Future powers for naruto? What do you Think? - Page 2

Uchiha09 · 09-19-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumare

I First - Demon Sage mode: combination of the sage mode and kyuubi mode like when he faced Nagato.

you don't need to say the techs you want him to have if he's already used it in the manga which means he has it

i'd like to see him control his FRS longrange instead of just making it go in a straight line and move it like itachi did when he used ama on sasuke and naruto controls FRS with NE which is already all around him

ask me anything · 09-20-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Special One

Well I know how the specifics of the jutsu works, but it is hard to put it into an actual way for Naruto to do it. The rites are like receptors that signals Minato's chakra. Once the rites move (as they are attatched to Kunai), Minato is alerted and he is summoned to the location. So, it involves some kind of reverse summoning method.

If what your saying is true, wouldn't it mean Minato could teleport to the kunai knives at any time? If the rites are like sensors, then he can tell how fast the knives are moving. Otherwise he wouldn't know the difference between the ninjas normal movement speed and the kunai's being thrown.
That doesn't mean he can't teleport to one that's not moving if he wanted.

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Originally Posted by The Special One

For what purposes? Kakashi said that Madara's space-time transfer surpassed Minato's as he is able to move through solid walls without markings or tatoos (which could qualify as rites). Zetsu seems to just use the environment some how. I kind of doubt rites are used in his case. Though I could be misunderstanding what you mean in regards to them using rites, but at least during the space-time transfer, Madara uses none.

It seems to me every akatsuki pair have abilities that compliment each other. I mean Tobi/Madara planted land mines for Diedara. Kakuzu sowed Hidans body parts back together. Konan protected Pains real body. So what does Zetsu do for Madara? I think its his ability to travel through solid matter. Here's my theory.

1) When Madara attacked the village with the fox, he and Minato got into a 1 on 1 fight. I'm sure Minato tried FTG on Madara, and Madara copied it with his SG.
http://www.narutocentral.com/manga.p...ruto&c=440&p=9

2) Zetsu moves to certain locations before a fight and plants rites inside of different objects like trees, rocks, the ground, etc,. When Madara feels threatened he uses FTG to teleport to one of these areas. kakashi doesn't know the rites are there, so he assumes it must be a different technique. Given Madaras obsession with planning every little detail in advance it seems like something he would do.

BTW, I'm not talking about Madara's ability to phase through stuff, just the teleporting aspect.
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I got an awesome new move for naruto. Since he can't fuse with the ma and pa toad, why not make a couple of Mini Me shadow clones. Gamakichi and Gamatatsu both use a technique that makes them smaller. Combine that with the shadow clone, and you have a couple of mini narutos.
They sit on naruto's shoulder and collect nature chakra. Since it's naruto's clones the fox can't reject them.

Uchiha09 · 09-20-2009, 02:48 AM

i think this covers the "rites" but he could've planted it far far away but still doesn't explain how he GETS BACK since getting back rites should be close enough for hinata to detect
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...4/page015.html

deidara and sasori, what did they have that complimented each other. if they both went for an all out fight together they would get in each other's way.

i don't even think minato and madara fought 1v1. i think it was madara in a distance controlling kyuubi full out to go against minato

stubborn_d0nkey · 09-20-2009, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jumare

I have three new possible abililities for naruto.

First - Demon Sage mode: combination of the sage mode and kyuubi mode like when he faced Nagato.

Second - Katon; Rasen- Meteor tech: Fire manipulation on the rs. fire because that is the only element that makes him equal with sasuke. any other element will give either of them an advantage.

Thrid - Completed FTG: ever wondered why this tech isn't offensive? maybe cuz it isn't complete. I mean Minato is fan of incomplete techs so maybe this is the tech the frog and jiraiya were talking about.

lol FTG isnt offensive? an tech that kills 50 enemies in practically no time isn't offensive? wow, thats VERY subjective

edit: if he learns suton then they would be more equal than now

Silverblade · 09-20-2009, 09:23 AM

Kaze bunshin - Wind clone ~ When it's hit they explode with slicing air.

Oodama Rasenshuriken - Yeah death bomb.

Fuuton: Tornado jutsu ~ Three or Four of Naruto bunshins create a tornado somehow using their body.

Fuuton: Air blast no jutsu ~ A gust of slicing winds is blown from Naruto's mouth.

Element: Katon ~ Due to the ninetails chakra. He has to learn this and for combo attacks with most of the frogs.

Naruto Katon jutsus won't suck. (I know Amasteru makes Katon look like shit, but come on we haven't seen a good katon jutsu from an Uchiha. Jiraiya had a good katon jutsu.)

Katon bunshin - The shinobi attacks it with taijutsu they catch on fire automatically.

Katon Rasengan - On impact the target is incinerated.

Katon Rasenbomb - Well it's a napalm bomb. When Naruto throws it KABOOM! Does a wide radius of fire damage.

Katon: Flamethrower tech - Can be used from his hands (YES FROM HIS HANDS!) A nice way to rip off the Kameha wave.

Suiton: Yeah. Whirlpool country. Name has to with water. We get the point.

Suiton: Mizu bunshin - Cheesy but hey i like Mizu bunshin.

Suiton Rasengan - When the target is hit. They are trapped in a water prison and then the jutsu takes off gaining tremendous amount of water pressure to crush the internal organs of a target.

Suiton: RasenUzumaki - Naruto's signature jutsu. It is known to cause a great flood when used. The target is hit with water that expands into a small river that has a whirlpool in the middle. The target is then sent grinding against the earth as water pressure increases to the point that every cell explodes instantly.

Suiton: Great Wall - A huge wall of water is used to defeat against huge jutsus or to take out multiple opponents.

Next is Doton: Kishi will piss us off by not seeing a doton Rasengan. Naruto will only have one doton jutsu

Doton: Rising land (B-Rank Jutsu) - It's only to elevate the land.

Naruto isn't human anyway so don't give me that bs about Sasuke, Kakashi or Yamato.

Last but not least

Kyuubi jutsu!!

Ultimate Kyuubi Rasengan - Made from the fox's chakra

Kyuubi bunshin - Takes the form of a normal shadow clone. When it's attacked a small fox with no tail attacks the target by smothering them in red chakra to burn them.

Ninetail Canon - Naruto forms an ultimate rasengan of his chakra in one hand and the ultimate Kyuubi rasengan in another hand. He smashes them together creating bubbles of red and blue chakra. He puts his hands into a Kameha wave pose and the chakras gather to form a obsidian orb. He fires it, giving off a tremendous force that destroy a village and the beam takes form of the Kyuubi's head.

Fuuin jutsu:

Emo seal no jutsu - He will seal Sasuke's hatred.
Elemental seal no jutsu - He can seal elements on the desired target
No noobs in my fight no jutsu - He can stop fodder like TenTen from jumping into battle.
Death god, Kyuubi re inforce

i have a million of these.

Mack2128 · 09-20-2009, 11:45 AM

I honestly think naruto and his clones along with his rasengan is as good as its gonna get as far as ninjutsu. I personally think he's going to get a hell of alot stronger at his own taijutsu and just greatly increasing his own speed like his father did. I also believe due to his natural wind nature, that he may even one day be able to literally "fly" as apposed to teleporting all over the space, just seems more suitable for a guy like naruto. As far as other skills, like people have been saying, I think when/if he meets killerbee and depending on what itachi gave him, he's gonna be able to fuse sage mode and kyuubi power together, and also negate ALL genjutsu cast at him, making it just a straight up brawl with anyone he faces.

Uchiha09 · 09-20-2009, 04:17 PM

all naruto needs is speed now and with his fuuton it'll help him train for it

Jumare · 09-20-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stubborn_narut0

lol FTG isnt offensive? an tech that kills 50 enemies in practically no time isn't offensive? wow, thats VERY subjective

oh! what i meant is that the tech is supplementary i.e. it maxes out his speed (to the point of teleportation) but all the attacks are actually with his kunai.

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Originally Posted by stubborn_narut0

edit: if he learns suton then they would be more equal than now

currently sasuke is stronger
sasuke's thunder weak against naruto's wind
naruto' wind weak against sasuke's fire

if naruto learns suiton
both of his elements willl completely counter sasuke's giving him advantage
(cuz thunder is strong against earth which naruto doesn't have)

fire is the only element that will keep them at par

Uchiha09 · 09-20-2009, 04:59 PM

also naruto isn't really experienced in using his elements. all sasuke uses is his raiton and katon. he doesn't go into a fight without it

stubborn_d0nkey · 09-20-2009, 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=Jumare;1754574]oh! what i meant is that the tech is supplementary i.e. it maxes out his speed (to the point of teleportation) but all the attacks are actually with his kunai.
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lol!

its not that it maxes out his speed to point of teleportation it is teleportation (RL use of the word) youre probably confused with the FTG and naruto teleportation. naruto teleportation is just fast movement (shunshin no jutsu - i think that is what it is called, body flicker) and FTG is a true teleportation jutsu

how do you know he kills with the kunai, he could give em smack in the face, it doesnt matter

Uchiha09 · 09-20-2009, 05:28 PM

if madara's space/time jutsu is more advanced than minato's then would shino's insect globe stick to minato even if he teleported to one of his kunais a mile away?

killerrabbit9 · 09-20-2009, 05:38 PM

There was a Kishi interview where he mentioned that Minato had 4 special or ultimate techniques so I think like father, like son so here are Naruto's four ultimate techniques, one of which he has already.

1.Senjutsu Futon: Rasenshiruken – Guess.
2.Whispering Wind God – Naruto's clones and/or allies mark every friend, ally and neutral party and in an instant Naruto can teleport all of them and himself (or not himself). This is useful because he can get everyone out of the way so he can use his more destructive techniques without having to worry about them.
3.Living Demon Consuming Seal – Allows Naruto to use a soul inside the demon to give a recently deceased person life. The user must also give his soul but in my scenario Naruto sneakingly gives up the Kyubi's soul.
4.Summoning: Kyubi no Yoko – Not just any summoning, the Fox is summoned as his complete self, even Madara never saw this form. In this form the Fox is so large Gamabunta can sit between his eyes. Naruto tricks the Kyubi into making a promise to help him one more time, see http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kyuubi for why this should work. Or maybe the Kyubi made a promise with one of Naruto's ancestors.

Jumare · 09-20-2009, 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=stubborn_narut0;1754580]

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Originally Posted by Jumare

oh! what i meant is that the tech is supplementary i.e. it maxes out his speed (to the point of teleportation) but all the attacks are actually with his kunai.
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lol!

its not that it maxes out his speed to point of teleportation it is teleportation (RL use of the word) youre probably confused with the FTG and naruto teleportation. naruto teleportation is just fast movement (shunshin no jutsu - i think that is what it is called, body flicker) and FTG is a true teleportation jutsu

how do you know he kills with the kunai, he could give em smack in the face, it doesnt matter

LMAO "a smack in the face".... classic!

ask me anything · 09-20-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Uchiha09

i think this covers the "rites" but he could've planted it far far away but still doesn't explain how he GETS BACK since getting back rites should be close enough for hinata to detect
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...4/page015.html

deidara and sasori, what did they have that complimented each other. if they both went for an all out fight together they would get in each other's way.

i don't even think minato and madara fought 1v1. i think it was madara in a distance controlling kyuubi full out to go against minato

Do rites even give off chakra to detect? I think there more like scrolls, where you have to use chakra to activate them, but don't have any themselves. Or they could be like pains chakra rods, just a means to channel chakra. Kishi really hasn't explained it in detail yet.

Deidara and Sasori make a great team. Deidara attacks from the sky, while sasori comes from the ground. Deidara's bombs make good distractions for Sasori's attack. Deidara could hid bombs inside Sasori's puppets for a kamikaze attack. 100 puppets + 1000's of bombs makes a great combo. If they could both get along they would have been great.

Minato saw madaras and even described him to naruto. Minato said "he saw through everything I did". That implies they must have fought. How else could madara "see through" minato's techniques.
http://www.narutocentral.com/manga.p...ruto&c=440&p=9

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Originally Posted by Uchiha09

all naruto needs is speed now and with his fuuton it'll help him train for it

Yeah, naruto needs more speed and strength. It would be easy too. All he has to do is Mass shadow clone training under Gai. Seriously, in 1 week he would be at lee's level. In a month he'd surpass Gai. Combine that with the extra strength from Sage Mode and he'd be at raikages level. With that strength and a few wind techs, he'd KO raikage. Too bad plot won't let it happen. It would unbalance the story too much.

Do the math. 1000 shadow clones * 1 week of training = 19 years of experience

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Originally Posted by Uchiha09

if madara's space/time jutsu is more advanced than minato's then would shino's insect globe stick to minato even if he teleported to one of his kunais a mile away?

I doubt the bugs would stick to minato. Even if they did if he teleported far enough away shino can't control them.

batonnoir · 09-21-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Special One

A bloodline isn't something you can just write off, it has to be inherited. The Sage's sons' were probably compatiable because their his sons and has his direct genetics. Pain said he believed in Naruto, just because he said that, doesn't mean he'd be giving him power. He revived all those he killed in Konoha, that's doing enough.

I don't think the two ninjas who "inherited" the Sage's powers were his sons...
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I doubt it, it is probably a skill requiring a bit of genius to pull off. Naruto has to understand the complex relationships with seals, body flickers, and reverse summonings to be able to pull off such a techniques. Trust me, it probably takes incrediable skill to learn. Kakashi probably doesn't know how to pull it off. I mean if secrets to jutsu were known, that would discredit the idea of concealing secrets.

Naruto and complex normally don't go together too well. I still think the "Yellow Flash" might be a bloodline technique similar to Haku's Crystal Mirror "teleporting".

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He doesn't have to. Really the only thing Naruto needs to concern himself with in regards to elemental ninjutsu is Amaterasu, and it doesn't matter, no kind of elemental jutsu can defeat Amaterasu from what we've seen.

Hopefully since naruto apparently learned reverse summoning, he also learned that sealing technique Pervy Sage used on Ameratsu back when they first ran into Itachi. If so he might even be able to recall Ameratsu for his own use.

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Due to the order of the events, it is likely that Naruto won't have a lot of time to improve or learn a lot of new techniques. If anything, he'll recieve his "Key" which releases all of the Kyuubi's chakra, gaining him access to even more powerful jutsu, a jutsu Minato wanted Naruto to complete. Whatever that is, will probably be the key to facing his opponents in the near future.

I agree about time being somewhat short, that's why I'm hoping a bloodline trait is involved in this. They have a tendency to kick in when the chips are down. And that key could definitely be "The Key" to something great...I just can't figure out how Naruto will learn about or even access the key.

09-20-2009, 02:48 AM	#18
Uchiha09 Hunter-Nin Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in imagination land, where fart when you burp and when you burp when you fart Age: 19 Posts: 1,166 Thanks: 379 Thanked 243 Times in 226 Posts	Re: Future powers for naruto? What do you Think? i think this covers the "rites" but he could've planted it far far away but still doesn't explain how he GETS BACK since getting back rites should be close enough for hinata to detect http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...4/page015.html deidara and sasori, what did they have that complimented each other. if they both went for an all out fight together they would get in each other's way. i don't even think minato and madara fought 1v1. i think it was madara in a distance controlling kyuubi full out to go against minato

09-20-2009, 09:23 AM	#20
Silverblade Missing-Nin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 1,681 Thanks: 355 Thanked 590 Times in 275 Posts	Re: Future powers for naruto? What do you Think? Kaze bunshin - Wind clone ~ When it's hit they explode with slicing air. Oodama Rasenshuriken - Yeah death bomb. Fuuton: Tornado jutsu ~ Three or Four of Naruto bunshins create a tornado somehow using their body. Fuuton: Air blast no jutsu ~ A gust of slicing winds is blown from Naruto's mouth. Element: Katon ~ Due to the ninetails chakra. He has to learn this and for combo attacks with most of the frogs. Naruto Katon jutsus won't suck. (I know Amasteru makes Katon look like shit, but come on we haven't seen a good katon jutsu from an Uchiha. Jiraiya had a good katon jutsu.) Katon bunshin - The shinobi attacks it with taijutsu they catch on fire automatically. Katon Rasengan - On impact the target is incinerated. Katon Rasenbomb - Well it's a napalm bomb. When Naruto throws it KABOOM! Does a wide radius of fire damage. Katon: Flamethrower tech - Can be used from his hands (YES FROM HIS HANDS!) A nice way to rip off the Kameha wave. Suiton: Yeah. Whirlpool country. Name has to with water. We get the point. Suiton: Mizu bunshin - Cheesy but hey i like Mizu bunshin. Suiton Rasengan - When the target is hit. They are trapped in a water prison and then the jutsu takes off gaining tremendous amount of water pressure to crush the internal organs of a target. Suiton: RasenUzumaki - Naruto's signature jutsu. It is known to cause a great flood when used. The target is hit with water that expands into a small river that has a whirlpool in the middle. The target is then sent grinding against the earth as water pressure increases to the point that every cell explodes instantly. Suiton: Great Wall - A huge wall of water is used to defeat against huge jutsus or to take out multiple opponents. Next is Doton: Kishi will piss us off by not seeing a doton Rasengan. Naruto will only have one doton jutsu Doton: Rising land (B-Rank Jutsu) - It's only to elevate the land. Naruto isn't human anyway so don't give me that bs about Sasuke, Kakashi or Yamato. Last but not least Kyuubi jutsu!! Ultimate Kyuubi Rasengan - Made from the fox's chakra Kyuubi bunshin - Takes the form of a normal shadow clone. When it's attacked a small fox with no tail attacks the target by smothering them in red chakra to burn them. Ninetail Canon - Naruto forms an ultimate rasengan of his chakra in one hand and the ultimate Kyuubi rasengan in another hand. He smashes them together creating bubbles of red and blue chakra. He puts his hands into a Kameha wave pose and the chakras gather to form a obsidian orb. He fires it, giving off a tremendous force that destroy a village and the beam takes form of the Kyuubi's head. Fuuin jutsu: Emo seal no jutsu - He will seal Sasuke's hatred. Elemental seal no jutsu - He can seal elements on the desired target No noobs in my fight no jutsu - He can stop fodder like TenTen from jumping into battle. Death god, Kyuubi re inforce i have a million of these. Last edited by Silverblade; 09-20-2009 at 09:25 AM.

09-20-2009, 11:45 AM	#21
Mack2128 Naruto Aficionado Join Date: May 2009 Location: DC Age: 24 Posts: 79 Thanks: 55 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Future powers for naruto? What do you Think? I honestly think naruto and his clones along with his rasengan is as good as its gonna get as far as ninjutsu. I personally think he's going to get a hell of alot stronger at his own taijutsu and just greatly increasing his own speed like his father did. I also believe due to his natural wind nature, that he may even one day be able to literally "fly" as apposed to teleporting all over the space, just seems more suitable for a guy like naruto. As far as other skills, like people have been saying, I think when/if he meets killerbee and depending on what itachi gave him, he's gonna be able to fuse sage mode and kyuubi power together, and also negate ALL genjutsu cast at him, making it just a straight up brawl with anyone he faces.

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09-20-2009, 05:38 PM	#27
killerrabbit9 Chuunin Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 420 Thanks: 258 Thanked 523 Times in 140 Posts	Re: Future powers for naruto? What do you Think? There was a Kishi interview where he mentioned that Minato had 4 special or ultimate techniques so I think like father, like son so here are Naruto's four ultimate techniques, one of which he has already. 1.Senjutsu Futon: Rasenshiruken – Guess. 2.Whispering Wind God – Naruto's clones and/or allies mark every friend, ally and neutral party and in an instant Naruto can teleport all of them and himself (or not himself). This is useful because he can get everyone out of the way so he can use his more destructive techniques without having to worry about them. 3.Living Demon Consuming Seal – Allows Naruto to use a soul inside the demon to give a recently deceased person life. The user must also give his soul but in my scenario Naruto sneakingly gives up the Kyubi's soul. 4.Summoning: Kyubi no Yoko – Not just any summoning, the Fox is summoned as his complete self, even Madara never saw this form. In this form the Fox is so large Gamabunta can sit between his eyes. Naruto tricks the Kyubi into making a promise to help him one more time, see http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kyuubi for why this should work. Or maybe the Kyubi made a promise with one of Naruto's ancestors.

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