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Old 04-29-2009, 11:41 AM   #106
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sasuke did have a contract with the snakes
Actually all pannels evidence points the other way.

Sasuke was only able to use snake techs after the integrated Orochimaru's powers with his own. During the battle with Itachi Oro was sealed for good and Sasuke lost all his abilities.

After the Itachi fight Sasuke lost his CS, white snake regen and judging from his battle against Hachibi his snake techs too.

This is already excepted as canon.

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Old 04-29-2009, 12:05 PM   #107
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Re: Naruto 446 Prediction/Spoiler Discussion

if sasuke had snake techs instead of being hit by killer bee he would have used the snakes to block the attacks like oro use to do. sasuke's snake techs were because he absorbed oro once oro got killed off all his powers were gone.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:55 PM   #109
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There will be no Weekly Shonen Jump in Japan this week. As such, Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, D.Gray-Man, Eyeshield 21, and other WSJ series will not be coming out until next week.
Stupid, especially considering where this arc is...

At least the weekly episode is coming...right?....right?
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:54 PM   #110
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Re: Naruto 446 Prediction/Spoiler Discussion

or you could just say he lost them after manda was killed. and dagoro you cant really say sasuke absorbed them after he absorbed oro because he didnt really fight anyone until after it happened. anyway it isnt stated if he signed a contract or not. and since suigetsu was able to summon manda im lead to believe that sasuke had a contract to.
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Stupid, especially considering where this arc is...

At least the weekly episode is coming...right?....right?
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:06 PM   #112
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dagoro you cant really say sasuke absorbed them after he absorbed oro because he didnt really fight anyone until after it happened
Based on pannel evidence it makes perfect sense. Sasuke was only able to use snake techs after he integrated Oro. He commented on the white snake powers after his run with Deidara since it was the first time he ever experienced it.

After Oro was sealed for good Sasuke has yet to show snake abilities, and lets be serious for a second, if Sasuke still had it don't you think Kishi would've had him use it against KB ? After he got mortally wounded twice wouldn't Oral rebirth have come in handy ??

After Kb went FB summoning a snake would have fit perfectly with the story since it would have been parallel with Naruto using a summon to take down Shukaku. Instead Kishi used it to demonstrate what Oro's abilities were traded for.

You can assume that Sasuke signed a contract all you want, if you can't prove it than it will stay an assumption.

Though i can't link a page where it says " Sasuke has now lost all his snake abilities " i don't need to be spon fed info in order to put 2 and 2 together and make an educated guess. This is already excepted as canon.

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suigetsu was able to summon manda im lead to believe that sasuke had a contract to.
Suigetsu summoned manda during the time period in which Sasuke still had Oro's powers.

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Re: Naruto 446 Prediction/Spoiler Discussion

Sasuke absorbed Oro's powers thats a given since Oro himself was attempting to make a deal with Sasuke when he was at zero chakra vs. Itachi. Oro never got his just due to me though because many speak of him as some loser punk but when he escaped from Sasuke he truly came out beastly vs. Itachi. The problem was that Hydra was no match for Susanoo.
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:56 PM   #114
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Based on pannel evidence it makes perfect sense. Sasuke was only able to use snake techs after he integrated Oro. He commented on the white snake powers after his run with Deidara since it was the first time he ever experienced it.

After Oro was sealed for good Sasuke has yet to show snake abilities, and lets be serious for a second, if Sasuke still had it don't you think Kishi would've had him use it against KB ? After he got mortally wounded twice wouldn't Oral rebirth have come in handy ??

After Kb went FB summoning a snake would have fit perfectly with the story since it would have been parallel with Naruto using a summon to take down Shukaku. Instead Kishi used it to demonstrate what Oro's abilities were traded for.

You can assume that Sasuke signed a contract all you want, if you can't prove it than it will stay an assumption.

Though i can't link a page where it says " Sasuke has now lost all his snake abilities " i don't need to be spon fed info in order to put 2 and 2 together and make an educated guess. This is already excepted as canon.


Suigetsu summoned manda during the time period in which Sasuke still had Oro's powers.
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I was under the impression that Suigetsu used Orochimaru's blood plus his own chakra to summon Gamabunta. Sasuke came into the package because he was flying Manda.

My guess is that Sasuke could still summon if he used Orochimaru's blood. However, since he probably does not have anymore and Sasuke most likely did not make a blood contract like Anko, he can't summon anymore.
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Okay. Where the hell did it mention where Sasuke loses all snake powers in the manga? I know Orochimaru and CS was removed, but not Orochimaru abilities. Killerbee was too fast and powerful for Sasuke to deal with. Shit Sasuke was forced to use MS instead of his regular arsenal of jutsu if he wanted to make it out alive.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:05 PM   #117
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I was under the impression that Suigetsu used Orochimaru's blood plus his own chakra to summon Gamabunta. Sasuke came into the package because he was flying Manda.

My guess is that Sasuke could still summon if he used Orochimaru's blood. However, since he probably does not have anymore and Sasuke most likely did not make a blood contract like Anko, he can't summon anymore.
SO Suigetsu, the kid who took Zabuza's sword and is mostly locked in a water cell, used Orochimaru's blood whose side he's never been shown to be by, to summon Gamabunta the toad whom only has a contract with Jiraiya, The 4th and Naruto? The second sentence only serves to make me that much more retarded because that much sense.

What I'm thinking is that you meant to say Kabuto used Oro's blood to summon Manda in order to fight off jiraiya and naruto, the former who summoned Gamabunta. I still don't know what you mean by sasuke flying manda.
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I was under the impression that Suigetsu used Orochimaru's blood plus his own chakra to summon Manda. Sasuke came into the package because he was flying Manda.
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Okay. Where the hell did it mention where Sasuke loses all snake powers in the manga? I know Orochimaru and CS was removed, but not Orochimaru abilities
Sasuke lost all of the abilities he had due to Oro being integrated into him. CS, white snake regen, shadow snake tech and summons are out the window.

I say it again, if we waited for Kishi to spell out every single detail in the manga than we wouldn't know anything.

Based on the manga timeline of snake tech usage by Sasuke everything indicates that all his snake techs are gone for good along with Oro. Also it makes perfect sense because it coincides with the transition from snake to hawk.
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Fixed for TSO. He meant to say manda not Bunta.



Sasuke lost all of the abilities he had due to Oro being integrated into him. CS, white snake regen, shadow snake tech and summons are out the window.

I say it again, if we waited for Kishi to spell out every single detail in the manga than we wouldn't know anything.

Based on the manga timeline of snake tech usage by Sasuke everything indicates that all his snake techs are gone for good along with Oro. Also it makes perfect sense because it coincides with the transition from snake to hawk.
so ur saying that oro tought sasuke nothing in the 3 years they were together?
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so ur saying that oro tought sasuke nothing in the 3 years they were together?
He just confirmed that Sasuke indeed lost "Snake-like" techniques which were used only by Orochimaru. Where did he mention that Sasuke wasn't taught anything?

People, if you don't believe that Sasuke has no Snake like techniques now then we might as well not have believed that Minato was Naruto's father till about 439 or 440. So before Minato said he was Naruto's father(which is a known fact if you really know something about the Naruto manga) would you have said that "Oh wait we need Minato to confirm that he is indeed Naruto's father. For all we know Madara could be masquerading as Jiraiya."?
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