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Old 05-27-2009, 07:43 PM   #16
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Umm yes he did you just weren't paying attention. Human Realm & Hell Realm both used different forms of genjutsu. The shared vision itself is a form of genjutsu. The memory block that was put on every shinobi in the rain village is a form of genjutsu. All of Animal realms summons were under a genjutsu (note the rinnegan eyes on all of them).
Human realm read minds which is a ninjutsu and hells jutsu turned out to be a ninjutsu summoning as well seeing as how it had physical form and naruto saw it without being in contact with hell realm. See, all ninjutsu.

And all of animal realms summons had chakra rods meaning nagato was controling them the same way he was controling the others. Note: anima realms summons wouldnt of needed the chakra rods if they were under genjutsu.

And the shared vision was apart of nagatos transmigration, not genjutsu.
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:50 PM   #17
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Human realm read minds which is a ninjutsu and hells jutsu turned out to be a ninjutsu summoning as well seeing as how it had physical form and naruto saw it without being in contact with hell realm. See, all ninjutsu..
Actually reading minds is obviously mental which classifies it as a genjutsu ron. About Hell Konohamaru didn't see it when the two leaf shinobi were being held by Hell. He was only aware of the statue once his bushin was caught. I don't recall Naruto actually seeing it ether.

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And all of animal realms summons had chakra rods meaning nagato was controling them the same way he was controling the others. Note: anima realms summons wouldnt of needed the chakra rods if they were under genjutsu.
Did they now? Show me because I don't recall piercings in every summon. Ether way he’s still controlling them via genjutsu.

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And the shared vision was apart of nagatos transmigration, not genjutsu.
Genjutsu are jutsu that are based on the mind or nervous system. They create paralysis, illusions, & can even be used to manipulate memories or control someone's actions. Which means his shared vision/controling multiple bodies is also a form of genjutsu. You're thinking to one dimensional with this get over the Uchiha fad their type of genjutsu is not the only type there is.

Also what about the memory block that was put on every rain shinobi? No comeback for that hehehe. Nagato's genjutsu abilities must be extremely high to maintain a memory block on his village.
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hell realms technique is genjutsu numb nuts thats why konohamaru wasn't able to see it naruto saw it cause he saw him reviving the body.....
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Actually reading minds is obviously mental which classifies it as a genjutsu ron. About Hell Konohamaru didn't see it when the two leaf shinobi were being held by Hell. He was only aware of the statue once his bushin was caught. I don't recall Naruto actually seeing it ether.


Did they now? Show me because I don't recall piercings in every summon. Ether way he’s still controlling them via genjutsu.


Genjutsu are jutsu that are based on the mind or nervous system. They create paralysis, illusions, & can even be used to manipulate memories or control someone's actions. Which means his shared vision/controling multiple bodies is also a form of genjutsu. You're thinking to one dimensional with this get over the Uchiha fad their type of genjutsu is not the only type there is.

Also what about the memory block that was put on every rain shinobi? No comeback for that hehehe. Nagato's genjutsu abilities must be extremely high to maintain a memory block on his village.

I agree with your read minds is genjutsu. The bodies were dead so their minds were useless. Negato sent his chakra with the piercings to manipulate their bodies. I see why u call it genjutsu since his eyes and life seems to be in each body, but the one Jiraiya sent back to Konoha kept the Rinnegan eyes even that far away from Negato. Negato somehow links them all with his Rinnegan but there are no brainwaves there to use genjutsu in a dead body.

Yeah all the summonings hadem.

Where can i find the memory block thing? I dont think u would say some something that wild if it wasnt in the manga, but when was it said. I never knew that. Maybe i did got high and forgot. But id like to read it again
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Actually reading minds is obviously mental which classifies it as a genjutsu ron. About Hell Konohamaru didn't see it when the two leaf shinobi were being held by Hell. He was only aware of the statue once his bushin was caught. I don't recall Naruto actually seeing it ether.
Oh really, lol. So human realm having the yamanakas mind reading ninjutsu is really a genjutsu? Proof?

And here naruto seeing hells summon proves its not genjutsuhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/433/12/ lol

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Did they now? Show me because I don't recall piercings in every summon. Ether way he’s still controlling them via genjutsu.
As you wish!http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/431/07/ The dog has one in the nose and the bull has one in the head and one in the back.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/431/04/ The rhino has one in the head.

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Genjutsu are jutsu that are based on the mind or nervous system. They create paralysis, illusions, & can even be used to manipulate memories or control someone's actions. Which means his shared vision/controling multiple bodies is also a form of genjutsu. You're thinking to one dimensional with this get over the Uchiha fad their type of genjutsu is not the only type there is.
This says otherwise!http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/428/13/

And real genjutsu dont require a ninjutsu to work like nagatos six path jutsu that just uses chakra rods with the rinnegans transmiration abilities to control the bodies and summons. Although nagato is controling like them like a genjutsu he clearly using his Ninjutsu to do it. Its already been ruled out that nagato was using genjutsu to control the dead bodies.


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Also what about the memory block that was put on every rain shinobi? No comeback for that hehehe. Nagato's genjutsu abilities must be extremely high to maintain a memory block on his village.
What memory block The villagers didnt know who pain is because hes never revealed himself to them, nothing else!
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:24 PM   #21
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^Fail

Naruto saw it because he was using it as a revival u want proof to how nobody else saw it go read up on konahamru and ebisu... as always u "miss" things but post "FKATS"...
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Re: the true power of rinnengan?!?!?

the rinnegan is said to allow the user to use every elemental type of jutsu. im assuming that the rinnengan also allows the user to use both the ying and yang chakra elements that kakashi briefly mentioned before. i drew this conclusion since nagato can use various soul type jutsus which doesnt fall into an elemental type category, im assuming it belongs more under the ying and yang categories.

the rinnengan may be classified as a doujutsu but that doesnt necessarily mean his abilities have to be used through his eyes... his eyes allow his body to use all types of elemental and ying and yang jutsu's. his eyes are more of a symbol of his abilities rather than a source

on a personal note....i think the rinnengan's true ability is absolute chakra control......able to focus the chakra to be compatible with various types of elements and the ying yang side of the chakra...he's able to send his chakra into other bodies and control them....his summon can take souls and contain them
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the rinnegan is said to allow the user to use every elemental type of jutsu. im assuming that the rinnengan also allows the user to use both the ying and yang chakra elements that kakashi briefly mentioned before. i drew this conclusion since nagato can use various soul type jutsus which doesnt fall into an elemental type category, im assuming it belongs more under the ying and yang categories.

the rinnengan may be classified as a doujutsu but that doesnt necessarily mean his abilities have to be used through his eyes... his eyes allow his body to use all types of elemental and ying and yang jutsu's. his eyes are more of a symbol of his abilities rather than a source

on a personal note....i think the rinnengan's true ability is absolute chakra control......able to focus the chakra to be compatible with various types of elements and the ying yang side of the chakra...he's able to send his chakra into other bodies and control them....his summon can take souls and contain them
That's why the legend of Rokudou Sennin, the original Rin'nengan user, was considered the founder of the ninja world because he was the one that created the art of ninjutsu which is basically the ability to manipulate chakra.
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God I hate cocksucking Sasuke fanboys.

Rinnegan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Sharingan(there, cry)
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It is stupid to question that, ffs.
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Oh no, the gay dick-wad Sasuke is going blind but he can still use Tsu and Ama, hahahaha he is the strongest, hahahaha, I'm such a fanboy.

WTF?

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the question was..what are the real powers of rinnengan...ive seen a lot of powers from pain but none look like actual doujutsu ...the other 2 dojutsus actually involve the eye doing something

oh also myth jiraiya trapped pain under genjutsu just fine...they are dead bodies but nagato sees through them all therefore they get caught into genjutsu....techniqually the rod disturbing thing is a genjutsu but not that good a one...the looking through each eyes is definitely not genjutsu....also the animals thing...come on its the same thing as the six paths those animals are dead pain is just controlling them through the rods

this wasnt a topic of which is better sharingan or rinnengan i was just using the other 2 as an example to show that the abilities of rinnengan doesnt seem like a doujutsu

oh i forgot to point something important out in the first post
most of what nagato can do is because of the STATUE !!!!! the rods help him control a lot of things...the so called "genjutsu " u ppl call it is also because of the rods touching someones body...i bet the soul sucking thing is also becuase of the statue....thats why im unsure as to the real power of rinnengan ...coz a lot of it may not have happened if it wasnt for the statue

so it begs the question is the statue a power of the rinnengan like susanoo?

the only realy technique we have seen that even makes remote sense as the power of rinnengan is shinra tensei and chibaku tensei....nagato used shinra tensei before he got stabbed by the statue so it proves the statue has nothing to do with that one

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its real power is to master every element thus allowing u to use or learn all jutsu

speaking of amaterasu for pain to counter it is so fuckign easy all he needs to do is not move and use bansho tennin to draw the user in thus killing the user with his own jutsu....

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Nah man, Amateratsu is BOSS. Its no freaking hot and awesome it would burn even gravity.
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Nah man, Amateratsu is BOSS. Its no freaking hot and awesome it would burn even gravity.
Neji's Kaiten and sasuke awesome chidori sword can deal with it no problem buddy.

don't forget that amnaterasu wasn't from a 100% sasuke cause god only knows what MENTAL damage sasuke received from itachi's fight since itachi didn't hurt him physically..
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Don't forget Yamato's wooden wall, it can stop FRS and Bijuu chakra cannon in their tracks with its awesomeness.
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