu destroying his ever cell,all he knew about kakuzu was that he was part of akatuski,lol you think he wanted to massage kakuzu,s back with frs lol
well i admit naruto might not kill nagato and thats just because of what his father told him.
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^ because i think naruto knows that his FRS attack cannot kill? i cant seem to recall if naruto has ever killed an enemy in manga or in anime, they all end up being rasengan'd but they are only KO'ed so i think naruto knows that rasengan by nature is destructive but cannot be a killing blow, and so is what he has done to FRS. remember that Kakuzu is still alive after recieving all those microscopic hits from the 50% FRS, Kakashi was the one who finished Kakuzu.
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^ because i think naruto knows that his FRS attack cannot kill? i cant seem to recall if naruto has ever killed an enemy in manga or in anime, they all end up being rasengan'd but they are only KO'ed so i think naruto knows that rasengan by nature is destructive but cannot be a killing blow, and so is what he has done to FRS. remember that Kakuzu is still alive after recieving all those microscopic hits from the 50% FRS, Kakashi was the one who finished Kakuzu.
hahaha because he knows frs cannot killl,thats soo funny,
do you really mean that
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The spoiler pictures show Hanzou. I guess the kids saw the fight between Hanzou & the Sannin. I wonder if some of that fight will be shown...

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^ because i think naruto knows that his FRS attack cannot kill? i cant seem to recall if naruto has ever killed an enemy in manga or in anime, they all end up being rasengan'd but they are only KO'ed so i think naruto knows that rasengan by nature is destructive but cannot be a killing blow, and so is what he has done to FRS. remember that Kakuzu is still alive after recieving all those microscopic hits from the 50% FRS, Kakashi was the one who finished Kakuzu.
Whaaaa??? Rasengan can vaporize a tree do you honestly think it couldn't kill a ninja? Get real dude LMAO!
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