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Old 09-04-2009, 02:03 PM   #76
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Though I think a Rasengan to the face would give even the Kyuubi one hell of a headache. Nothing Minato had other than the RDS could feasibly incapacitate or kill the Fox, but what he could do is try to stall and weaken it. The Sanbi was knocked out by a minefield of Deidara's making, while the Kyuubi is 3x stronger at least, Minato may have not been able to knock it out, but seeing the methods behind the use of the RDS, I would think he had done something to slow down and weaken the Fox before he realized he couldn't win, and sealed it.
u can't tire something that has unlimited amounts of chakra nd u can't injure something that would regenerate before u can get off another attack. It's the ultimate weapon.. no weakness its just a machine with no limit of power it can keep going nd going nd going...
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the only way to stop a biiju is to knock out the jinchuriki so that they can't focus their biiju's power. and since were talking about the kyuubi without naruto. there's just no way to drain its chakra since it's made of chakra. it might as well just vaporize into the air
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Old 09-04-2009, 02:13 PM   #78
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the only way to stop a biiju is to knock out the jinchuriki so that they can't focus their biiju's power. and since were talking about the kyuubi without naruto. there's just no way to drain its chakra since it's made of chakra. it might as well just vaporize into the air
its not made of chakra it has a body as well without a body it WOULD JUST vaporize into the air.
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so did it go rinnegan > byakugan > sharingan?
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its not made of chakra it has a body as well without a body it WOULD JUST vaporize into the air.
ok ya i guess your right.

i think the sharingan has proven itself to be of more use than the byakugan since shippuuden
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so did it go rinnegan > byakugan > sharingan?
No.

Rinnegan >>> Rinnegan >>> Rinnegan

Byakugan > Sharingan (maybe as its not a confirmed fact yet)

But Byakugan and Sharingan is not from Rinnegan given there is no evidence or any link.

People are just making it up that Rinnegan > byakugan > sharingan which is not true again because there is no evidence.
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ya i don't know why people are saying byakugan comes from rinnegan or sharingan or whatever, i thought there would be something about that in this chapter but nothing so i don't know how people got to talking about it
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Well nice chapter, some fighting and some storydwadling. However, I bet that Madara either told some lies or at least cut out some important parts. He probably wants to manipulate Naruto in thinking there is no chance for Sasuke to redeem such he can control Sasuke for his "Moon eye plan"/syncing with Gedo Maso easier. As we know this won't work so easily but I just wonder what Naruto will say to Madara but I am sure it even surprises Kakashi/Yamato.
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A fine chapter with some development and some average fighting. I think it's +1 to team Sasuke for knocking out one of the other team. However, one gets the idea that you need the Amaterasu to beat the Raikage. I am also confused why just a regular genjutsu was put strain on Sasuke's eye. He must be getting weaker already.

I'm OK with the whole Naruto having Senju and the destine battles, but did the Senju have to believe the ninja path should be "love"?? Is that the correct translation? I mean, hard work, understanding, knowledge, strength of character, strength in numbers/bonds - all that would have made sense in ninja arts. But love??? Seems a bit washy.

Pr. Frink "According to the gas chromatograph, the secret ingredient is... Love!? Who's been screwing with this thing?

I'm sure Madara is just messing with Naruto to force a battle as has already been mentioned. Not sure why, but hey... it'll be a nice dust up. Also, how long can Kakashi keep that Chidori going? I mean, he took in the whole Itachi story with it in his hand!
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Also, how long can Kakashi keep that Chidori going? I mean, he took in the whole Itachi story with it in his hand!
Yeah, he is just messing with Tobi to scare him off..
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Biiju are beings of pure chakra they form bodies that are created from their own chakra. They do not need bodies to exist. As seen with Naruto he grew bones & flesh out of thin air simply because of the fox's chakra. Are you now telling me that the Kyuubi's body just came out of his arse & was sealed along with the chakra? Biiju can’t be killed because they’re beings of pure chakra if you injure the body it’ll simply regenerate & grow a new one. This whole bullshit on killing a Jink would kill the Biiju is BS because it’s never actually been tested!!!
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No.

Rinnegan >>> Rinnegan >>> Rinnegan

Byakugan > Sharingan (maybe as its not a confirmed fact yet)

But Byakugan and Sharingan is not from Rinnegan given there is no evidence or any link.

People are just making it up that Rinnegan > byakugan > sharingan which is not true again because there is no evidence.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/462/13/

So even though the Uchiha are decendents of the son with the Rinnegan the fact that they also have an eye technique is just a coincidence? The manga seems to indicate that the Byakugan comes from the Uchiha line but it doesn't tell us how it developed respective to the Sharingan. I don't doubt that some dojutsu may have developed from Senju's line but it seems far more likely that most of them come from Uchiha's line. *lol* Maybe the Hyuuga are an Uchiha branch family. Oh the irony of that...
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decent chapter.... raikage is just owning everybody.... shi was incapacitated, looks like it took its toll on sasuke just for the genjutsu...... naruto and co got a lil history lesson, how much is true is unsure. nice how sasuke has his little chidori in his hand and big ass raikage is a human chidori. pretty clever to use the electrical current to run through his nerves at a controlled voltage to allow him to increase his reaction time. the body is capable of incredible feats, but the mind sometimes holds it back. this is like a limiter release
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so basically if raikage touches anything other than sasuke's arm and he'll get shocked since the only part of chidori that's protecting sasuke is his arm
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So even though the Uchiha are decendents of the son with the Rinnegan the fact that they also have an eye technique is just a coincidence? The manga seems to indicate that the Byakugan comes from the Uchiha line but it doesn't tell us how it developed respective to the Sharingan. I don't doubt that some dojutsu may have developed from Senju's line but it seems far more likely that most of them come from Uchiha's line. *lol* Maybe the Hyuuga are an Uchiha branch family. Oh the irony of that...
First of all there is no son. These two boys are not his son.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/462/12/

Also the Rinnegan was by what ever tech given to the Elder son. So that means the gene for the eye is not within the elder son.

So his decendant will not have the Rinnegan same as saying Kakashi's children will not have the Sharingan due to not having the gene.

So try harder but Rinnegan > Sharingan is not a fact as is neither Byakugan.

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