Naruto 446 Prediction/Spoiler Discussion - Page 3

Vengeance · 04-24-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stubborn_narut0

Well we all know/saw that naruto trained using the nine-tails under jiraiya but did that make him learn to (completely) control it?

Stupid questions get stupid answers. When Jiraiya first met them Nagato couldn't control his power. When Jiraiya left them Nagato had mastered the use of every element & could active his rinnegan on his own. How the fuck do you think he was able to learn how to control it in the first place?

Answer: Jiraiya's training.

In part 1 Jiraiya taught Naruto how to access that power. At that time yes Naruto did have compleate control over the foxes power that he had access to. In part 2 Jiraiya tampered with his seal in an effort to release more chakra. Naruto was not able to control this power & almost killed his master. Do you even read the manga or is this some lame attempt at trying to be funny?

Narutologist · 04-24-2009, 02:49 PM

more talking...more explaining...more transitions...

NeoKakarott023 · 04-24-2009, 04:12 PM

Madara is the Mizukage according to Kisame, theres no 'new' Mizukage just the same old Madara who may be Hanzo, but its hard to pin every evil of the entire shinobi world on Madara, there had to be other bad guys with Uber skills as well.

The Special One · 04-24-2009, 08:56 PM

I'll make a prediction next week. It will give me more time to come up something possible involving Yahiko's death... Dang, this means no Bleach either right?

Oh well. At this point its not so bad to wait. Let us build up some anticipation. Next chapters for Naruto and Bleach (guranteed) should be a bit interesting.

Emissary of Justice · 04-24-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

Stupid questions get stupid answers. When Jiraiya first met them Nagato couldn't control his power. When Jiraiya left them Nagato had mastered the use of every element & could active his rinnegan on his own. How the fuck do you think he was able to learn how to control it in the first place?

Answer: Jiraiya's training.

In part 1 Jiraiya taught Naruto how to access that power. At that time yes Naruto did have compleate control over the foxes power that he had access to. In part 2 Jiraiya tampered with his seal in an effort to release more chakra. Naruto was not able to control this power & almost killed his master. Do you even read the manga or is this some lame attempt at trying to be funny?

Was it really necessary to pwn the poor guy like that?

sauskewalmart · 04-25-2009, 01:55 AM

Im almost thinking Madara has something to do with the death of Yahiko... we may not find out til the long run... but if madara found out nagato had the rinnegan... he may have tipped off salamanderman or maybe even killed yahiko himself, making it look like someone else did, just to control nagato....

im also thinking that maybe nagato is to blame for everything, maybe jariaya told him something about how to be, and yahiko is killed, and nagato blacks out and disobeys, and he turns into a pawn because of it.... overall, i think its gonna be madara controlling him like a puppet when its all said and done

stubborn_d0nkey · 04-25-2009, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

Stupid questions get stupid answers. When Jiraiya first met them Nagato couldn't control his power. When Jiraiya left them Nagato had mastered the use of every element & could active his rinnegan on his own. How the fuck do you think he was able to learn how to control it in the first place?

Answer: Jiraiya's training.

In part 1 Jiraiya taught Naruto how to access that power. At that time yes Naruto did have compleate control over the foxes power that he had access to. In part 2 Jiraiya tampered with his seal in an effort to release more chakra. Naruto was not able to control this power & almost killed his master. Do you even read the manga or is this some lame attempt at trying to be funny?

do you even read the manga? did you read the last 10-20 chapters? well if you did you would have seen that there is more to the rinnegan than the six elements (just like there is more to the nine tails than what naruto was able to control in part one - which is why i wrote completely)
There are the six paths, the chakra control, the tenseis out of which i would note chibaku (do you think jiraiya could have taught him that? or that he knew that rikodu used it to make a/the 'moon'?)

You see, it was (imho) indeed a good analogy. Nagato didn't learn everything about the rinnegan from jiraiya (just like naruto and the nine tails) jiraiya just helped him achieve one step and he had to find a way to achieve the rest which is why jiraiya didnt give him complete control.

P.S. I am not stating that nagato has complete control of his rinnegan yet, he may or may not, it is still unclear. But it is imo obvious that he didnt learn from jiraiya everything he knows now, actually he didnt learn anything from jiraiya which makes him the ninja he is now (except of course the most basic thing - how to activate the rinnegan. quite similar to naruto, the only significant thing (imho) he he got from jiraiya (kyuubi wise) was how to call on it and get its chakra)

After writing this post I keep on seeing a lot of similarities between nagato and naruto, is it a coincidence... :P

Emissary of Justice · 04-25-2009, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stubborn_narut0

quite similar to naruto, the only significant thing (imho) he he got from jiraiya (kyuubi wise) was how to call on it and get its chakra)

Yeah, that silly Rasengan technique was nothing important at all.

stubborn_d0nkey · 04-25-2009, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Emissary of Justice

Yeah, that silly Rasengan technique was nothing important at all.

I was talking about the kyuubi, and the use of kyuubi. I was talking about that through the whole post and even stated that in the part you quoted so rasengan has nothing to do with it.

but now that you mention it, jiraiya teaching him rasengan is quite like the kyuubi and the rinnegan. again this is an example of jiraiya giving the foundation and the pupils building the house.

Emissary of Justice · 04-25-2009, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by stubborn_narut0

I was talking about the kyuubi, and the use of kyuubi. I was talking about that through the whole post and even stated that in the part you quoted so rasengan has nothing to do with it.

I dunno, Kyuubi seems to enjoy the attack as well.

stubborn_d0nkey · 04-25-2009, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Emissary of Justice

I dunno, Kyuubi seems to enjoy the attack as well.

well, lol... :P

hehe nice, but no

TheSixthHokage · 04-25-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Emissary of Justice

Yeah, that silly Rasengan technique was nothing important at all.

Haha, yup. Only 90% of his moves against Pain were the Rasengan or a derivative thereof.

Wolverine · 04-25-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSixthHokage

Haha, yup. Only 90% of his moves against Pain were the Rasengan or a derivative thereof.

This ... is Kishi's way to prove that Naruto no longer spams Kage Bunshin and depends heavily on it.

Spiegel · 04-25-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSixthHokage

Haha, yup. Only 90% of his moves against Pain were the Rasengan or a derivative thereof.

Your also forgetting the frog katas that Fukasaku taught Naruto.

Vengeance · 04-25-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stubborn_narut0

do you even read the manga? did you read the last 10-20 chapters? well if you did you would have seen that there is more to the rinnegan than the six elements (just like there is more to the nine tails than what naruto was able to control in part one - which is why i wrote completely)
There are the six paths, the chakra control, the tenseis out of which i would note chibaku (do you think jiraiya could have taught him that? or that he knew that rikodu used it to make a/the 'moon'?)

Yes I do read the manga tard however you're swaying away from the original question. The original question was when he learned to control the rinnegan which I already answered more then once. Of course over time he would learn new jutsu. That's a fucking given since he was only a kid when Jiraiya left. To answer the original question yes he learned how to control the rinnegan from Jiraiya's training. After learning to control it as the years went on he created new jutsu. Like I said before rinnegan is limited to the imagination of the user.

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Originally Posted by stubborn_narut0

You see, it was (imho) indeed a good analogy. Nagato didn't learn everything about the rinnegan from jiraiya (just like naruto and the nine tails) jiraiya just helped him achieve one step and he had to find a way to achieve the rest which is why jiraiya didnt give him complete control.

Again getting away from the original question. He of course over time learned new jutsu by using his rinnegan. He learned these jutsu by himself because he's the only one capable of doing them. You're miss understanding the term control ron. Nagato after Jiraiya's training could active rinnegan on command & access all elements. Meaning he learned how to control his dojutsu then. Creating new jutsu after this training has nothing to do with gaining a new found control over the rinnegan.

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Originally Posted by stubborn_narut0

P.S. I am not stating that nagato has complete control of his rinnegan yet, he may or may not, it is still unclear. But it is imo obvious that he didnt learn from jiraiya everything he knows now, actually he didnt learn anything from jiraiya which makes him the ninja he is now (except of course the most basic thing - how to activate the rinnegan. quite similar to naruto, the only significant thing (imho) he he got from jiraiya (kyuubi wise) was how to call on it and get its chakra)

After writing this post I keep on seeing a lot of similarities between nagato and naruto, is it a coincidence... :P

Rinnegan does not control Nagato & hasn't since Nagatos training. I'll say it again since you seem to be a compleate moron Nagato learned how to control his power because of Jiraiya's training.

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sauskewalmart Academy Student Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: minnesota Posts: 40 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Naruto 446 Prediction/Spoiler Discussion Im almost thinking Madara has something to do with the death of Yahiko... we may not find out til the long run... but if madara found out nagato had the rinnegan... he may have tipped off salamanderman or maybe even killed yahiko himself, making it look like someone else did, just to control nagato.... im also thinking that maybe nagato is to blame for everything, maybe jariaya told him something about how to be, and yahiko is killed, and nagato blacks out and disobeys, and he turns into a pawn because of it.... overall, i think its gonna be madara controlling him like a puppet when its all said and done __________________ sexy jutsu?

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