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Old 07-03-2009, 09:24 AM   #76
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You really don't get it do you. I understand all that crap which is the reason why I DON'T LIKE NARUTO. He's a fucking pussy that has a retarded view based on his profession. You trying to explain to me these childish concepts really isn't getting you anywhere because simply put I can't fucking stand them. Character's like Nagato who're supposed to be killers turn out to be pussies because this spazz opens his mouth about piece, love, & cycles of hatred. Taking a beating for someone you obsess over is retarded. Naruto is a fucking ninja so he should try acting like one for a change. What good would it do Sasuke if those Cloud ninja happened to kill Naruto during that beating? This is why I'm a Sasuke fan I swear I don't how allot of you stomach Naruto's crap.
The most important thing in the whole world is the friendship the love and the piece because if you haven't anybody who love you that's a really bad feeling. And if the world have someone as Naruto who can reach that the bad people become good than why should kill them?
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The most important thing in the whole world is the friendship the love and the piece because if you haven't anybody who love you that's a really bad feeling. And if the world have someone as Naruto who can reach that the bad people become good than why should kill them?
Because a story is allot more entertaining when a villain could actually die with their convictions in tact. So I say kill them without remorse because it kills the story with that alternate solution. If Kishi portrays a character as crazy killer that wants to gain peace through fear, kill to feel alive, or whatever then let them be die with those characteristics in tact. Don't turn them into bitches just because they got mind fucked by a 16 year old. What's Naruto going to do with Danzou & Madara? Talk to them long enough until they see his way of thinking & join the circle of spazzes?
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team samui is irrelevant the order to kill sasuke is valid for all ninja villages changing team samui's minds will not protect sasuke at all.
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Danzo = Obito?!

"Something for my right arm and eye!"

Oh shit, I'm tired of these hints and dead-ends, just tell us dammit!
Yeah, this whole thing is starting to get rather frustrating.

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& that is why Naruto is a spazz. Ninja's are born to be killers. They train in the art of murder.
Someone clearly hasn't paying attention to this series. Your view isn't just the opposite of the character, Naruto. It's the opposite of the entire moral and story that Kishi's trying to tell here.
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Ok chapter. More of a segue chapter than anything, hopefully leading to something cool. As for the Naruto ass kicking, not what would have preferred. But that's Naruto for you. Besides, he's taken a lot worse beatings than these two losers can deal out. He will be Kyuubi healed in no time.
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first I want to know which friends of Naruto besides Sakura would really care or want revenge if sasuke is killed. Hes a rogue ninja get over it. And I guess that Naruto doesnt realize that if his ideals come true then that would make ninjas obsolete which would destroy most of the villages economies.

And Ive been seeing alot of suigestsu getting his ass kicked by the new 7 swordsman. No doubt that hes strong but te only really time weve seen sui fight was against killerbee when team sasuke got demolished so its hard to gauge his level
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Yeah, this whole thing is starting to get rather frustrating.

Someone clearly hasn't paying attention to this series. Your view isn't just the opposite of the character, Naruto. It's the opposite of the entire moral and story that Kishi's trying to tell here.
Someone clearly doesn't understand what I'm getting at.I DON"T LIKE NARUTO! I don't like his way of thinking. I don't like the moral part of this story. It's fucking crap & cheapens the manga in general.
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Because a story is allot more entertaining when a villain could actually die with their convictions in tact. So I say kill them without remorse because it kills the story with that alternate solution. If Kishi portrays a character as crazy killer that wants to gain peace through fear, kill to feel alive, or whatever then let them be die with those characteristics in tact. Don't turn them into bitches just because they got mind fucked by a 16 year old. What's Naruto going to do with Danzou & Madara? Talk to them long enough until they see his way of thinking & join the circle of spazzes?
Anyway I think that sometime the convince is better than the killing. And Naruto always was a person who would like to save his friends and his village. And I think he won't kill Team Samui because he want the peace on the whole world.
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Anyway I think that sometime the convince is better than the killing. And Naruto always was a person who would like to save his friends and his village. And I think he won't kill Team Samui because he want the peace on the whole world.
but would you rather read a manga where naruto goes around preaching peace or would you rather see tons of fighting?
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but would you rather read a manga where naruto goes around preaching peace or would you rather see tons of fighting?
I rather read the manga. I'm a girl who like seeing tons of emotions and love and friendships and such peaceful thing. And I don't like fights then when the people in that is emotionless. I like that if some fighting because he wanting some good thing or wanting save someone.
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but would you rather read a manga where naruto goes around preaching peace or would you rather see tons of fighting?
Naruto's a big emo-loser. now more emo than the emo-loser sasuke. I say i like him more as an idiot better than being another emo talking about hatred and receiving punches just to prove how a big misreable pussy he is.
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But Kishimoto differentiates between those who have been morally mislead, e.g. Nagato and Sasuke, with those who are morally decadent, such as Orochimaru and Sasori. The reason Pain was turned into a "pansy," was because Kishimoto is trying to bring a bit of versatility to his characters. Having every villain as a stereotypical "I drink puppy blood" enemy, is not only unrealistic but way too predictable. Personally, Gaara and Nagato were the two best villains for me since I saw how they were made. They weren't born as monsters, they were made into them.

Just remember that many Naruto villains - Orochimaru, Sasori, Deidera, Hidan, Kakuzu, etc etc, were killed without a second glance because they were just evil.

As for Vengeance's attack on Naruto, I can sympathize to a degree. The problem with Naruto's character is he's supposed to transcend typical patterns of human behaviour, aggression and counter-aggression. So as we are all typical humans, we are bound to find it annoying that he's acting differently from us. I think this was a decent move by Kishimoto, I mean, what else can Naruto really say? "Jee, sorry about Sasuke, how about we pray in the sunshine together?"

On the flip-side, I can't understand Sasuke because my goal after finding out my brother went through hell for Konoha, would be to protect it no matter what... I don't understand this anti-Senju rant he has been going on, if the Uchiha were to revolt, Konoha would be destroyed and the Fourth Shinobi World War would have begun. Millions would have died because of the Uchiha, so how can he not that Konoha really had little choice?
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But Kishimoto differentiates between those who have been morally mislead, e.g. Nagato and Sasuke, with those who are morally decadent, such as Orochimaru and Sasori. The reason Pain was turned into a "pansy," was because Kishimoto is trying to bring a bit of versatility to his characters. Having every villain as a stereotypical "I drink puppy blood" enemy, is not only unrealistic but way too predictable. Personally, Gaara and Nagato were the two best villains for me since I saw how they were made. They weren't born as monsters, they were made into them.

Just remember that many Naruto villains - Orochimaru, Sasori, Deidera, Hidan, Kakuzu, etc etc, were killed without a second glance because they were just evil.

As for Vengeance's attack on Naruto, I can sympathize to a degree. The problem with Naruto's character is he's supposed to transcend typical patterns of human behaviour, aggression and counter-aggression. So as we are all typical humans, we are bound to find it annoying that he's acting differently from us. I think this was a decent move by Kishimoto, I mean, what else can Naruto really say? "Jee, sorry about Sasuke, how about we pray in the sunshine together?"

On the flip-side, I can't understand Sasuke because my goal after finding out my brother went through hell for Konoha, would be to protect it no matter what... I don't understand this anti-Senju rant he has been going on, if the Uchiha were to revolt, Konoha would be destroyed and the Fourth Shinobi World War would have begun. Millions would have died because of the Uchiha, so how can he not that Konoha really had little choice?
I just want kishi to have the character of naruto grow up and realize that sasuke isnt his friend anymore and he should just let go.
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I just want kishi to have the character of naruto grow up and realize that sasuke isnt his friend anymore and he should just let go.
I think Sasuke isn't grown up yet and if he will maybe he will regret that he go away from Konoha and turned his back for Naruto Sakura and the others.
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But Kishimoto differentiates between those who have been morally mislead, e.g. Nagato and Sasuke, with those who are morally decadent, such as Orochimaru and Sasori. The reason Pain was turned into a "pansy," was because Kishimoto is trying to bring a bit of versatility to his characters. Having every villain as a stereotypical "I drink puppy blood" enemy, is not only unrealistic but way too predictable. Personally, Gaara and Nagato were the two best villains for me since I saw how they were made. They weren't born as monsters, they were made into them.
I can understand what you're saying however it's been done to not only Nagato but Gaara & Zabuza as well. Pain on the other hand was supposed to be a major villain without remorse. He didn't hesitate to kill the man who saved his life (Jiraiya), didn't hesitate to merc all of Hanzou's family & friends, & didn't hesitate to blow up Konoha for revenge. Yet he has a 2 minute speech from Naruto & he suddenly feels bad? I'd expect that shit from Sasuke since he's yet to be fully submerged in darkness but not Nagato. That's just bad fucking writing.
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Just remember that many Naruto villains - Orochimaru, Sasori, Deidera, Hidan, Kakuzu, etc etc, were killed without a second glance because they were just evil.
The only one Naruto actually killed here was Kakazu. The others didn't have a chance to hear Naruto's speech.
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As for Vengeance's attack on Naruto, I can sympathize to a degree. The problem with Naruto's character is he's supposed to transcend typical patterns of human behaviour, aggression and counter-aggression. So as we are all typical humans, we are bound to find it annoying that he's acting differently from us. I think this was a decent move by Kishimoto, I mean, what else can Naruto really say? "Jee, sorry about Sasuke, how about we pray in the sunshine together?"
He could have not taken a beating for Sasuke. Naruto didn't need to tell them shit I agree however why does he need to make them feel better? He already offered to help find their master so they should be kissing his arse instead of creating tension between these two villages. He could say what hope do you think you have against Sasuke if you can't even defeat me. Then after saying that beat the crap out of both of them & explain that he'll handle Sasuke his own way. Be a fucking man & not an obsessive fan girl.
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On the flip-side, I can't understand Sasuke because my goal after finding out my brother went through hell for Konoha, would be to protect it no matter what... I don't understand this anti-Senju rant he has been going on, if the Uchiha were to revolt, Konoha would be destroyed and the Fourth Shinobi World War would have begun. Millions would have died because of the Uchiha, so how can he not that Konoha really had little choice?
Why protect Konoha when they're partly responsible for the death of your people? Just because Itachi did it on orders doesn't change the fact that he killed everyone Sasuke was close to at the time. Sasuke is supposed to just follow his brothers way just because he happened to be protecting Senju? Fuck that shit if someone tolled you that your brother killed everyone you ever loved based on orders from these people you'd actually side with them instead of staying true to your convictions? What a load of crap TSH Sasuke is justified with his current actions.
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