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Old 10-19-2009, 06:39 PM   #136
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@silverblade how he would own kirabi let's see.. he can suppress chakra of bijju with his seal. that he gave kakashi... he can use hermit mode he can use hell swamp he can use frog genjutsu which btw would own him... he can use plenty of things...

Orochimaru healthy 100% like against sarutobi would the fuck outta him he can use zombie hashirama to suppress kirabi fully..= owned...

he can for sure beat tsunade...

at the newb who said madara commented that kirabi is a good shinobi... he gave an even higher praise to jiraiya saying
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/407/15/

@tso it took a few panels for him get into sage mode if you truly think in a few panels he can't hold it down you're more hilarious then most newbs. stop watching the anime cause they drag his sage mode the fuk out...

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Old 10-19-2009, 06:44 PM   #137
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@tso it took a few panels for him get into sage mode if you truly think in a few panels he can't hold it down you're more hilarious then most newbs. stop watching the anime cause they drag his sage mode the fuk out...
It took the whole chapter.lol

edit: Summoning the two toads anyway.
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:53 PM   #138
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^ even after he got ma and pa on his shoulders pa asked told him he should be able to use sage chakra with out them. Then J-man said he was in no way close to their abilitys. That in it's self shows how good Naruto must be.
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:59 PM   #139
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It took the whole chapter.lol

edit: Summoning the two toads anyway.
if you think thats enough for any person to deal away with jiraiya your delusional NO OFFENSE.

it just wouldn't happen it can't actually.
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Naah...Cmon' I hate this "Konoha pwns ALL" kinda stuff...

Try to understand what "Jinchuuriki as protector of a village" is...a strong one...

Jiraiya and Orochimaru (Healthy) was cornered and almost got killed by the brainless 4 tailed Naruto...

A brother of a Raikage + Jinchuuriki...even Praised by Madara...

I know, it's hard to think that someone who just show up, is stronger than characters that we know for so long...it's unfair, but it's the shinobi world...bare with it...

Just like what Kakashi said to Naruto in the beggining of the series...s
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if you think thats enough for any person to deal away with jiraiya your delusional NO OFFENSE.

it just wouldn't happen it can't actually.
I'm just saying Sage Mode isn't practical for Jiraiya to rely on unless he is given sufficient time. If he's fighting someone who potentially fast liker Killer Bee (definitely faster when the tailed when he has his tailed states on) he runs the risk of being intercepted while he tries to go into Sage Mode.
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ooohhh boy....this will not end well.
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All Naruto would have to do to destroy both Jiraiya and Kirabi is "no justu guko summon" and it ends well
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I love it how people try to make things sound as easy as possible "oh all said person has to do is said thing and it's over" when it's not that damn simple.
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I love it how people try to make things sound as easy as possible "oh all said person has to do is said thing and it's over" when it's not that damn simple.
I agree, nothing is ever that cut and dry, and or convenient, unless the shinobi is steller and the opponent is crab grass in comparison...
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Jiraiya is and will always be the man.
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also @the special one, bee didnt need to transform, but if he didnt he wouldnt have put suigetsu outta the battle, suigetsu woulda been quite persistent and with sasuke and suigetsi double teaming him it might give sasuke an opening whilst suigetsu gets raitoned.

also sharingan kept up with every movement of bee apart from 2.
the first is when he did that weird spin, that wasnt speed, that was skill
second when sasuke turned his back on bee and thought he was down after genjutsu...

but he was able to dodge bee in tailed stage, so amaterasu woulda hit him without transforming he was not as fast as raikage....agaisnt rai sasuke couldnt follow rais movements and he had to put up a susanoo-amaterasu shield for defence
It wouldn't even had come to that if Killer Bee followed up the attack. Sasuke was wasted at that moment. Against Suigetsu Hydration technique, it could have been possible for Killer Bee to bull doze right through after all, the 1st tailed Naruto ran straight through a fire ball jutsu.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/231/10/

I'm sure with Killer Bee's chakra aura he could do the same when going through water. Water is stronger than fire in the elemental tree. But in comparison to overall damage on independent targets, I'm not sure, then again, it was a c rank fire jutsu, maybe that was why it was so easily bypassed. Though, Killer Bee had multiple tails released, so maybe it was capable, after all, the Hachibi doesn't have chakra aura, it takes on flesh and muscle tissue once it finally releases. Anyway, Sasuke was still recovering and had not awakened Amaterasu until much later in the next chapter. He could have ended it like the Hachibi stated. I'm assuming using just the tailed states, not summoning the Bijuu himself.

I agree, I could be wrong in regards to Killer Bee evading Amaterasu. Though, Sasuke was still out of commission for a while.
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Jiraiya's the man with a lot of jutsu's, Sage Mode, intelligence, experience etc. What people should stop doing is pitting good characters, vs. good. Theres no way that J-Man would ever fight Killerbee in anything beyond a sparring session. He's the Raikages brother, and the Sannin were every bit as important to Konoha as the Hokage, INCLUDING Sarutobi. Some fights would never happen, and if so they should be discussed in the VS. Thread. Orochimaru was evil so theres a possibility they could've fought, but I'm sorry to piss off some by saying this... Oro controlled at least 2 former Hokages, Manda, Hydra, other snakes, multiple jutsus, the Sword of Tsunagi, and could regenerate at will. Oro IS far from a bum, he just spent too much energy trying to gain the perfect body from an Uchiha. If he had taken over Itachi, or Sasuke, he would be just as big a threat as the Akatsuki. Don't sleep on Sannins, even Tsunade said she can't die in battle, she uses a Forbidden Jutsu for that.
Lastly somebody said that Killerbee hit Sasuke with some horns or something like that, which is wrong... Sasuke got clotheslined after he hit Bee with Tsukiyomi, Bee activated his shroud of chakra which is like Narutos, like acid and tore up Sasuke from the throat to the top of his chest, most of the flesh was gone.

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Old 10-19-2009, 09:48 PM   #149
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to the n**b that said jiraiya couldn't kill naruto at 4 tails YOU'RE COMPLETE FAIL, we've seen jiraiya go all out he could have killed 4tk if he wanted to but naruto's his student he wanted to do it without hurting him. Oro was fairing well till his body got fucked up..

did i mention jiraiya has a seal that can suppress bijju chakra..
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to the n**b that said jiraiya couldn't kill naruto at 4 tails YOU'RE COMPLETE FAIL, we've seen jiraiya go all out he could have killed 4tk if he wanted to but naruto's his student he wanted to do it without hurting him. Oro was fairing well till his body got fucked up..

did i mention jiraiya has a seal that can suppress bijju chakra..
Totally true. I wish when naruto actually trains how to control the fox he has a flashback and actually shows the entire fight. That would be awesome. I think jiraiya's seal has to be placed on naruto's forehead to work. That's kind of hard to do when he's trying to kill you. Especially with his enhanced strength, reflexes, chakra, etc. That's probable why he told kakashi to use the seal before the 3rd tail appears, otherwise kakashi would have been murdered.

BTW, Jiraiya didn't use sage mode when he fought naruto. Maybe he didn't have time to summon ma and pa toad. It would be the same situation if he fought Killer bee, which was what TSO was trying to say. Or maybe he underestimated naruto's strength. Either way Jiraiya fought naruto with 4-tails, went easy on him, and still lived. If he was serious against KB and actually went into sage mode it's very likely he could win.

Edit: I doubt fighting KB would be harder than Pain. KB Doesn't have enhanced vision, massive summons, or a whole list of powerful techs. Sure he has lots of chakra, but Sage Mode would make that even. Plus let KB take a Giant Rasengan point blank and see what happens.
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