how did raikage avoid amateraus exactly? - Page 2

The Special One · 09-12-2009, 07:06 PM

Yep, basically what everybody else said. The Amaterasu instantly burns anything that is caught and tracked within the sharingan's range. Since there has been no one (of recent against Itachi or Sasuke's sharingan) to be able to have the speed to exceed the capturing capabilities of the sharingan, the Amaterasu has had much success torching its victims.

However, Raikage's body flicker moves at speeds that exceeds the sharingan's tracking range, and since the sharingan can't track Raikage's movements, the Amaterasu can't burn him because the sharigan lost its target, which causes the Amaterasu to miss.

Scientia · 09-12-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xxMESTxx

yea but this is a manga about ninja not samurai..

That's why I said I doubt it, lol.

Myth · 09-12-2009, 07:13 PM

The amaterasu wasn't stated to be unavoidable EVER not in the DB or manga sasuke rants always just because he can't do something he thinks it can't be done ROFL..

The raikage dodged it with pure speed that's all... it can also be avoided using a kage bushinn....

The Special One · 09-12-2009, 07:23 PM

^Though, in Naruto's case, he'd probably need mass shadow clones to absorb the brunt of the blast because he's not that fast, but a sheild of Mass Shadow clones would suffice definitely as they were strong enough to brace Shinra Tensei. Amaterasu is unavoidable to the inexperienced, these past chapters showed us that the Mangekyou Sharingan isn't as bad or devastating as we once thought. Sasuke will have to use his head if he wants to win, spewing black flames everywhere will seem desperate and will probably just waste a shit load of chakra.

kluang · 09-12-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by freedom07

oh one answer that i could come up with is that rai got info on how amaterasu works..that sasukes eye bleeds before it happens

so as soon as sasuke bled from the eyes rai starts to move very fast

Rai starts move fast when Sasuke eyes turns MS

Uchiha09 · 09-12-2009, 07:51 PM

this chapter was really awesome showing someone like raikage dodging amaterasu.

Shrike · 09-12-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

.... Amaterasu was never unavoidable to begin with. Concepts like that are made to be broken sooner or later. The fact that Sasuke was able to run from Amaterasu to begin with proves that the dojutsu isn't instant & with enough speed could actually be dodged. That's all there is to it Raikage dodged Amaterasu with pure speed.

Sasuke didn't run from Amaterasu, it caught his wing, and Itachi wouldn't burn his brother. He obviously knew that Sasuke was doing Oral Rebirth.

Otherwise, I agree.

MGS3-SS · 09-12-2009, 08:38 PM

How did Raikage avoid Amateraus exactly?

Dodging it.

Vengeance · 09-12-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shrike

Sasuke didn't run from Amaterasu, it caught his wing, and Itachi wouldn't burn his brother. He obviously knew that Sasuke was doing Oral Rebirth.

Otherwise, I agree.

390-04 Sasuke running from Amaterasu. Think what you want the manga shows otherwise.

Uchiha09 · 09-12-2009, 08:40 PM

oh... so it doesn't chase the PERSON. the person who activated it just controls where it goes even after it leaves their eyes

Shrike · 09-12-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

390-04 Sasuke running from Amaterasu. Think what you want the manga shows otherwise.

Veng...sometimes you just...make me wonder.

Running. Not running away. The next panel he is hit. You know, as in burned? That is not running away. It still hit him.

woody_3162 · 09-12-2009, 09:24 PM

what myth said above...

but if that doesn't sink your boat then think of it this way...

when any series continues on long enough things change and that goes with techniques and moves.
they may be 'bigged up' and blown out of proportion and made to seem perfect and unbeatable earlier on but inevitably the longer the series goes then the more the likely it is that they will be brought down a peg or two.
its happened in naruto before its happened plenty in bleach and more or less everywhere else...

Silverblade · 09-12-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by freedom07

id like to hear your views..but here me out first, please constructive arguments only

when amaterasu was introduced it was supposed to be unavoidable
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/390/17/

sasuke didnt avoid it he got hit but he replaced himself,

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/390/03/

"the flames will burn whatever the eye focuses on, it converges at EXACTLY that point"

True.

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so amaterasu is fire outwards it appears at whatever the eye is looking at..

so how did raikgae avoid it...u can say he avoided it with pure speed the sharingan cannot follow..BUT

1. why did amateraus continue on to hit the samurai behind raikage, if the flames appear exactly at that point why did it keep moving backwards?

Hey Mangekyou Sharingan gives him flashbacks (since he know what it is.). Of course he's going to increase his speed, reflexes, power, etc.. to avoid the eye at all cost. BUT If some weirdo looks at you with strange eyes, wouldn't you be freaked out and move the hell out of his sight?

Raikage began to move right away so the flames got the Samurai behind him.

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2. raikage would need to be constantly moving at the speed to avoid any amaterasu that could be coming his way...so he must have predicted amaterasu was coming if not the flames woulda appeared and it would have been too late

let me explain it again, the flames burn exactly at the point of the eye which conscnetrates on, if raikage keeps going at that speed then the eye cannot concentrate but how did rai know sasuke was going to use it, because u cannot start moving at the speed AFTER amaterasu is activated its already too late..the flames woulda already appeared and burnd and as rai moves the flames would still be on the body since the body was the point which the eyes focused on when the body was at stand still.

Experience and Information from other countries.

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so basically im using actual texts from the manga and im questioning how rai doged it? does rai have to constantly move at that speed just in case sasuke tries it again?

Why you repeat the question thrice? -_-

We get the point. Raikage has experience facing Uchihas in battle. (He's not even freaked out by those eyes like Orochimaru, Kakashi and Deidara was.) There were a flock of them back in his days when he was Naruto's age.

Ways to avoid Amasteru: Doton jutsu, Clone, Replacement and speed.

uchihawiz · 09-13-2009, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by freedom07

id like to hear your views..but here me out first, please constructive arguments only

when amaterasu was introduced it was supposed to be unavoidable
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/390/17/

sasuke didnt avoid it he got hit but he replaced himself,

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/390/03/

"the flames will burn whatever the eye focuses on, it converges at EXACTLY that point"

so amaterasu is fire outwards it appears at whatever the eye is looking at..

so how did raikgae avoid it...u can say he avoided it with pure speed the sharingan cannot follow..BUT

1. why did amateraus continue on to hit the samurai behind raikage, if the flames appear exactly at that point why did it keep moving backwards?

2. raikage would need to be constantly moving at the speed to avoid any amaterasu that could be coming his way...so he must have predicted amaterasu was coming if not the flames woulda appeared and it would have been too late

let me explain it again, the flames burn exactly at the point of the eye which conscnetrates on, if raikage keeps going at that speed then the eye cannot concentrate but how did rai know sasuke was going to use it, because u cannot start moving at the speed AFTER amaterasu is activated its already too late..the flames woulda already appeared and burnd and as rai moves the flames would still be on the body since the body was the point which the eyes focused on when the body was at stand still.

so basically im using actual texts from the manga and im questioning how rai doged it? does rai have to constantly move at that speed just in case sasuke tries it again?

I feel the same way but wat gets me is that they new that thows were all itachi's moves and how skilled he was at them so wat I want to no is had the raikage fought itachi b4, because how would they no the moves and if sasuke was better then itachi either. So I to have some ? About how he did that also

stubborn_d0nkey · 09-13-2009, 04:49 AM

shunshin no jutsu!, the chapter says it! probably combined with his element and his chakra

09-12-2009, 07:06 PM	#16
The Special One Kage Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oakpark, Michigan Age: 22 Posts: 5,056 Thanks: 888 Thanked 4,450 Times in 1,551 Posts	Re: how did raikage avoid amateraus exactly? Yep, basically what everybody else said. The Amaterasu instantly burns anything that is caught and tracked within the sharingan's range. Since there has been no one (of recent against Itachi or Sasuke's sharingan) to be able to have the speed to exceed the capturing capabilities of the sharingan, the Amaterasu has had much success torching its victims. However, Raikage's body flicker moves at speeds that exceeds the sharingan's tracking range, and since the sharingan can't track Raikage's movements, the Amaterasu can't burn him because the sharigan lost its target, which causes the Amaterasu to miss. __________________ The Specialist, forever http://forums.narutocentral.com/showthread.php?t=24201 ^My first thread.lol

09-12-2009, 07:13 PM	#18
Myth Kage Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,112 Thanks: 379 Thanked 2,624 Times in 1,636 Posts	Re: how did raikage avoid amateraus exactly? The amaterasu wasn't stated to be unavoidable EVER not in the DB or manga sasuke rants always just because he can't do something he thinks it can't be done ROFL.. The raikage dodged it with pure speed that's all... it can also be avoided using a kage bushinn....

09-12-2009, 07:23 PM	#19
The Special One Kage Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oakpark, Michigan Age: 22 Posts: 5,056 Thanks: 888 Thanked 4,450 Times in 1,551 Posts	Re: how did raikage avoid amateraus exactly? ^Though, in Naruto's case, he'd probably need mass shadow clones to absorb the brunt of the blast because he's not that fast, but a sheild of Mass Shadow clones would suffice definitely as they were strong enough to brace Shinra Tensei. Amaterasu is unavoidable to the inexperienced, these past chapters showed us that the Mangekyou Sharingan isn't as bad or devastating as we once thought. Sasuke will have to use his head if he wants to win, spewing black flames everywhere will seem desperate and will probably just waste a shit load of chakra. __________________ The Specialist, forever http://forums.narutocentral.com/showthread.php?t=24201 ^My first thread.lol

09-12-2009, 07:51 PM	#21
Uchiha09 Hunter-Nin Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in imagination land, where fart when you burp and when you burp when you fart Age: 19 Posts: 1,166 Thanks: 379 Thanked 243 Times in 226 Posts	Re: how did raikage avoid amateraus exactly? this chapter was really awesome showing someone like raikage dodging amaterasu.

09-12-2009, 08:38 PM	#23
MGS3-SS Your momma Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 204 Thanks: 16 Thanked 85 Times in 47 Posts	Re: how did raikage avoid amateraus exactly? How did Raikage avoid Amateraus exactly? Dodging it.

09-12-2009, 08:40 PM	#25
Uchiha09 Hunter-Nin Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in imagination land, where fart when you burp and when you burp when you fart Age: 19 Posts: 1,166 Thanks: 379 Thanked 243 Times in 226 Posts	Re: how did raikage avoid amateraus exactly? oh... so it doesn't chase the PERSON. the person who activated it just controls where it goes even after it leaves their eyes

09-12-2009, 09:24 PM	#27
woody_3162 Chuunin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: united kingdom Posts: 452 Thanks: 440 Thanked 417 Times in 138 Posts	Re: how did raikage avoid amateraus exactly? what myth said above... but if that doesn't sink your boat then think of it this way... when any series continues on long enough things change and that goes with techniques and moves. they may be 'bigged up' and blown out of proportion and made to seem perfect and unbeatable earlier on but inevitably the longer the series goes then the more the likely it is that they will be brought down a peg or two. its happened in naruto before its happened plenty in bleach and more or less everywhere else...

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