a suggestion for naruto

phyomin · 06-26-2009, 11:34 AM

in Sage Mode, Naruto could even throw Fuuton Rasengan (Very dense & Sharp Power. in order words, millions blades of wind) with his bare hands.
so in normal mode, it could be very possible that he could catch his enemy's sword with his bare hand.
do someone want to say Sage Mode and normal mode r different.
but will u remember even Pa & Ma was amazed by him when he threw that technique. they were the master of Sage Techniques for very very long time.
it isn't just because of Sage Mode. Both Sage Mode & his Talent on Sage Mode than others r the reasons for being able to throw Fuuton Rasengan.
with such talent, it is not wonder that he could catch an enemy's sword with his bare hands.
No. not even with his bare hands. with the bare hands of just his clone.

even the chakra combination power of shape transformation & nature transformation can't hurt naruto.
i wonder whether Amaterasu could hurt Sage Mode Naruto or not.
i think no harm. No one beat him Naruto in Sage Mode till now.

orochimaru wanted to learn all secrct techniques hidden in Konoha.
this could b a link to naruto. by training any technique using sage mode kage bushin, he could learn any technique in no time.
look at the past times, the first hokage was the greatest 'cos he knew thousand of techniques even MSharingan couldn't follow up.
so to beat up Madara, learning all the jutsus of first hokage in Naruto's own way is the right and most safe way to walk.

Dagoro · 06-26-2009, 11:38 AM

This will never happen.

Kishi pretty much gimped the Kb method after Futon training. Your logic is one so many fans have complained about, because in theory Naruto can learn pretty much anything in a very short time and hone his skills in all areas in a short time. Yet Kishi won't grant him the full potential of the training, which is understandable but beckons the question

Why was the method invented in the first place if Naruto can't use it freely ??

superninja · 06-26-2009, 01:14 PM

I am against Naruto being invulnerable to attacks while he is in sage mode. He obviously becomes more resistant, but there is a limit. He really didn't get hit too many times by Pein at all.
Also there is a limit to learning and training, that limit is the natural affinity of a character. Anyway, Naruto is not Orochimaru so that he wants to learn, he only wants to be strong, not wise or knowledgeable (thank you spelling check). Naruto is naive atm. But maybe not so naive. I am sure in time he will know many jutsus Jiraiya did, but he will never learn outside his affinity. Meaning, he will know frog jutsus, rasengan, sage mode, wind, maybe another element, kage bunshins, few new moves, that's it. Naruto is close to his limit now, he will get better, but not drastically better like he did so far.

ACt · 06-26-2009, 01:49 PM

Kb method will probably become the loop-hole explanation for whenever Naruto pulls out something new. Or, if this manga is destined for part iii, if there's a 2-3 year gap in storyline, Naruto can bust out a bunch of new techniques to make the storyline more varied. Especially if he is hokage - which I feel is more of the end of the Naruto story because, what's so fun about watching Naruto run a village?

I disagree that Naruto is at a limit - the one big issue that still looms over him is the true nature of the seal or "Naruto's Key" as it was referred to in 370. I had first thought Minato's appearance in Naruto's head was the beginning of this, but after reviewing, there's more - especially with the referral to "that jutsu" by Jiraya. I wasn't on the forums when this issue came out, so I don't know what people here thought, but with the addition of SM adding a new chakra, controlling the Kyuubi's chakra, rather than having it control Naruto, seems the likely next power jump.

The "Naruto's Key" exchange begins at ch. 370 pg. 6, and continues for quite a few pages.

Frog_Hermit · 06-26-2009, 02:09 PM

hah, naruto learned Kb in few hours, masterd rasengan in only one week

only thing naruto used that multi Kb jutsu for is to learn how to manipulate his wind chakra and nothing else

what im trying to say is that naruto already shown that he is able to master some rather difficult jutsus without Kb or any other "trick" ^^

Dagoro · 06-26-2009, 02:30 PM

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Naruto is naive atm. But maybe not so naive. I am sure in time he will know many jutsus Jiraiya did, but he will never learn outside his affinity. Meaning, he will know frog jutsus, rasengan, sage mode, wind, maybe another element, kage bunshins, few new moves, that's it. Naruto is close to his limit now, he will get better, but not drastically better like he did so far

Hello Kishi hows it going ??

Please, don't raise this nonsense.

Naruto close to his limit ?? Have you not read the DB ??

First of all lets get something straight, This was the first time Naruto used SM in battle.

Think of it as his hollow mask, with practice he'll be able to hold a charge for longer periods of time and increase is KB limit as well.

Fukasasu said " as of now you can only hold SM for 5 minutes " not you can hold it for 5minutes indefinitely.

Naruto still has to go through key training which will open an infinite amount of possbilities by granting him control of all that chakra.

So yeah, your little " hes at his limit " crap is ridiculous.

Naruto is only at 27, that leaves a ridiculous amount of room to grow.

uchihademon91 · 06-26-2009, 04:37 PM

im sure you meant 17 dagaro......not 27....if ur talkin about age there

i agree.... naruto is in no way near his limit..... he barely learned sage mode and had very little time to practice using it. his control of natural energy and his arsenal of sage techniques hasn't even begun really

to top it off he has yet to master control over the kyuubi's chakra.....like killer bee and a few of the other jinchurikis.

and i know you guys haven't forgot the kyuubi sage eyes....... we merely got a glimpse of that power ( when he was able to supress nagatos chakra via the rod at such close range). so naruto is in no way near his so called " limit "

P.S. as if the boy who could accomplish anything just because he believes he can, has a limit. ha ha, the thought of it is laughable

Dagoro · 06-26-2009, 04:42 PM

Im talking about stats not age.

Naruto is only at 27, the max is 35.

uchihademon91 · 06-26-2009, 04:53 PM

oh...i got you now.....ok my bad on that

neo35000 · 06-27-2009, 02:40 PM

naruto needs to have an enhanced learning ability in order to keep up with the copy feature of the sharingan.I hope he learns more of his fathers techs now that he knows his heritage.
if naruto is ever to become hokage he has to have at least a thousand jutsu for different situations like all the hokage before him.
5th is a genius medical ninja=lots of medical jutsu that can be aplied offensively like in tsunade vs kabuto.
4th genius ninja that created many jutsu incuding one that requires self sacrifice.
3rd genius scholar ninja that mastered all the jutsu in the village.
1&2 unique ninja that could control bijuu and wood respec...
kakashi is a viable choice for hokage because he has mastered over 1000 jutsu using the sharingan.
naruto knows a handful of jutsu which if he were to fight with someone with simillar body hardening tech to sage mode like madara being able to block a sword with his hand means he will not be greatly affected by narutos strongest tech frs.

Dagoro · 06-27-2009, 02:49 PM

Wtf are you talking about ??

There is no jutsu requirement for becoming Hokage.

Ironclad · 06-27-2009, 03:13 PM

Perhaps Naruto is a kinetic-tactile learner by definition. Seeing, hearing or other sensory input may not work with him as good as opposed to first hand experience trying with his own hands.

Like repeated trying, exercise for understanding: kinda like how Hinata and Rock Lee seem to have attained their level of skill. Others seem to grasp stuff faster by observing it, like how Sasuke copied Lee (and for exemption later on Naruto and his own combo)...

The Sharingan seems to be like an instantaneous Visual input for the learner. Add that and that the two important Uchiha kids are by definition genius level ninjas....

stubborn_d0nkey · 07-01-2009, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frog_Hermit

naruto masterd rasengan in only one week

lol, i ejoy a good laugh, thanks

AnbuKakashi · 07-01-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagoro

Wtf are you talking about ??

There is no jutsu requirement for becoming Hokage.

LMAO that was to funny.

wait wait let me act like I know nothing about Naruto either.
How do you master the hokage-no-jutsu?

bernzion · 07-01-2009, 07:46 PM

simple man.....just patiently search the huge library in konoha surely u can find it then master it hten you will be the next hokage someday....LOL

06-26-2009, 11:34 AM	#1
phyomin Genin Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 31 Posts: 64 Thanks: 3 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	a suggestion for naruto in Sage Mode, Naruto could even throw Fuuton Rasengan (Very dense & Sharp Power. in order words, millions blades of wind) with his bare hands. so in normal mode, it could be very possible that he could catch his enemy's sword with his bare hand. do someone want to say Sage Mode and normal mode r different. but will u remember even Pa & Ma was amazed by him when he threw that technique. they were the master of Sage Techniques for very very long time. it isn't just because of Sage Mode. Both Sage Mode & his Talent on Sage Mode than others r the reasons for being able to throw Fuuton Rasengan. with such talent, it is not wonder that he could catch an enemy's sword with his bare hands. No. not even with his bare hands. with the bare hands of just his clone. even the chakra combination power of shape transformation & nature transformation can't hurt naruto. i wonder whether Amaterasu could hurt Sage Mode Naruto or not. i think no harm. No one beat him Naruto in Sage Mode till now. orochimaru wanted to learn all secrct techniques hidden in Konoha. this could b a link to naruto. by training any technique using sage mode kage bushin, he could learn any technique in no time. look at the past times, the first hokage was the greatest 'cos he knew thousand of techniques even MSharingan couldn't follow up. so to beat up Madara, learning all the jutsus of first hokage in Naruto's own way is the right and most safe way to walk.

06-26-2009, 11:38 AM	#2
Dagoro Daifunka Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Braving the New World. Posts: 8,802 Thanks: 72 Thanked 7,301 Times in 2,908 Posts	Re: a suggestion for naruto This will never happen. Kishi pretty much gimped the Kb method after Futon training. Your logic is one so many fans have complained about, because in theory Naruto can learn pretty much anything in a very short time and hone his skills in all areas in a short time. Yet Kishi won't grant him the full potential of the training, which is understandable but beckons the question Why was the method invented in the first place if Naruto can't use it freely ?? __________________

06-26-2009, 01:14 PM	#3
superninja ANBU Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,841 Thanks: 190 Thanked 691 Times in 554 Posts	Re: a suggestion for naruto I am against Naruto being invulnerable to attacks while he is in sage mode. He obviously becomes more resistant, but there is a limit. He really didn't get hit too many times by Pein at all. Also there is a limit to learning and training, that limit is the natural affinity of a character. Anyway, Naruto is not Orochimaru so that he wants to learn, he only wants to be strong, not wise or knowledgeable (thank you spelling check). Naruto is naive atm. But maybe not so naive. I am sure in time he will know many jutsus Jiraiya did, but he will never learn outside his affinity. Meaning, he will know frog jutsus, rasengan, sage mode, wind, maybe another element, kage bunshins, few new moves, that's it. Naruto is close to his limit now, he will get better, but not drastically better like he did so far. __________________ The great off panel war has begun...also called the war of one panel because most fights started and ended in one panel. Also Kin and Gin as substitute for kyuubi chakra (the greatest amount of chakra in Naruto world) is something Kishi pulled out of his ass. I lost major respect. It would be like near the end of LOTR there happens to be another slightly weaker ring and Sauron is like "that will do". It kind of shits on everything established up to that point. It kind of insults my intelligence.

06-26-2009, 01:49 PM	#4
ACt Heart Wizard Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Halls of Irreverence Posts: 3,285 Thanks: 5,339 Thanked 18,806 Times in 4,888 Posts	Re: a suggestion for naruto Kb method will probably become the loop-hole explanation for whenever Naruto pulls out something new. Or, if this manga is destined for part iii, if there's a 2-3 year gap in storyline, Naruto can bust out a bunch of new techniques to make the storyline more varied. Especially if he is hokage - which I feel is more of the end of the Naruto story because, what's so fun about watching Naruto run a village? I disagree that Naruto is at a limit - the one big issue that still looms over him is the true nature of the seal or "Naruto's Key" as it was referred to in 370. I had first thought Minato's appearance in Naruto's head was the beginning of this, but after reviewing, there's more - especially with the referral to "that jutsu" by Jiraya. I wasn't on the forums when this issue came out, so I don't know what people here thought, but with the addition of SM adding a new chakra, controlling the Kyuubi's chakra, rather than having it control Naruto, seems the likely next power jump. The "Naruto's Key" exchange begins at ch. 370 pg. 6, and continues for quite a few pages.

06-26-2009, 02:09 PM	#5
Frog_Hermit Chuunin Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 470 Thanks: 4 Thanked 89 Times in 43 Posts	Re: a suggestion for naruto hah, naruto learned Kb in few hours, masterd rasengan in only one week only thing naruto used that multi Kb jutsu for is to learn how to manipulate his wind chakra and nothing else what im trying to say is that naruto already shown that he is able to master some rather difficult jutsus without Kb or any other "trick" ^^

06-26-2009, 04:37 PM	#7
uchihademon91 Chuunin Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 22 Posts: 529 Thanks: 64 Thanked 123 Times in 93 Posts	Re: a suggestion for naruto im sure you meant 17 dagaro......not 27....if ur talkin about age there i agree.... naruto is in no way near his limit..... he barely learned sage mode and had very little time to practice using it. his control of natural energy and his arsenal of sage techniques hasn't even begun really to top it off he has yet to master control over the kyuubi's chakra.....like killer bee and a few of the other jinchurikis. and i know you guys haven't forgot the kyuubi sage eyes....... we merely got a glimpse of that power ( when he was able to supress nagatos chakra via the rod at such close range). so naruto is in no way near his so called " limit " P.S. as if the boy who could accomplish anything just because he believes he can, has a limit. ha ha, the thought of it is laughable __________________ "We define reality as what we accept as truth and correct. What is truth, what is it to be correct."- Itachi Uchiha

06-26-2009, 04:42 PM	#8
Dagoro Daifunka Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Braving the New World. Posts: 8,802 Thanks: 72 Thanked 7,301 Times in 2,908 Posts	Re: a suggestion for naruto Im talking about stats not age. Naruto is only at 27, the max is 35. __________________

06-26-2009, 04:53 PM	#9
uchihademon91 Chuunin Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 22 Posts: 529 Thanks: 64 Thanked 123 Times in 93 Posts	Re: a suggestion for naruto oh...i got you now.....ok my bad on that __________________ "We define reality as what we accept as truth and correct. What is truth, what is it to be correct."- Itachi Uchiha

06-27-2009, 02:40 PM	#10
neo35000 ANBU Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MALTA Posts: 55 Thanks: 15 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: a suggestion for naruto naruto needs to have an enhanced learning ability in order to keep up with the copy feature of the sharingan.I hope he learns more of his fathers techs now that he knows his heritage. if naruto is ever to become hokage he has to have at least a thousand jutsu for different situations like all the hokage before him. 5th is a genius medical ninja=lots of medical jutsu that can be aplied offensively like in tsunade vs kabuto. 4th genius ninja that created many jutsu incuding one that requires self sacrifice. 3rd genius scholar ninja that mastered all the jutsu in the village. 1&2 unique ninja that could control bijuu and wood respec... kakashi is a viable choice for hokage because he has mastered over 1000 jutsu using the sharingan. naruto knows a handful of jutsu which if he were to fight with someone with simillar body hardening tech to sage mode like madara being able to block a sword with his hand means he will not be greatly affected by narutos strongest tech frs.

06-27-2009, 02:49 PM	#11
Dagoro Daifunka Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Braving the New World. Posts: 8,802 Thanks: 72 Thanked 7,301 Times in 2,908 Posts	Re: a suggestion for naruto Wtf are you talking about ?? There is no jutsu requirement for becoming Hokage. __________________

06-27-2009, 03:13 PM	#12
Ironclad Jounin Join Date: Feb 2009 Age: 28 Posts: 832 Thanks: 37 Thanked 207 Times in 125 Posts	Re: a suggestion for naruto Perhaps Naruto is a kinetic-tactile learner by definition. Seeing, hearing or other sensory input may not work with him as good as opposed to first hand experience trying with his own hands. Like repeated trying, exercise for understanding: kinda like how Hinata and Rock Lee seem to have attained their level of skill. Others seem to grasp stuff faster by observing it, like how Sasuke copied Lee (and for exemption later on Naruto and his own combo)... The Sharingan seems to be like an instantaneous Visual input for the learner. Add that and that the two important Uchiha kids are by definition genius level ninjas....

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bernzion b0ynextd00r Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: in a place where i belong Age: 22 Posts: 141 Thanks: 3 Thanked 29 Times in 28 Posts	Re: a suggestion for naruto simple man.....just patiently search the huge library in konoha surely u can find it then master it hten you will be the next hokage someday....LOL

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