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wunder4598 · 09-14-2009, 10:23 AM

I have not read every page of this forum so I am not sure if this has been said or not. I do not think Sasuke is able to control Amaterasu. I think he was not able to pass Amaterasu through the bones of Susanoo. Since most people on the battlefield could not see a ghost then they would think that he is controlling Amaterasu.

Everybody talks trash about Sasuke learning moves out of no where. He did not learn any of these moves out of no where. He was given Amaterasu and Sasunoo from Itiachi. We all saw that happen. I am not sure if he is able to control Amaterasu or Susanoo. I am still not convinced that he is able to either of those at will. Unless the thing he wanted to try out was, combining Amaterasu and Sasunoo as a defense. For all we know Itachi could have done something crazy like attaching part of him into Sasuke. Kind of like what Minato did with Naruto. There are to many holes still to come to any concrete conclusions about this. I apologize if none of this makes sense. I just type as my thoughts go. I will be more than happy to explain to anyone who does not understand what I am saying.

The Special One · 09-14-2009, 11:28 AM

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I do not think Sasuke is able to control Amaterasu. I think he was not able to pass Amaterasu through the bones of Susanoo. Since most people on the battlefield could not see a ghost then they would think that he is controlling Amaterasu.

I think he does. After his fight with Killer Bee, Sasuke has shown the ability to be able to control it. He even said that if Zetsu pulled something, he would hit him with Amaterasu. Sasuke wrapped Amaterasu around the bones of Sasunoo, that much is fact. Not saying he can wrap Amaterasu around himself normally, but the presence of Sasunoo caused the Amaterasu to appear that a way. If Sasuke didn't wrap Amaterasu around himself The Raikage would have a field day.

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I am not sure if he is able to control Amaterasu or Susanoo. I am still not convinced that he is able to either of those at will. Unless the thing he wanted to try out was, combining Amaterasu and Sasunoo as a defense. For all we know Itachi could have done something crazy like attaching part of him into Sasuke. Kind of like what Minato did with Naruto. There are to many holes still to come to any concrete conclusions about this. I apologize if none of this makes sense. I just type as my thoughts go. I will be more than happy to explain to anyone who does not understand what I am saying.

I'm not sure about the Sasunoo. Though, with the Amaterasu, it awakened in a time of emotional stress, as when Killer Bee almost killed him and his Falcon team. Though now, he has shown the ability to control it, as he used it twice in the battle with Raikage, once as an attack, the second as a form of denfense. Sasunoo probably awakened in the same sense as Amaterasu has however, it is probably likely that Sasuke can control Sasunoo to some degree (though that part is conjecture). True, Itachi gave him those techniques, but he can control Amaterasu and is probably getting the hang of Sasunoo.

wunder4598 · 09-14-2009, 12:20 PM

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I think he does. After his fight with Killer Bee, Sasuke has shown the ability to be able to control it. He even said that if Zetsu pulled something, he would hit him with Amaterasu. Sasuke wrapped Amaterasu around the bones of Sasunoo, that much is fact. Not saying he can wrap Amaterasu around himself normally, but the presence of Sasunoo caused the Amaterasu to appear that a way. If Sasuke didn't wrap Amaterasu around himself The Raikage would have a field day.

I can agree with that completely.

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I'm not sure about the Sasunoo. Though, with the Amaterasu, it awakened in a time of emotional stress, as when Killer Bee almost killed him and his Falcon team. Though now, he has shown the ability to control it, as he used it twice in the battle with Raikage, once as an attack, the second as a form of denfense. Sasunoo probably awakened in the same sense as Amaterasu has however, it is probably likely that Sasuke can control Sasunoo to some degree (though that part is conjecture). True, Itachi gave him those techniques, but he can control Amaterasu and is probably getting the hang of Sasunoo.

I can agree with this also.

I was reading up on Susanoo and it states that it is a diety that feeds off of the life force of the person the "summoned" it. I know it is different than the diety the 4th and the 3rd used. But could it somehow have transferred some of itachi's soul/life force like the 4th did when he sealed the kyubbi in Naruto? I am asking from the referance point on the Itachi vs Sasuke fight when Itachi used Susanoo to remove Orochimaru from Sasuke. That would explain why it does just happen at first when Sasuke's stress levels are high enough. Life or death type thing like when Naruto was training for the chunnin exams.

I also just had a thought about Madara's time/space jutsu. It reminds me of Kakashi's jutsu that he used on Diedra. That makes me think that Kakashi could be able to transport himself. I think he would have a hard time currently using it for that because of how much it takes out of him. That may have something to do with the EMS. I think it is plausible but I am not 100% on this theory.

Myth · 09-14-2009, 12:20 PM

So we gotta a confirmed spoiler the fight is stopped by garra his sand can defend against amaterasu meaning he's still bad ass and amaterasu can't burn through it...

Looks like sasuke's susanoo is incomplete as i thought and it seems because of the amaterasu it looks black and not white.......

platinumrug · 09-14-2009, 01:17 PM

I honestly can say I don't like Gaara interfering but hey it needs to be done I suppose.

Myth · 09-14-2009, 01:39 PM

Garra is bad ass finally we seen him in action and to think amaterasu fails even to his sand... it truly is the absolute defense... there' isn't anything that can get through it.. maybe its the jutsu he used against kimimaru the giant sand statue shield.

Docki · 09-14-2009, 01:40 PM

looks like gaara has new jutsu >>> naruto change mind no jutsu

i predict that 465 naruto will show up

and in 457 sasuke will collapse from gaara and narutos change mind no jutsu , when he ll wake up he will be normal sasuke and will see the light and obtain new jutsu --- that will be naruto change mind no jutsu :-D

Shrike · 09-14-2009, 01:45 PM

It's too early to assume anything, but given the spoilers so far, it seems that Susano-O is forming and is almost complete. Is Sasuke fighting them all now or what? First, Gaara helps him, then he fights Gaara.

I wonder if there will be Madara and Zetsu showing up, since Sasuke can't take all of them. Unless his Susano-O is equipped with Totsuka and Yata, then I don't know what can they do to kill him.

Anyway, I doubt anyone will die here honestly. Maybe Danzo, and that's it, but I doubt that will happen either.

The Special One · 09-14-2009, 02:14 PM

Man WTF? Now I got to eat my sock... I still don't understand what Sasuke means by the Mangekyou Sharingan appearing in both eyes, I mean we've never seen a one eye wielding Mangekyou user before. Unless he's refering to when he activated the Mangekyou Sharingan in general. Though, it would mean he could have activated Itachi's Sasunoo from the beginning but for some reason, just revealed it now, probably due to the emotionally stressed situation at hand.. I'll wait for better translations. And Gaara crying from one eye, that is freakin wierd. Those two points made be instantly discredit the spoiler. I guess I shouldn't be so judgmental.lol

I recon Sasuke is not going to be having an easy time, he struggled with one Kage, now he has to deal with two and their aides. And if Mizukage gets up, Sasuke most certainly will recieve help.

OMG.lol Deidara's sister! I wonder if she could do explosions too...

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 09-14-2009, 02:31 PM

Thats gay! Gaara just saved the riakages ass. if gaara hadnt interfered then raikage wouldve ran right into amaterasu and the leg drop wouldve been absorbed by sasanoo. Lol, Gay!!!

Im glad to see gaara in action, but let them finish theyre fight first.

It says in the DB that when the MS is awakened that tsukuyomi, amaterasu and sasanoo is what u get so enough with the itachis jutsu. Itachi might have transfered all his jutsu into sasuke, but when sasuke awakened MS he awakened the exact same jutsu. Theyre his now and hes using them in a whole new way so be happy about that at least.

Myth · 09-14-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash

Thats gay! Gaara just saved the riakages ass. if gaara hadnt interfered then raikage wouldve ran right into amaterasu and the leg drop wouldve been absorbed by sasanoo. Lol, Gay!!!

Im glad to see gaara in action, but let them finish theyre fight first.

It says in the DB that when the MS is awakened that tsukuyomi, amaterasu and sasanoo is what u get so enough with the itachis jutsu. Itachi might have transfered all his jutsu into sasuke, but when sasuke awakened MS he awakened the exact same jutsu. Theyre his now and hes using them in a whole new way so be happy about that at least.

nope those jutus are itachi's Kyf TILL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

Shrike Susanoo seems to be incomplete because all it formed was a skull he still needs time to fully use it im guessing..

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 09-14-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Myth

nope those jutus are itachi's Kyf TILL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

Shrike Susanoo seems to be incomplete because all it formed was a skull he still needs time to fully use it im guessing..

If u dont consider the DB Info as PROOF then ur crazier then a shit house rat, myth.

Myth · 09-14-2009, 02:54 PM

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Susano-O:
Amateratsu symbolizes the ''Light of the Material World'' while Tsukiyomi symbolizes ''the Darkness of the Spiritual World''. Those who master both can call upon the power of the raging god of battle (aragami) which is Susanoo. It's materialized chakra, taking the form of the great fighting god and it will destroy all the enemies in front of its eyes.

that's what the databook says i couldn't find anything else lol... Kyf itachi was speaking about himself when he said the line of susanoo awakening... I couldn't find anything about all uchiha who gain mks and master tsuku and ama gain susanoo.. amybe u can link me to it cause i just dnt remember it.

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 09-14-2009, 03:03 PM

""Amaterasu", representing "the material world and light" and "Tsukuyomi", symbolizing "the spiritual world and darkness", are two jutsu that can only be used by the ones who awakened the "Mangekyou Sharingan", the almighty eyes that can see through anything. The power of the violent god resides in the ones who are able control both jutsu: that is Susanoo. The chakra becomes tangible and takes the shape of the great, strong belligerent god. His fighting spirit doesn't abate until he has destroyed all the enemies before him.
Susanoo possesses a flawless offense and defense thanks to the "incorporeal tools" he holds in both of his hands. The "Sword of Totsuka" in his right hand cuts down any opponent, while the "Mirror of Yata" in his left hand rejects any attack. Material, incorporeal, ninjutsu, physical attacks: all these have no meaning in front of the god."

The Special One · 09-14-2009, 03:21 PM

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Thats gay! Gaara just saved the riakages ass. if gaara hadnt interfered then raikage wouldve ran right into amaterasu and the leg drop wouldve been absorbed by sasanoo. Lol, Gay!!!

I wouldn't go that far. It is one of those known-unknowns or whatever you want to call it. Raikage avoided Amaterasu before, who is to say he couldn't do it again? He could have body flickered out and then swopped back in place before Sasunoo completed and finished his attack with rapid speeds (since the bones of Sasunoo didn't cover the front at the time) however, my statement is conjecture at best because it didn't happen. We'll never know if Sasuke was even fast enough to cover up his front in time, the outcome we'll never see, because Gaara stepped in.

09-14-2009, 10:23 AM	#136
wunder4598 Academy Student Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Some where in Florida, I think. Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 464 Predictions/spoilers I have not read every page of this forum so I am not sure if this has been said or not. I do not think Sasuke is able to control Amaterasu. I think he was not able to pass Amaterasu through the bones of Susanoo. Since most people on the battlefield could not see a ghost then they would think that he is controlling Amaterasu. Everybody talks trash about Sasuke learning moves out of no where. He did not learn any of these moves out of no where. He was given Amaterasu and Sasunoo from Itiachi. We all saw that happen. I am not sure if he is able to control Amaterasu or Susanoo. I am still not convinced that he is able to either of those at will. Unless the thing he wanted to try out was, combining Amaterasu and Sasunoo as a defense. For all we know Itachi could have done something crazy like attaching part of him into Sasuke. Kind of like what Minato did with Naruto. There are to many holes still to come to any concrete conclusions about this. I apologize if none of this makes sense. I just type as my thoughts go. I will be more than happy to explain to anyone who does not understand what I am saying.

09-14-2009, 12:20 PM	#139
Myth Kage Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,108 Thanks: 379 Thanked 2,624 Times in 1,636 Posts	Re: 464 Predictions/spoilers んじゃやっぱりギロチンドロップから Nja- As I thought, it's starts from the Guillotine Drop サスケも抵抗しようと天照を自分の前に移動させる Sasuke moves the Amaterasu in front of him to oppose the attack その時　砂が雷影の攻撃を防ぎ吹き飛ばす That's when sand rushes in to defend, and blow off the Raikage's attack 雷影　風影貴様場合によっては容赦はせんぞ！！ Raikage: "Kazekage, you'd better have a good reason for me to forgive this!" ガアラ　あんたにこれ以上怪我をされても困るからな Gaara: "Well, you'd be in some deep shit if you got yourself hurt anymore than you are now" 　雷影自分の腕を切り落とし　シーに治療させる Raikage cuts off his own arm; C cures him サスケとガアラとの会話 Sasuke and Gaara have a conversation 今もお前は昔と同じ目をしている～まだ遅くはないこっちに戻って来い～ "Now you have the same eyes as I once did in the past"~It's still not too late, come back with us"~ 戻ったとしても俺に何がある～？俺は気づけたがお前にも小さい光がみえるだろ～ "Even if I returned back, what would I have~?" "I've grown aware of it, but you should be able to see that small light as well" 俺はもうそんな光を見る眼は閉じたあるのは闇のみだ～ "My eyes have already been closed to the light; what's left is only darkness" テマリ　もうよせ～そいつは時期に国際手配になるそうしたらもう戻れる場所なんてないんだ～私情をはさむな！お前は風影だろう！！ Temari: "Stop it already~That guy is to be internationally wanted, and once that happens, there won't be any place for him left to go to~ Don't let your personal feelings interfere! You are the Kazekage!" ガアラの左眼から涙が流れる　　分かっている！！　とヒョウタンからすべての砂を出す Tears fall from Gaara's left eye "I understand!" He releases all his sand from his gourd 混乱に乗じついにカリンが火影の場所を突き止める Taking advantage of the chaos, Karin locates the Hokage's location 場面は会議室へ Scene change to meeting room 居場所がばれたのでダンゾウは混乱になったら外に出るぞ　とﾋｿﾋｿ　青が大人しくしていろと一括 Since the meeting room was exposed, Danzou whispers: "Let's get out of here if it turns into mayhem"; To sum up what Ao says is something like: "You'll be quiet" 場面は戻り　デイダラ妹　すごい！！ Scene returns to Deidara's sister [trans note: nja's comment]: "Awesome!" すべての天照を砂でガードするガアラ　サスケ「さすが絶対防御だな俺の炎遁をここまで防ぐとはな」 Gaara guards against all of the Amaterasu with his sand. Sasuke: "Your absolute defense lives up to itself. Who would've thought you could defend against my Katon* [trans note: nja used the wrong "fire" kanji here*] to this extent..." ダルイが　加勢します私が最初に術を放つので一斉に皆さんも　風３人　おｋ！！ Darui: "We'll assist. Since I've been firing off jutsu since the beginning, now all of us and the three Sand shinobi can as well!" 攻撃があたる瞬間にサスケのスサノオがついに現れる　（真っ黒なスサノオ） The moment their attacks hit, Sasuke's Susano'o finally appears (a pitch black Susano'o) カリン　以前のサスケじゃもうない　冷たすぎる＞＜ Karin: "Sasuke from before is now completely gone. So cold" >.< サスケ　ガアラこれが俺の絶対防御だ！！　　　　両眼の万華鏡を開眼したときに得られる　第三のチート能力　スサノオだ！！ Sasuke: "Gaara, this is my absolute defense! When I activated the Mangekyou in both of my eyes, I was able to attain the third cheat ability, Susano'o!" で完です The end サスケのスサノオは　まだイタチの様に完全じゃないっぽい Sasuke's Susano'o still isn't complete as Itachi's was ただの骨人形　　頭蓋骨もあり骨が黒色です Another bone figure. There's a skull and the bones are black in color まとってるオーラうす灰色っぽいオーラをまとってましたね Around it is a pale grey type of aura that adorns [Susano'o] （オーラの色は正直微妙ですが暗い色です） (To be honest, the color of the aura is pretty hard to explain but it's dark in color) ちなみに　最初に天照を食らった侍は　カンクロウに宙に浮かされ By the way, around the beginning Kankurou floats the Samurai who ate the Amaterasu テマリのかまいたちで身包み剥がされてボロボロになりますが and has Temari strip him using Kamaitachi 生きていますｗ He gets messed up but he lives lol サスケは両目見開いて余裕でしゃべれてたから元気っぽいですねただジュウゴは　試したかったのはこれの事か･･･　と呪い状態から人になっていて危ない状態でしたね雷影は　　シーまだか！？　シー　　　もうすぐです　雷影　　　腕が回復しだいサスケに攻撃するぞ！！ってバリバリ元気でしたｗ血が止まり次第って事じゃないですかね腕は切り落とした後も燃えてましたから･･･サスケはまあかっこよくかかれてたと思います黒ツチは残念ながらひとｺﾏ一言ですｗテマリはシー・ダルイよりか出てたかなサスケは見開いてるときは血は出てなかったような･･･流した血の後位だったと思います So we gotta a confirmed spoiler the fight is stopped by garra his sand can defend against amaterasu meaning he's still bad ass and amaterasu can't burn through it... Looks like sasuke's susanoo is incomplete as i thought and it seems because of the amaterasu it looks black and not white.......

09-14-2009, 01:17 PM	#140
platinumrug ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: OH Age: 23 Posts: 3,597 Thanks: 11,322 Thanked 2,991 Times in 1,380 Posts	Re: 464 Predictions/spoilers I honestly can say I don't like Gaara interfering but hey it needs to be done I suppose. __________________ Check me out on YouTube

09-14-2009, 01:39 PM	#141
Myth Kage Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,108 Thanks: 379 Thanked 2,624 Times in 1,636 Posts	Re: 464 Predictions/spoilers Garra is bad ass finally we seen him in action and to think amaterasu fails even to his sand... it truly is the absolute defense... there' isn't anything that can get through it.. maybe its the jutsu he used against kimimaru the giant sand statue shield.

09-14-2009, 01:40 PM	#142
Docki Academy Student Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 3 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 464 Predictions/spoilers looks like gaara has new jutsu >>> naruto change mind no jutsu i predict that 465 naruto will show up and in 457 sasuke will collapse from gaara and narutos change mind no jutsu , when he ll wake up he will be normal sasuke and will see the light and obtain new jutsu --- that will be naruto change mind no jutsu :-D

09-14-2009, 01:45 PM	#143
Shrike █▄ █▄█ █▄ ▀█▄ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Silent Hill Posts: 5,157 Thanks: 7,863 Thanked 9,852 Times in 2,941 Posts	Re: 464 Predictions/spoilers It's too early to assume anything, but given the spoilers so far, it seems that Susano-O is forming and is almost complete. Is Sasuke fighting them all now or what? First, Gaara helps him, then he fights Gaara. I wonder if there will be Madara and Zetsu showing up, since Sasuke can't take all of them. Unless his Susano-O is equipped with Totsuka and Yata, then I don't know what can they do to kill him. Anyway, I doubt anyone will die here honestly. Maybe Danzo, and that's it, but I doubt that will happen either.

09-14-2009, 02:14 PM	#144
The Special One Kage Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oakpark, Michigan Age: 22 Posts: 5,054 Thanks: 884 Thanked 4,449 Times in 1,550 Posts	Re: 464 Predictions/spoilers Man WTF? Now I got to eat my sock... I still don't understand what Sasuke means by the Mangekyou Sharingan appearing in both eyes, I mean we've never seen a one eye wielding Mangekyou user before. Unless he's refering to when he activated the Mangekyou Sharingan in general. Though, it would mean he could have activated Itachi's Sasunoo from the beginning but for some reason, just revealed it now, probably due to the emotionally stressed situation at hand.. I'll wait for better translations. And Gaara crying from one eye, that is freakin wierd. Those two points made be instantly discredit the spoiler. I guess I shouldn't be so judgmental.lol I recon Sasuke is not going to be having an easy time, he struggled with one Kage, now he has to deal with two and their aides. And if Mizukage gets up, Sasuke most certainly will recieve help. OMG.lol Deidara's sister! I wonder if she could do explosions too... __________________ The Specialist, forever http://forums.narutocentral.com/showthread.php?t=24201 ^My first thread.lol Last edited by The Special One; 09-14-2009 at 02:19 PM.

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