Spiegel

I can't speak for the European but I would like to know where you get your information but you have a misconception of the Puerto Ricans. I can say this because I am one and have lived amongst Puerto Rican's all my life. We accept gays in our society but that is it.The only instance where to men are kissing (only on the cheek may I add) is if you've known them for a long time and have a family type trust or if your ralated. Never have I seen two Puerto Rican men kiss on the lips as a something normally accepted in our society. Get your facts straight.

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blake

naruto isnt gay. he hasnt had a normal childhood or time to develop relationships, much like sasuke. I dont think they really care about the oposite sex that much, well naruto does/did like sakura but he is preoccupied with his own thing so he has no time for her. That doesnt mean he is gay. If i was on a journey to kill my brother who killed my family, the last thing i would be worried about is women. Saem for naruto, if I have to train and become stronger to save my best friend and protect myself from being killed by aka, girls dont mean that much.

Most of the male characters, besides jiraiya and asuma have showed very little interest towards women. does that mean, all ninja like kakashi and gai are gay? ehh.. maybe Gai.

Sure naruto probably loves sasuke, but i dont there is anything sexual about it. Guys on these forums who have really close male best friends might be able to relate. If they got into trouble and you could help them, you probably would do it. even if it is time consuming.

Also I am seeing the fact that naruto didnt really do anything when hinata confessed to him, well he is a teenage guy and even know some guys may talk big game when it actually comes down to it they'll probably waiver.

sasorry

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7313/cotto.jpg

Miguel Cotto, a Puerto Rican boxer kissing his pops. It's also common among European men, ask them. It's familial, definitely not a misconception. That's ignorance you are showing right there, it's not just America, get a concept outside of it.

Nerox

yeahj dude i'm german, and i don't kiss my dad on the lips....

but i don't have a problem with any homosexuals, i have many lesbian/gay friends, so where's your problem...

and btw, i am pretty sure, that every guy i know does not kiss their fathers on the lips...so, obviously, you should not jump to assumptions you know nothing about, thnx

regards

sasorry

Im not jumping on conclusions, what im saying is that it's not quite uncommon for these things to happen. Yeah maybe not germans but Italians, and they do tell me it's common. Take note I am not saying all, just saying you should not be surprised when you see men kiss each other. And what do I know nothing about, I already posted proof of it. Some families are just like that.

Spiegel

How is it ignorance when I live among them 24/7. I've seen mothers kiss their sons on the lips, its almost uncommon to see a father and a son do so. Please don't lecture me about my own culture and based on the information from the oh so reliable interwebz.

Also, if sons were to kiss the fathers it wouldn't be like. I don't know what kinda relation Cotto has with his family but neither do I care or care to find out about it. That's his issue. That right there is not common in the Puerto Rican culture, I can assure you.

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sasorry

As i've said just don't be surprised when you see this kinds of act and assume it's gay just like what the TS did in his theory when he already assumed naruto to be gay just by that panel. Right it's not about the person in the pic posted to heck with that I'm just proving my point.

So you think naruto is gay just because he accidentally kissed sasuke?

Miburo

What does any of this have to do with Tzu Men's incredibly valid and well supported theory?

Spiegel

The whole point of this thread is that we don't think Naruto is gay, we think that there is a potential of him being gay given the evidence that were pointed out throughout the manga. TS just pointed out to the exact pages where this occurances took place and theorized it as Naruto potentially being gay. Naruto can also potentially be not gay unless Kishi has anything to say about it. The point is that TS or anybody else approving of this theory aren't wrong and neither is anyone who is agains't it because in the end its all just theory, a well articulated theory at that. The reason why your argment fails (as thus you have claimed as well) is that you didn't read the thread entirely and failed in the comprehension of the main focus of this thread.

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sasorry

Sir I'm stepping it up to a new level, comparing NaruSasu kiss to sweaty boxers that kiss their fathers.

Miburo

Yeah, well, try reading the thread. Then you'd see how that comparison is incredibly stupid. Well, maybe. Actually...I doubt it. You don't seem all that bright.

sasorry

Isn't the purpose of this thread to give proof that naruto is gay? And I for one am just try to detract it. That's the purpose of debates isn't it? Just giving my 2 cents. Didn't have to read it, I for one am annoyed with narutos action for chasing after sasuke for all these years, he's putting alot of peoples lives just for saving this kid, that's selfish in many ways. I'll repeat myself gay or not just give me a good manga to read.

sasorry

All I see are panels made by you guys to prove naruto is gay, am I missing something?

Edit: Conspiracy theorists for the win!

Spiegel

Well that's Naruto's choice, he chose to chase after the only peer to ever truely acknowledge him and his power from the get go. He feels a sense of duty to bring him back be he feels that Sasuke is not evil but simply misguided. Because of that he's developed feelings that surpasses friendship. What would you call that if not gay? Naruto simply shows those tendencies and we are just pointing them out. In the end it might be he is just a regurlar straight guy but thats not the point. Gay or not this series makes for a good read even though the story can get stretched with the things Kishi does just for the sake of plot but that is what happens in a long running series. You have your ups and downs but in the end Naruto is a pretty decent series. Better than Bleach at least.

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Tankynator

I wonder how the first post, that mainly consists of misinterpretation, exageration and ignorance, can actually convince some people.
Everybody who actually read that post should've realised that the reasons for Naruto's homosexuality are way to far-fetched and the possibility of it being true is five percent at best.

Really, I'm at a loss, where I should start to dissect this "theory" since I disagree with almost every point he makes.