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Old 10-05-2009, 06:45 PM   #91
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Re: 467 Prediction/Spoiler Discussion

What makes me laugh is how many people actually fell for this one. Its so obviously fake. The timing on it is wrong since usually we dont hear about anything till tomorrow. The spoilers themselves show that whoever wrote it was obviously unfamiliar with each character's personality and therefore wrote it as they would want to with the characters saying whatever the author wanted them to say despite it being out of character. Even the choicing of writing in general is not the same as kishi's style therefore its easy to assume this is the work of a fanboy. Then considering the writing style and choices of grammar, it also indicates that whoever wrote this spoiler is actually much younger than kishi. Therefore all I can say is, bravo to the little kid who managed to fool so many others. As P.T. Barnum said it best, "Theres a sucker born ever day."

As for the real spoilers, I eagerly look forward to reading about them on wednesday since usually by then we have true spoilers unless there is another holiday.

Edit: Looking back on this now, I think I have a good idea who wrote that fake spoiler.

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Old 10-05-2009, 06:56 PM   #92
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What makes me laugh is how many people actually fell for this one. Its so obviously fake. The timing on it is wrong since usually we dont hear about anything till tomorrow.
Actually SJ came out during the this past weekend because of a special event. The early spoilers were already being talked about at 2ch before they even came out this morning.
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Actually SJ came out during the this past weekend because of a special event. The early spoilers were already being talked about at 2ch before they even came out this morning.
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Staying on topic, the early spoilers were a given this week, but that doesn't make them any more credible, they are so retarded...

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the early spoilers were a given this week, but that doesn't make them any more credible, they are so retarded...
This is Kishi we're talking about, nothing he writes registers on my wtf meter anymore.

Besides, fake spoilers get repudiated quickly. I would be surprised if this wasn't the real thing.
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This is Kishi we're talking about, nothing he writes registers on my wtf meter anymore.
I want your wtf meter. My wtf meter beeps at any incongruence, and with these spoilers it's beeping like crazy.

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In 465 spoiler's week, we had an whole day with a fake spoiler. I sincerely hope this is the case again, I don't want Madara to be a Aizen wannabe...
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Ten tail? WTF is that.

Now clearly Madara is Sephiroth
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Re: 467 Prediction/Spoiler Discussion

It is obviously fake though, Madara asked where are you hiding Naruto. Yet he already knows that he at least hangs out at Konoha; plus he encountered Naruto just chapters ago in some hut out in the land of Iron. Some of the lines don't fit grammatically with the story's plot among other things that are completely out of place.
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I think it most likely is the real thing, but since Nja usually skips a lot of the dialog and his spoilers are spotty it has people confused and doubting it.

As for the Madara's request to turn in the remaining Jinchuriki it makes a bit of sense ( even though the wording on the current spoilers sound strange, the full scrip will set it straight if this is indeed it ), he has an argument, though twisted, his available fire power > the 5 shinobi nations available fire power atm.
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I think it most likely is the real thing, but since Nja usually skips a lot of the dialog and his spoilers are spotty it has people confused and doubting it.

As for the Madara's request to turn in the remaining Jinchuriki it makes a bit of sense ( even though the wording on the current spoilers sound strange, the full scrip will set it straight if this is indeed it ), he has an argument, though twisted, his available fire power > the 5 shinobi nations available fire power atm.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me though... why would he say "hand over the Eight-Tails AND Nine-Tails," if he can fucking teleport to Naruto? It doesn't make any sense to me. Furthermore, with "Akatsuki" nearly destroyed, how can Madara take on the rest of the world? If his body is fucked, how can he take on Naruto and the Five Kages single-handedly??
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why would he say "hand over the Eight-Tails AND Nine-Tails," if he can fucking teleport to Naruto?
No one knows where Kb is at the moment, Zetsu wasn't shown to be tracking him either. He sent Kisame looking but we haven't seen anything on that front yet.

As for Naruto, he has plot shield. Sure, he could port back to where he is but if he captured him that would be new and exciting and since this is Naruto Kishi doesn't have the balls to make that happen. Also Naruto is needed as one of the last jink's if this war does go down. After all Madara has 7 Bijuu and GM at his disposal, that alone tramples the majority of the ninja world.

As for the threat, well its just the classic " One last chance to hand over the goods peacefully " villain threat.

If the spoilers are real which i believe they are it won't surprise me. A lot of hints towards RS legacy have been appearing lately why not a Juubi locked inside a pokeball the moon ?
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Also there are a lot of things he has to think of, like what happens if he links Sasuke to the Hell of God statues? Sasuke has shown to be radical. Madara is planning on probably having Sasuke control the Bijuu as he'd be wired to the statue that holds their chakras captive, as Nagato was wired; planning on creating a jutsu that destroys a shinobi nation.

It would be pointless if Sasuke doesn't cooperate. Madara throwing a 4th shinobi war wouldn't be a just one at all; at least not at this moment. It takes time and understanding for Sasuke to be able to understand the Bijuu; Madara throwing a war would through Akatuski under the brink...
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He said linking Sasuke to GM was something he did not plan until much later due to questions about his loyalty.

However, at this time what option does Sasuke have but to play ball with Madara ?

This orchestrated mishap at the Kage summit will most likely lead to Madara making fun of Sasuke and how weak he is " Hahaha, Bitch you suck " style prompting him to accepting Itachi's eyes. He already knows the effects of using MS to the extent he pushed during his fight at the summit so i don't see any other outcome.

I understand the sentiments here, I found the whole 10 tails thing sketchy, but again this is Kishi. We have been trolled many times before I'm just used to it by now.
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468, the bastard son of Bahamut Fury (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8VwaEv3z1M) and the Moon Rabbit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rabbit). Yes, my Madara goes completely nuts about his gloating

468: The Shadow of Eternity

(Madara Scene)
Madara: Uchiha Madara, a name that has fallen in disgrace and passed into the realm of myth, almost forgotten by the cold mistress that is time. Since that cursed day on the now called Valley of the End, I kept myself preying on the living’s spiritual energy and hid myself in the shadows, waiting for the right time to get my revenge upon Konoha…
Kakashi: (thinking) Preying on the living’s… spiritual energy?
Madara: Many years ago, I thought “To destroy an Hidden Village, what’s better than another Hidden Village?” so that’s what I did. To avoid suspicions about me, I placed a genjutsu on the Yondaime Mizukage to do my biding.
Ao: So it was you! I should have known!
Madara: And it was you who discovered my dirty little secret, ten years ago. You should feel honored to perceive my technique… where was I, ah, with the graduation exam I installed, I was turning Kirigakure into a full-fledged army to overthrow Konoha. It was working at first, but unfortunately people started to rebel against my guinea pig, so I left Kirigakure before they found me. Also, there were rumors that, in a distant land, something was ravaging the villages.
Naruto: You don’t mean...
Madara: Yes, the Kyuubi. It was almost eighty years without it in my control, I couldn’t resist. I waited a couple of years to Kirigakure’s situation to cool off, and attacked Konoha with the Kyuubi…
Naruto: You bastard…
Madara: It’s not my fault that your father promptly sacrificed himself to seal the Kyuubi within you. Your father is the “bastard” in all this, not me!
Naruto: YOU!!! (starts to release Kyuubi’s chakra)
Mizukage: (thinking) He’s a Jinchuuriki?!
Madara: Oh, don’t make such a spectacle, Naruto! In the failure of my attack, I found some of my revenge being successful: the Uchiha clan, that turned their backs on me so many years ago, was being blamed for the attack. I knew that, sooner or later, they would rebel against the imposed authority, so I played the waiting game. And yes, it was me who aided Uchiha Itachi in the Uchiha clan’s genocide, by your commands, Danzou. (everone is shocked; Danzou is silent) But, while I was waiting, I discovered quite the happy bunch, a newly formed organization called “Akatsuki”.
Raikage: So, you’re not the founder of Akatsuki?
Madara: I’m afraid that honor is Nagato’s own merit. First I was spying on them, to see what they were all about. Then I discovered their goal: to build the ultimate weapon. But I only made my move to enter Akatsuki an year ago…
Tsuchikage: The ultimate weapon?
Madara: A weapon so powerful that it would erase a nation from the land in a blink of an eye!
Raikage: So you’re trying to destroy the world?!
Madara: Not so hasty, my musclehead friend! That weapon could only be formed from the gathering of an exorbitant mass of chakra, and the only way possible to gather so much chakra was to capture all the Bijuu and seal them into a chakra collector, the Gedou Mazou.
Gaara: So that’s why you captured me.
Raikage: And my brother!
Naruto: Grrrr…. (stares with anger at Madara)
Madara: Well, you’re brother has escaped us, but we’re still after your brother, Raikage. As we speak, Hoshigake Kisame is after him.
Raikage: You son of a b*tch!
Madara: Next will be the Hachibi, then you, Naruto… it will be glorious! Now, what nation I’ll destroy first? Konohagakure, for what they have done to me? Kirigakure, for abandoning my teachings? Iwakagure, for supporting the Akatsuki even knowing their methods? Kumogakure for not wanting peace, even if other nations do? Sunagakure for not standing in their own two feet, depending on everyone? Or the Land of Iron, for being so puny?
Mifune: …
Madara: Hmph… you wretched fools, you’re not worthy of my wrath! I will not point at you my weapon, but I’ll point it to a place almost four hundred thousand kilometers from here.
Tsuchikage: Four hundred thousand kilometers from here? But that’s impossible! No place is that far!
Madara: Perhaps is easier to show… (darkness surrounds everyone; the Gedou Mazou is shown in a field at night, with a full moon illuminating it)
Shii: It’s a genjutsu.
Madara: This is the Gedou Mazou, your future home, Uzumaki Naruto…
Naruto: SHUT UP!!!
Madara: How rude… when the Bijuu have been gathered, I’ll control it with the Tsukuyomi, and this will happen… (the Gedou Mazou lifts its face to the sky and opens its mouth wide)
Naruto: What the hell is it doing? (Something similar to a Bijuu’s Menacing Ball comes out of his mouth, shooting to the sky; the moon explodes, shocking everyone)
Madara: The moon, the moon was the right answer! (Lunar debris start to fall into the earth, looking like a rain of fire; strings come out of Gedou Mazou’s fingers, forming a net that is cast to the sky) You see, the moon was made by the Rikudou Sennin himself, but it wasn’t just for the looks. It conceals the product of his epiphany, Tsuki no Usagi* (Gedou Mazo, with its strings, puts on the floor a giant pot shaped like an hare) The key to the Rikudou Sennin’s body, its life force and its immortality! And to know the skies will cry fire and villages will be wiped off the map, it feels my heat with glee! Oh, eternal glory, eternal youth, eternal life, I’ll be the Eikyuukage**, immortal and invincible! Tremble, mortals!
Raikage: This guy is sick!
Kakashi: You’re a looney…
Naruto: You think we’ll let you do that?! (the genjutsu disappears)
Madara: The wheels of destiny are already in motion, there’s nothing you can do to stop it! (starts to disappear) Farewell, mortals, until the day of fate… tootles! (vanishes)

* Rabbit of the Moon: an ancient Buddhist story tells us that three animals (a fox, a monkey and a rabbit) found an old man begging for food. While the monkey gathered food from the trees and the fox pilfered a pot of milk, the rabbit couldn’t gather anything for the man to eat, so the rabbit offered itself and jumped to the bonfire the man had made. Because of the altruist gesture of the Rabbit, the old man (revealing himself to be Śakra, ruler of the heavens) drew a rabbit in the moon, preparing the Elixir of Immortality.
** Eternity’s Shadow

(Kirabi Scene)
(Walking in the forest)
Kirabi: Oh yeah, oh yo, Kirabi da master is goin’ to Konoha to master some Uchiha butt, oh yeah, oh yo!!!
Hachibi: (in Kirabi’s mind) You still suck at rapping.
Kirabi: Oh, chill up, Bully, don’t get so cranky!
Hachibi: Why do I even bother… so, you still think that Sharingan guy is in Konoha?
Kirabi: Oh yeah!
Hachibi: But he’s an Akatsuki, don’t you think he’s somewhere else than Konoha?
Kirabi: Geez, way to ruin the mood, Bull! Can’t I do some sightseeing? Besides, the dudes in Konoha must know about that Sharingan dude.
Hachibi: If you say so…

Next Chapter: Reception
good except for the fact that the kyuubi's chakra is completely sealed thanks to minato
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1/2 of the Kyuubi's chakra is sealed, the other half is iniside of Naruto.
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the thing that makes me think the current spoiler is fake is the part where madara asks where the 8 tails and 9 tails are. He was just talking to naruto, so he knows exactly where the nine tails is.
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