moebrown20

They switched eyes. This is why I think Tobi is really Izuna only posing to be his brother.

http://www.narutocentral.com/manga.p...uto&c=386&p=14

"You and I are each other spares." I think he was telling them that they would switch eyes one day.

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uchihademon91

i guess it could be possible for tobi to be izuna.... trying to get revenge on konoha for what happened to his brother against the first.

tobi told itachi and sasuke that izuna died... his story doesnt add up. why could they not just switch eyes?? why send a blind guy into battle?? if tobi is izuna he could be using madara's name to strike confusion and maybe a lil fear, and carry on his brothers name. of course he'd say izuna died if he was trying to make it seem like he was madara. that way any suspicion of tobi being izuna would be gone.

it has valid points

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SenjuGod

Itachi said the eyes of Madara are still in full power but the reason he got defeated by 1st Hockage is because he did not have the younger son of the sage of six path's other half. So he wants the senju powers to become the complete fighter. But what has Sasuke to do with it? Are they gonna fuse?

SenjuGod

Sasuke is already a wanted criminal becuase he attacked the Kage summit just as gaara said there is no hope for him. So i think very stringly that Sasuke is going to be the Madara. Madara sent sasuke kage summit for a reason. why? once he gets branded as a crminal he will relly on akatsuki for protection and Madara. Even if naruto persuades him, the other villages and even Konoha are not going to take it and they will be a all out war on Naruto and sasuke sympathysers lol. So it will be by conquest sweet!!!!!

moebrown20

Yep. We are talking about a guy equal in power.
I think they switched eyes & he faked his death.
After his brother was killed, he used his name(because Izuna was the good brother) to avenged his kin.

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uchihademon91

i dont remember anything about itachi mentioning anything about the sage of six paths

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SenjuGod

i was not talking about itachi, i was talking of madara wanting the other half of the younger son of the sage of six paths- SENJU BODY

Ironclad

Narutoworld is filled with pedophiles and people obsessed with each other's bodies.

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All of that sounds reasonable to me. If he didn't know how to just transfer amaterasu, then that fine. However if he did and gave sasuke all 3 techs anyway, then you got to ask some serious questions. Why if he couldn't use them? Did he foresee sasuke awakening his own MS? And why would he want him to if it meant eventual blindness. After all the years Itachi spent preparing sasuke for the final fight, it seem unlikely that he would just give him his techs on a whim. Does anyone at least agree that there's still more to this whole situation that we don't know.


Ok, before I respond to this let me give you a theory about the SG. What actually causes the SG to activate? Sure the uchihas are born with the ability, but it still needs a trigger to activate. I believe it to be a 2 part process. First there has to be a neurological (emotional) response. Then the body must physically respond using a stimuli (natural steroids, enzymes,etc...) An example of this is when fear causes the body to emit adrenaline for a temporary increase in strength. It could be possible that all uchiha's have a special gland behind the eyes that normally remains inactive unless triggered by certain emotional states. They can then learn to use chakra to stimulate the part of the brain that causes the reaction. This makes since because we all have an organ that doesn't do anything either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermiform_appendix Also the MS could be triggered by an emotional response as well. Wouldn't killing your best friend cause you to be depressed. Severe depression is scientifically proven to cause weakened immune systems, suicidal thoughts, and heart failure. So why not blindness? When Itachi fought sasuke he planned on dying from the start. I consider that suicidal. Also he was sick. Maybe from a weakened immune system. Lets face it has itachi ever laughed? No. Sounds like severe emo depression to me. Yeah, I know I'm kinda talking out my ass here but it could be possible.

Edit: Tobi/Madara seems like he got Bi-polar depression. One minute he laughing and having fun, the next he's talking about conquering the world. I just figured out his true goals. The uchiha inherited the emo mind from the Emo sage. Madara wants the emo body to so he can be a "complete" emo like pain. LMAO!!!!!

Now then, about the EMS. Madara had to take his brothers eye because he was blind. If izuna had taken madara's eyes what good would it do. Would anyone say "I'm going to switch my eyes with a blind guy." I wouldn't. Once you damage your eyes you can't undo it. That's why izuna didn't takes his. That's why itachi said sasuke was his spare. If sasuke took itachi's eye, yeah they'd be EMS but he'd mostly blind. If you need a new eye then you have to take your brothers. But if your only talking about getting EMS there could be another way. Madara and Izuna were the first to get MS so they didn't know about the blindness or EMS. Otherwise they would have switched immediately. Itachi was different. He knew everything about MS and EMS. Yeah itachi gave sasuke his techs, but thats the easy part. He could use genjutsu to manipulate the part of the brain that stores memories and planted the knowledge of the techs in there. Also he could rewire the brain to make Amaterasu a reflex to seeing madara's face. Just like when the doctor hits your knee with the hammer and you kick the crap out of him. LOLOL I do it on purpose though. The hard part is implanting the physical transformation of the eyes. Look at the link below.
http://www.narutocentral.com/manga.p...ruto&c=397&p=1

From this we see that it's a fact that sasuke had to have a MS activated to use Amaterasu. It is also a fact that the eye pattern belongs to itachi. Just putting the techs in his mind wouldn't work. He had to physically alter the body so the MS would activate. Altering sasukes body to make a clone of his MS is the same as actually giving him his own. Actually it's better, because sasuke isn't blind (yet). Later after the talk with madara sasuke's eyes transformed again. I believe when his MS activated it instantly combined with Itachi's causing EMS. Also madara uses people like pawns. He could have knew itachi would give sasuke a MS.

SenjuGod

[QUOTE=ask me anything;1755695]All of that sounds reasonable to me. If he didn't know how to just transfer amaterasu, then that fine. However if he did and gave sasuke all 3 techs anyway, then you got to ask some serious questions. Why if he couldn't use them? Did he foresee sasuke awakening his own MS? And why would he want him to if it meant eventual blindness. After all the years Itachi spent preparing sasuke for the final fight, it seem unlikely that he would just give him his techs on a whim. Does anyone at least agree that there's still more to this whole situation that we don't know.




Ok, before I respond to this let me give you a theory about the SG. What actually causes the SG to activate? Sure the uchihas are born with the ability, but it still needs a trigger to activate. I believe it to be a 2 part process. First there has to be a neurological (emotional) response. Then the body must physically respond using a stimuli (natural steroids, enzymes,etc...) An example of this is when fear causes the body to emit adrenaline for a temporary increase in strength. It could be possible that all uchiha's have a special gland behind the eyes that normally remains inactive unless triggered by certain emotional states. They can then learn to use chakra to stimulate the part of the brain that causes the reaction. This makes since because we all have an organ that doesn't do anything either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermiform_appendix Also the MS could be triggered by an emotional response as well. Wouldn't killing your best friend cause you to be depressed. Severe depression is scientifically proven to cause weakened immune systems, suicidal thoughts, and heart failure. So why not blindness? When Itachi fought sasuke he planned on dying from the start. I consider that suicidal. Also he was sick. Maybe from a weakened immune system. Lets face it has itachi ever laughed? No. Sounds like severe emo depression to me. Yeah, I know I'm kinda talking out my ass here but it could be possible.

Edit: Tobi/Madara seems like he got Bi-polar depression. One minute he laughing and having fun, the next he's talking about conquering the world. I just figured out his true goals. The uchiha inherited the emo mind from the Emo sage. Madara wants the emo body to so he can be a "complete" emo like pain. LMAO!!!!!

Now then, about the EMS. Madara had to take his brothers eye because he was blind. If izuna had taken madara's eyes what good would it do. Would anyone say "I'm going to switch my eyes with a blind guy." I wouldn't. Once you damage your eyes you can't undo it. That's why izuna didn't takes his. That's why itachi said sasuke was his spare. If sasuke took itachi's eye, yeah they'd be EMS but he'd mostly blind. If you need a new eye then you have to take your brothers. But if your only talking about getting EMS there could be another way. Madara and Izuna were the first to get MS so they didn't know about the blindness or EMS. Otherwise they would have switched immediately. Itachi was different. He knew everything about MS and EMS. Yeah itachi gave sasuke his techs, but thats the easy part. He could use genjutsu to manipulate the part of the brain that stores memories and planted the knowledge of the techs in there. Also he could rewire the brain to make Amaterasu a reflex to seeing madara's face. Just like when the doctor hits your knee with the hammer and you kick the crap out of him. LOLOL I do it on purpose though. The hard part is implanting the physical transformation of the eyes. Look at the link below.
http://www.narutocentral.com/manga.p...ruto&c=397&p=1

from your discription of the Sharingan eyes it looks like you are creating your own pair of sharingan eyes in lab. When you are finished hola me i will be first to buy lol

SenjuGod

sasuke does not have EMS he si getting blind

ask me anything

I'm already selling them on E-bay. lol.

All I was really saying is that their has to be some sort of logic behind the SG, and other bloodline traits. We've seen plenty of ninja's who have scientific knowledge about the human body. Orochimaru and kabuto did all sort of human experiments. Mostly having to do with altering bodies. Plus there are lots of medical ninja. Orochimaru was able to alter yamato's body and implant the 1st hokage's wood jutsu abilities. So it's not hard to believe Itachi could find a way to alter sasuke's body to implant his MS ability.

When I read a manga that has a deep plot to it, I try to look at it from a neutral position. Sometimes you can't take a characters statements at face value. It's like being a principal in a school. 2 kids get sent to the office for fighting, and you ask who started it. There both going to say it's the other one, and have different stories about what happened. Usually the stories are similar but have details added on to make them look like the victims. You got to look past the hype and find the truth.

Itachi wanted to protect sasuke and his village. But had to make other think of him as a villain to do so. Madara wanted sasuke to think of Itachi as a unwilling participant in konoha's schemes, when he chose to side with them over his clan. Each have their story but that doesn't mean either are right.

I come to realize that of out of all the predictions that are made on this forum very few ever come true, but that doesn't matter. It's all about the discussing thoughts and ideas. I think Sasuke has EMS, but maybe not.

If sasuke does have EMS, just remember you heard it hear first.

RAJIN

Sasuke only used ye itachi's tech

the most probable reason we haven't yet seen sasuke tech

is kishimoto itself

he wanna create hype of it

also maybe he is researching of power which can be given to sasuke

also itachi was a sopund planner as well as a good tactician

we can't imagine how many type of code he has implanted in naruto and sasuke

so surely kishi leave a hole for himself to pour more power and power into his main characters

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Konnaha_yellow_flash

check this out. Here u can see a pattern that isnt vains, but what I believe could be kishis preview of sasukes EMS eye shape because theres six of them and they curve like itachis did so check it out last panel on the bottomhttp://www.narutocentral.com/manga.p...ruto&c=462&p=4

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