Danzou with Izanagi???

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 12-30-2009, 04:39 PM

OK, Im bored so I thought Id make a new thread. This thread is going to try and show

1. The conection between danzou, madara, tobi and shisui.

And 2. the special ability of danzous that is actually the EMS jutsu Izanagi.

To start lets talk about the corelation between danzou, tobi, madara and shisui. For one, danzo and tobi had to of been working together in the genocide of the uchiha. Danzou wanted the uchiha gone as well as SG eyes obviously and madara had a grudge against the uchiha so both cooperation together for a common goal is to plausible at this point IMO. And the fact that madara just happened to be around for itachi to notice him is too coincidental IMO and it was apart of the plan.

So, if so then what was the deal between tobi and danzou? it was shisui. danzou wanted shisuis mind control power, his arm to sustain shisuis power and perhaps shisui had another special power???....

Obviously, IMO, madara wanted shisuis body! Here u can see madara right arm is fakehttp://mangastream.com/read/naruto/475-10/12 and danzou just happens to have so one elses so do the mathhttp://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...9/page015.html

That explains shisui, but how is it danzou has what definatly seems to be the specualted Izanagi (power of death and creation) which is supposed to EMS's unique jutsu. Daznou for sure is dying and recreating himself at will.

I mean Tobi/madara who himself saif is incompelte because of the fight with harishima. WHat if hes refering to his lack of both EMS eyes? If Izanagi is real and works just like danzous then to save his onw ass Madara invoked Izanagi which recreated him, but sacrificed his eye just like danzous are doing right now.

It seems however that danzou realised how to increase Izanagis ability by incorperation multiple SGs all linked so he could be reborn as many times as he has SGs instead of only twice. And it was Tobi himself that said he likes to keep good SGs aroundhttp://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...7/page009.html
So, if tobis keeping multiple SGs around too then he must realise what danzou has as well IMO. But still, how is it shisui came to posses an EMS eye and such special chakra? Thats another thread with another theory I suppose lol.

What do yall think?

waleed86 · 12-30-2009, 04:59 PM

Hmm its was nice to read. it kinda make sense.

stubborn_d0nkey · 12-30-2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash

OK, Im bored so I thought Id make a new thread. This thread is going to try and show

1. The conection between danzou, madara, tobi and shisui.

And 2. the special ability of danzous that is actually the EMS jutsu Izanagi.

To start lets talk about the corelation between danzou, tobi, madara and shisui. For one, danzo and tobi had to of been working together in the genocide of the uchiha. Danzou wanted the uchiha gone as well as SG eyes obviously and madara had a grudge against the uchiha so both cooperation together for a common goal is to plausible at this point IMO. And the fact that madara just happened to be around for itachi to notice him is too coincidental IMO and it was apart of the plan.

So, if so then what was the deal between tobi and danzou? it was shisui. danzou wanted shisuis mind control power, his arm to sustain shisuis power and perhaps shisui had another special power???....

Obviously, IMO, madara wanted shisuis body! Here u can see madara right arm is fakehttp://mangastream.com/read/naruto/475-10/12 and danzou just happens to have so one elses so do the mathhttp://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...9/page015.html

That explains shisui, but how is it danzou has what definatly seems to be the specualted Izanagi (power of death and creation) which is supposed to EMS's unique jutsu. Daznou for sure is dying and recreating himself at will.

I mean Tobi/madara who himself saif is incompelte because of the fight with harishima. WHat if hes refering to his lack of both EMS eyes? If Izanagi is real and works just like danzous then to save his onw ass Madara invoked Izanagi which recreated him, but sacrificed his eye just like danzous are doing right now.

It seems however that danzou realised how to increase Izanagis ability by incorperation multiple SGs all linked so he could be reborn as many times as he has SGs instead of only twice. And it was Tobi himself that said he likes to keep good SGs aroundhttp://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...7/page009.html
So, if tobis keeping multiple SGs around too then he must realise what danzou has as well IMO. But still, how is it shisui came to posses an EMS eye and such special chakra? Thats another thread with another theory I suppose lol.

What do yall think?

What do i think?

(1. why use tobi and madara? are you saying that they are not the same? i dont think you are saying that but it looks "weird"
2.What is the thing about itachi? you mentioned it but didnt explain, could you elaborate)

I really doubt several things about this post.

I really doubt that madara would accept an incomplete body (if he really needed one in the first place
I really doubt that Izanagi is supposed to be the EMS jutsu. Where did you get that from? If it is why would madara need nagato for the revival jutsu?
I really doubt an EMS jutsu can be used with a normal SG eye even if the user has EMS, i think that contradicts everything we have seen so far concerning different types of SG
I really doubt danzo would waste his eyes, because that would be what he is doing. It seems that he is mostly testing sasuke. We haven't seen that much offense from him yet. Why would he waste his limited supply? It doesn't seem danzoish to me
I really doubt that if izanagi recreates that madara would need a body if he used izanagi after the battle with the first

Darn! I feel like I am forgetting something.

Where is my penny? :P

Edit/P.S.: still a nice read

uchihamadara · 12-30-2009, 06:27 PM

To Be Honest that makes a little sense that could explain why The eyes are closing when He should be dead, but madara is a different case. I still have trouble figuring out what exactly did the first do to him to make him so powerless?

freedom07 · 12-30-2009, 07:16 PM

im gonna take a wild guess

that the 1st SEALED madaras powers somehow

the pic showing madara and kyubii vs 1st...the 1st had a scroll

the 1st is known for controlling bijuus and yamato has powers of sealing, he can seal the chakra of the 9 tails

its not much evidence but its the only thing i can come up with to explain madaras loss of power

btw why does izangi have to be a power of ems ...it could just be ms...and i doubt shisui had ms simply because itachi wouldnt say theres only 2 ms eyes left....if shisui had ms itachi would know.

although i like this theory a lot, it explains why madara lost an eye, i reckon danzo has activated shisuis ms somehow, but what i dont get is how is danzo using that power so easily

1. wheres his chakra coming from
2. all ms techs does recoil damage to the user, danzo hasnt flinched or seem tired at all

ask me anything · 12-30-2009, 08:49 PM

Good read. The only thing is, if shusui did have the power you said then how could itachi have beat him?
Also to unlock EMS 2 brothers need MS and 1 has to take the others eyes. So both danzo and shusui would have needed MS to begin with and danzo didn't have a Sharingan at all before the uchiha massacre and shusui didn't kill itachi to get his MS(he got owned). Danzo and shusui aren't brothers so it wouldn't have worked any way.

saiyaman · 12-30-2009, 11:10 PM

There's one thing which I think is absolutely true. Danzou's use of his eyes could surely explain how Madara survived against the First Hokage. Probably Madara has given up hope of regaining his eye and hence turned towards the power of the Juubi to make up for it.

It has to be like that. It's just too perfect if Madara could even manipulate Life/Death just because he had EMS. There's always a cost to using something so big. Nagato can be excused because he did have the Rinnegan. I can't see the Sharingan having such a great jutsu with no disadvantage to it.

This would certainly explain why Madara has only one eye and how he survived against the First. Good post.

Konnaha_yellow_flash · 12-30-2009, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ask me anything

Good read. The only thing is, if shusui did have the power you said then how could itachi have beat him?
Also to unlock EMS 2 brothers need MS and 1 has to take the others eyes. So both danzo and shusui would have needed MS to begin with and danzo didn't have a Sharingan at all before the uchiha massacre and shusui didn't kill itachi to get his MS(he got owned). Danzo and shusui aren't brothers so it wouldn't have worked any way.

Like I said, im not sure how danzou couldve got the EMS class jutsu.

ANd itachi might of had help against shisui because shisui was supposed to the top uchiha of the clan back then I think. Even above itachi.

durndle · 12-31-2009, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash

OK, Im bored so I thought Id make a new thread. This thread is going to try and show

1. The conection between danzou, madara, tobi and shisui.

And 2. the special ability of danzous that is actually the EMS jutsu Izanagi.

To start lets talk about the corelation between danzou, tobi, madara and shisui. For one, danzo and tobi had to of been working together in the genocide of the uchiha. Danzou wanted the uchiha gone as well as SG eyes obviously and madara had a grudge against the uchiha so both cooperation together for a common goal is to plausible at this point IMO. And the fact that madara just happened to be around for itachi to notice him is too coincidental IMO and it was apart of the plan.

So, if so then what was the deal between tobi and danzou? it was shisui. danzou wanted shisuis mind control power, his arm to sustain shisuis power and perhaps shisui had another special power???....

Obviously, IMO, madara wanted shisuis body! Here u can see madara right arm is fakehttp://mangastream.com/read/naruto/475-10/12 and danzou just happens to have so one elses so do the mathhttp://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...9/page015.html

That explains shisui, but how is it danzou has what definatly seems to be the specualted Izanagi (power of death and creation) which is supposed to EMS's unique jutsu. Daznou for sure is dying and recreating himself at will.

I mean Tobi/madara who himself saif is incompelte because of the fight with harishima. WHat if hes refering to his lack of both EMS eyes? If Izanagi is real and works just like danzous then to save his onw ass Madara invoked Izanagi which recreated him, but sacrificed his eye just like danzous are doing right now.

It seems however that danzou realised how to increase Izanagis ability by incorperation multiple SGs all linked so he could be reborn as many times as he has SGs instead of only twice. And it was Tobi himself that said he likes to keep good SGs aroundhttp://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...7/page009.html
So, if tobis keeping multiple SGs around too then he must realise what danzou has as well IMO. But still, how is it shisui came to posses an EMS eye and such special chakra? Thats another thread with another theory I suppose lol.

What do yall think?

Well, for someone to Microanalyze it the way you do, Of course it sounds good. Your're a Nerd Arent You? Got Ya.

pearlriver05 · 12-31-2009, 02:07 AM

okay wild guess here but doesn't zetsu eat bodies?! he could supply madara any body part. just a thought

Gakure · 12-31-2009, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stubborn_narut0

[LIST=1][*]I really doubt that Izanagi is supposed to be the EMS jutsu. Where did you get that from? If it is why would madara need nagato for the revival jutsu?

Have u considered he might have lost it in the fight with hashi and needed someone to do it for him. That's what we know Madara for.

kluang · 12-31-2009, 05:36 AM

Izanagi?

Izanami will make more sense.

And three gods is enough, we dont need izanami, izanagi or any japanese gods by sharingan. It will become too uber.

saiyaman · 12-31-2009, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gakure

Have u considered he might have lost it in the fight with hashi and needed someone to do it for him. That's what we know Madara for.

I suppose that was the very thing he expected from Nagato: Gedo Rinne Tensei.

freedom07 · 01-04-2010, 10:27 AM

just read over some chapters and noticed at the very beginning of the fight,

danzo used some handsigns and ran towards sasuke only to punch him

perhaps thats when he activated whatever the hell jutsu it is

kluang · 01-04-2010, 11:31 AM

maybe he summon Odin

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saiyaman Chuunin Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 643 Thanks: 830 Thanked 312 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Danzou with Izanagi??? There's one thing which I think is absolutely true. Danzou's use of his eyes could surely explain how Madara survived against the First Hokage. Probably Madara has given up hope of regaining his eye and hence turned towards the power of the Juubi to make up for it. It has to be like that. It's just too perfect if Madara could even manipulate Life/Death just because he had EMS. There's always a cost to using something so big. Nagato can be excused because he did have the Rinnegan. I can't see the Sharingan having such a great jutsu with no disadvantage to it. This would certainly explain why Madara has only one eye and how he survived against the First. Good post. __________________

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