Naruto 448 Spoiler/ Prediction Discussion - Page 8

Myth · 05-17-2009, 11:22 PM

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1. Naruto frog katas have only shown they can still hit if he misses by two inches, not a foot lol. And if you know so much about gentle fist then should know that it attacks the internal organs and chakra system. So, no matter how hard the outside of the body is, the insides are still weak. Meaning that even if naruto with all of his SM powers gets too close a shot to the heart will put him on his ass like anyother shinobi.

2. Naruto isnt a strategist. He uses some tactics every now and then, but he doesnt actually analyse his opponent from the get go and formulate a strategy because of disadvantages hes notices.

3. Gentle fist doesnt just touch you. Neji inserts energy into a chakra point or organs and hes showed he can insert a huge chakra blast in the fight against himself. Go find it because my link thing isnt working damnet.

KYF the moment neji gets close is the moment he loses...

his gentle fist style is garbage especially against a base naruto he tried once but naruto has 2 chakras shut one off the other comes out ...

naruto is a in battle strategist read the pain fight

Gentle fist sucks ass naruto can dodge neji's shit easily especially since he knows how neji fights... or he can leap 1 thousand feet n throw a frs n kill neji...

TheSixthHokage · 05-17-2009, 11:24 PM

I've lost all respect for anyone who thinks Neji is anywhere near Sasuke and Naruto... seriously go read the manga!

Dagoro · 05-17-2009, 11:29 PM

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Serious fight. No Naruto sitting back watching Ma Toad and gama family beat on Neji or no crazy shit like that. Being jounin level means that neji is mentally aware of enough shinobi knowledge to be trusted with a squad. He is a thinker. Naruto is not, but that is the only way Naruto outsmarts his opponents when they underestimate him like they always do. Neji has fought naruto before and will not underestimate him. Naruto takes blows from every opponent. Neji will deliver. Naruto will win, only because he can last longer but neji will beat him up.

In all of Naruto's fights in p2 the only person who actually hit him was Pein. against Itachi it was all genjutsu. You need to get off anime fillers and pay attention to canon fights.

Neji has 3 moves: Kaiten, junken strikes and Vacuum palm.

Thats not nearly enough to deal with Someone like Naruto, base, kn or SM. Neji lost to freaking rasenganless Naruto, so please quit the assumptions and look at manga feats and battle capability.

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Sasuke is likely faster, though i doubt if Neji stayed at his same speed after witnessing the speed Rock Lee, his potentially catching up to him teammate has.

Your assuming things, Sasuke's speed feats dwarf anything Neji has ever done.

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Neji most definitely knows how to break genjutsu, dont need to see it, and his byaakuga gives him higher than your average chakra

Byukugan does not equall genjutsu immunity, and please, link anything backing up this claim that Neji has higher than average chakra. The guy is a taijutsu only ninja, whats so hard to understand about that ??

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Just because Sasuke can see Neji coming faster and he is faster, doesnt mean neji cant outsmart him like anyone else. All the power and speed in the world can be brought down by brains. Neji is the better thinker and has effective moves. He may not win, but it will be a near equal fight without MS abilities or Sage Mode. Shinobi mind rivals them with his Byakugan

Analytical ability means nothing if your eneme completely overwhelms you power wise.

Neji doesn't have the tools to stand up to Naruto and Sasuke since after the chunin exams, now they pretty much left him and the other 10 in the dust.

TheSixthHokage · 05-17-2009, 11:35 PM

^ Dagoro, your posts allow me to be lazy

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The Byakugan does not give higher chakra capacity and Neji has never shown a phenomenal amount of speed, particularly in comparison to Sasuke and SM Naruto. Naruto know has frog katas and FRS for close- and long-range domination, Neji is purely close combat. Sasuke on the other hand not only has genjutsu, but he has spectacular ninjutsu, speed and kenjutsu. Neji'd be dead in about 3 minutes against either of these guys... Neji is a shinobi, Sasuke and Naruto are monsters.

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 05-17-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Myth

KYF the moment neji gets close is the moment he loses...

his gentle fist style is garbage especially against a base naruto he tried once but naruto has 2 chakras shut one off the other comes out ...

naruto is a in battle strategist read the pain fight

Gentle fist sucks ass naruto can dodge neji's shit easily especially since he knows how neji fights... or he can leap 1 thousand feet n throw a frs n kill neji...

I recall neji kicking naruto ass with that trash called gentle fist, then telling the proctor to stop the match instead of delivering the final blow. Which gave naruto time to gather that kyuubi juice which still wasnt enough to beat neji. Naruto had to set a trap and ambush neji to finally beat him. Lol, gental fist sucks.

In the fight with pain naruto proved hes not a strategist. Naruto used so many things to take out just one realm even after the slug warned him about devas powers. now I admit naruto has his moment when he can come up with some one move ahead plans, but hes not a strategist.

Strategist think then fight. "Fist out think your opponent then out maneuver him". Naruto attacks with amazing power and only thinks whne he cant just overwhelm his opponent. Thats not a strategist Myth.

Yes naruto can throw six FRS, but can he land one? Neji has X-ray vision so smoke wont conceal anything and I doubt narutos going to be manifesting clones again without any smoke.

Anyways, Im not going to sit here and say Neji can beat naruto. However, Neji only needs to land one attack to a vital organ. So, wether hes fighting naruto, KB, sasuke, kakashi ect. They too will be put on their ass and in big trouble.

liondemon · 05-17-2009, 11:42 PM

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In all of Naruto's fights in p2 the only person who actually hit him was Pein. against Itachi it was all genjutsu. You need to get off anime fillers and pay attention to canon fights.

Neji has 3 moves: Kaiten, junken strikes and Vacuum palm.

Thats not nearly enough to deal with Someone like Naruto, base, kn or SM. Neji lost to freaking rasenganless Naruto, so please quit the assumptions and look at manga feats and battle capability.

Your assuming things, Sasuke's speed feats dwarf anything Neji has ever done.

Byukugan does not equall genjutsu immunity, and please, link anything backing up this claim that Neji has higher than average chakra. The guy is a taijutsu only ninja, whats so hard to understand about that ??

Analytical ability means nothing if your eneme completely overwhelms you power wise.

Neji doesn't have the tools to stand up to Naruto and Sasuke since after the chunin exams, now they pretty much left him and the other 10 in the dust.

Kakuzu almost took the boy heart and he always takes a beating like i said.

I wont argue with u because u see naruto and Sasuke now and keep bringing up the genin level neji. Im talking bout 3 years and 2 level up from there. U have to assume based on his statis compared to others in his amount of time, not to mention his potential he had when we last saw him. Most potential of all the Hyuugas as said by his uncle. Dint i originally say if Neji had a power up like they did? of course they left him behind. Stay with me and pay attention.

All kekkegenaki iusers have more than average chakra to do what they do and do it for as long as they can do it. But that's just me assuming again and since u only see "Manga fact" minus common sense, dont pay me any mind. If u cannot see A JOUNIN Neji at least holding his own NOW against "regiular" Naruto and Sasuke then we just disagree so donbt even respond to me. Their's no point.

Dagoro · 05-17-2009, 11:43 PM

I don't get why people make this comment " We don't know what _______ can't do since we haven't seen him/her go all out " so often.

It leaves room for over the top speculation. Canon is canon and thats about it. Naruto and Sasuke left the other Genin in the dust since the Chunin exams. Naruto gained a boss lvl summon and Sasuke learned Chidori, both dwarf anything the other 10 have ever done.

Its as simple as that.

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I wont argue with u because u see naruto and Sasuke now and keep bringing up the genin level neji. Im talking bout 3 years and 2 level up from there. U have to assume based on his statis compared to others in his amount of time, not to mention his potential he had when we last saw him. Most potential of all the Hyuugas as said by his uncle. Dint i originally say if Neji had a power up like they did? of course they left him behind. Stay with me and pay attention.

Neji is a side character, so if you're expecting him to gain abilities to rival the main characters don't hold your breath because it's not happening.

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All kekkegenaki iusers have more than average chakra to do what they do and do it for as long as they can do it.

Im sorry, can you prove this with a manga page ?? The Hyuga are Taijutsu specialists, they have nothing else.

The only clans said to be well rounded are the Senju and Uchiha.

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But that's just me assuming again and since u only see "Manga fact" minus common sense, dont pay me any mind. If u cannot see A JOUNIN Neji at least holding his own NOW against "regiular" Naruto and Sasuke then we just disagree so donbt even respond to me. Their's no point.

Your common sense is based entirely on what ifs. Take the 4 jounin who have pannel time as an example. Asuma, Gai and Kurenai are completely blown out of the water by Kakashi's manga feats and overall battle capabilities.

Just because Neji is a jounin it doesn't mean hes a power house, in fact he seems average like Asuma and Kurenai.

liondemon · 05-17-2009, 11:51 PM

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I don't get why people make this comment " We don't know what _______ can't do since we haven't seen him/her go all out " so often.

It leaves room for over the top speculation. Canon is canon and thats about it. Naruto and Sasuke left the other Genin in the dust since the Chunin exams. Naruto gained a boss lvl summon and Sasuke learned Chidori, both dwarf anything the other 10 have ever done.

Its as simple as that.

It also leaves room for ignorance. This is an imaginary story afterall. This is a prediction thread which is basically asking us to talk about something we dont know. It's a forum for an imaginary story Kishi makes up and reveals to us over time. Do u get why people make that comment now?

Dagoro · 05-17-2009, 11:52 PM

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It also leaves room for ignorance. This is an imaginary story afterall. This is a prediction thread which is basically asking us to talk about something we dont know. It's a forum for an imaginary story Kishi makes up and reveals to us over time. Do u get why people make that comment now?

Fanfic section is that way ------->

enjoy.

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 05-17-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagoro

I don't get why people make this comment " We don't know what _______ can't do since we haven't seen him/her go all out " so often.

It leaves room for over the top speculation. Canon is canon and thats about it. Naruto and Sasuke left the other Genin in the dust since the Chunin exams. Naruto gained a boss lvl summon and Sasuke learned Chidori, both dwarf anything the other 10 have ever done.

Its as simple as that.

"A skilled rock thrower can beat a amateur with a kunai". Power of a weapon doesnt mean everything, but how you use what you have. "skill"!

And Naruto, sasuke have had alot of development while neji has had none since the start of part 2. So, until neji actually gets a chance against a strong opponent one on one. Theres no proof nejis weak or super strong, but just strong because he the only genin to make jounin and even if neji didnt improve during the Time skip. Nejis still the only one that was able to beat a jounin "spider guy" without any help.

TheSixthHokage · 05-17-2009, 11:54 PM

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It also leaves room for ignorance. This is an imaginary story afterall. This is a prediction thread which is basically asking us to talk about something we dont know. It's a forum for an imaginary story Kishi makes up and reveals to us over time. Do u get why people make that comment now?

Even imaginary universes have rules and realities, though they may be fictitious. For example, if I said, Darth Maul molested 3 year-old Ewoks on Endor, you'd say "Darth Maul hasn't even been on Endor!" The same rule applies here, if it doesn't happen in the manga, it is speculation and is thus garbage.

Most stories* are imaginary btw.

Dagoro · 05-17-2009, 11:56 PM

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So, until neji actually gets a chance against a strong opponent one on one. Theres no proof nejis weak or super strong,

The same can be said about Tenten. For all we know she can stomp Madara with a nerf bat, see how easy it is to speculate ?

Canon is canon, thats how manga works.

liondemon · 05-17-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagoro

I don't get why people make this comment " We don't know what _______ can't do since we haven't seen him/her go all out " so often.

It leaves room for over the top speculation. Canon is canon and thats about it. Naruto and Sasuke left the other Genin in the dust since the Chunin exams. Naruto gained a boss lvl summon and Sasuke learned Chidori, both dwarf anything the other 10 have ever done.

Its as simple as that.

Neji is a side character, so if you're expecting him to gain abilities to rival the main characters don't hold your breath because it's not happening.

Im sorry, can you prove this with a manga page ?? The Hyuga are Taijutsu specialists, they have nothing else.

The only clans said to be well rounded are the Senju and Uchiha.

Your common sense is based entirely on what ifs. Take the 4 jounin who have pannel time as an example. Asuma, Gai and Kurenai are completely blown out of the water by Kakashi's manga feats and overall battle capabilities.

Just because Neji is a jounin it doesn't mean hes a power house, in fact he seems average like Asuma and Kurenai.

You attempt to twist what im saying to fit your agenda. Thanks but no thanks. Which way did u say the fanfic was again?

TheSixthHokage · 05-17-2009, 11:59 PM

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The same can be said about Tenten. For all we know she can stomp Madara with a nerf bat, see how easy it is to speculate ?

Canon is canon, thats how manga works.

I see it now...Tenten Shippuden!

Servo · 05-18-2009, 12:01 AM

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if I said, Darth Maul molested 3 year-old Ewoks on Endor, you'd say "Darth Maul hasn't even been on Endor!"

Lol.....that's slightly disturbing

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TheSixthHokage S-Ranked Shinobi Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hokage's Office Posts: 2,676 Thanks: 952 Thanked 1,017 Times in 587 Posts	Re: Naruto 448 Spoiler/ Prediction Discussion I've lost all respect for anyone who thinks Neji is anywhere near Sasuke and Naruto... seriously go read the manga! __________________

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TheSixthHokage S-Ranked Shinobi Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hokage's Office Posts: 2,676 Thanks: 952 Thanked 1,017 Times in 587 Posts	Re: Naruto 448 Spoiler/ Prediction Discussion ^ Dagoro, your posts allow me to be lazy . The Byakugan does not give higher chakra capacity and Neji has never shown a phenomenal amount of speed, particularly in comparison to Sasuke and SM Naruto. Naruto know has frog katas and FRS for close- and long-range domination, Neji is purely close combat. Sasuke on the other hand not only has genjutsu, but he has spectacular ninjutsu, speed and kenjutsu. Neji'd be dead in about 3 minutes against either of these guys... Neji is a shinobi, Sasuke and Naruto are monsters. __________________

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