ThePein

An example of slang: punanny, putang, dawg, bro, yo, yall, didja, and etc.

Krohnie84

I believe Madara said that Naruto inherited the Senju "Will of Fire". Not that he is a blood relative but his way of life is the same.

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freedom07

Naruto will of fire sasuke will of hatrid

very much like the 2 sons of rikkodou sennin

madara said the younger son had the body and spirit and also sought peace through love
whilst the elder sought peace through hatrid and power

...i know madara never actually said naruto is a decendant from senju
but senju and uchiha are like opposites dating back to rikkodou ...its like the brothers are rikkodous yin and yang ...if sasuke is the decendant from the elder...what would be the point if the main character isnt the other one
what would be the point of madara saying the comparisons of the 2 sons and then describe strikingly similar features to naruto and sasuke...kinda like history repeating..

itd be stupid if naruto didnt have connection to senju

liondemon

Naruto would have been defeated or killed by everyone he ever fought, if not for his stamina to keep him going and allow him to pull off the jutsus he does, and so much. If not for his stamina, Naruto wouldnt even be able to be a Sage. Same with Pain and his Rinnegan. They would be normal ninjas. No may about it.

But Itachi said Madara helped and even Sasuke suspected Itachi couldnt do it alone. Either Madara had Zetsu steal their chakra to make it easier, or Madara caught them in his genjutsu for Itachi to easily, quickly pull it off. I think that Itachi could have planned it out well and done it himself, without Madara, but not without at least a scratch to show for it.

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Myth

the point of the story would be defeated if naruto was a "senju" he's suppose to be a nobody rise up and beat the best of them through hard work... it makes no sense if he was part of the strongest clan.... takes away from the the hard worker point cause then he'd be just a late bloomer genius... part of a big ass well known clan..

him being just a random kid with great roots from his father who was also just a random guy who was extremely gifted if much better.. this way it shows that its possible for regular shinobi with no bloodline or blood traits of a powerful clan to become special and be able to compete and beat the top shinobi who are from a big well known clan..

liondemon

Point of the story wouldnt be defeated. Just cuz u have strong power or potential, doesnt mean u can or will achieve it. Naruto is where is is due to his hard work. Other Senju were likely incapable of doing everything that Naruto is capable of doing. Naruto still had to mature on his own to be as great as he was capable of being, like us all. Even a genius with less power than Naruto can still defeat him. With all ofNaruto's power, he still only wins due to his cleverness/ brains, similar to the underpowered Shikamaru and his brains.

Naruto being Senju makes the story better. Naruto was a nobody. We found out that his father was King of Konoha once. Wouldnt it be nice to find out that this once believed to be Mood Blood Naruto Nobody, is actually a Half Blood Prince with the greatest of all the royal bloods in the world in his veins, and he is actually "blood related" to his brother Sasuke and his Grandma Tsunade.

Being as though the 1st Sage, introducer of chakra, had the only genetic stamina to create a shinobi capable of withstanding a 9 tails fox sealed inside him and the stamina to allow Naruto to use as much chakra as he does, I think Naruto should logically be Senju in this illogical, at times, fairy tale. Generally, manga or anime "heroes" are born with better potential, genetically, than the average person, or they come accross something that makes them more special than the average person.

Minato would not have been that great without his Senju powers. He would have just been a genius like Orochu, but not the one man war ender that he was.

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IDK I want both Naruto and Minato to be their own man, it's good this way because it shows you don't have to be from a "great" clan to be great like them and even greater actually...

But hey only time will tell, I wouldn't be mad if they both ended up being Senju not at all. I would just rather them be them you know...

liondemon

I can understand that. Sarutobi was that man. The only "non Senju", non "chakra monster" to rule Konoha, and he had a long reign from a young age. If u look at all of the current Kages, they all have highly Unique or keke genkai abilities that allowed them to be Kages. Even Raikage has Buuji level chakra and "controlled" Killa B and Gaara had Shukaku.

I used to want Naruto to be that guy too, when I didnt really see how powerful his chakra was, especially when compared to others, but the more I learned about the Senju and Uchiha, and their connection, the more I wanted for Naruto to be Senju just because it's likely and because he deserves to know that he comes from a great clan, not just a great father, especially after the life he lived of having and knowing no family, or anything about himself or his family. That's just me, but i getu

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Sarutobi's chakra was pretty large for and old man the anbu's still shit their pants... I don't really know when he got the Kage title(not as a boy like the anime suggests the manga never shows this) but he was def very powerful then again the first and second trained him so its expected.

Xethorsiph

So um.....are we gonna get spoilers this week?

ryanzkie

hey guys, spoilers are out..
http://www.edgarluvitug.com/2010/01/...-spoilers.html

the scans are not so good but doesn't matter..

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ryanzkie

SPOILER #1
CREDITS: on3word

さら～っとね

ダンゾウの右腕の写輪眼が60秒に1個閉じることに気づく
カリン　サスケ
Karin and Sasuke figure out that there's a 60 second interval between when the eyes on Danzou's right arm closes.

ダンゾウ口寄せ。ペインが連れてたサイみたいな口寄せ動物。
Danzou summons. It looks like one of Pain's summons.

60秒に1回眼を閉じたとき、サスケ
ダンゾウを刺す。
Sasuke stabs Danzou after 60 seconds when an eye closes.

これは幻術か現実か。で終わり。
Was it a genjutsu, or was it real? It ends there.

読み漁ってくる。
Will read and come back with more.

SPOILER #1: FULL SPOILER TRANSLATION
CREDITS: on3word

Page 1

479:　イザナギ
479: Izanagi

サスケ:　。。。！！
Sasuke: ...!!

カリン:　サスケェ！！
Karin: Sasuke!!

カリン:　うろたえるな！今のウチにできる事はダンゾウの術を分祈
しきる事！
Karin: This is crazy! The only thing I can do now is figure out what Danzou's jutsu is!

最高にして禁断の幻術を破るには。。。！？
How will they defeat the greatest forbidden genjutsu...!?

Page 2

マダラ:（イザナギー）
Madara: Izanagi

マダラ:（ほんの僅かな時間だけ。。。術者のダメージや死を含めた不利なものを夢に描 きかえる 事ができー）
Madara: (With only just a brief period of time...anything used against the jutsu's user including damage and even death, is changed into but a vision of a dream.)

Page 3

ダンゾウ:　風遁 真空大玉
Danzou: Fuuton Shinkuudaigyoku [Wind Release: Great Vacuum Sphere]

マダラ:（そして術者の攻撃などで有利となるものは幻術にできる）
Madara: (Not only that, but it's a genjutsu capable of allowing the user to attack to the user's advantage.)

Page 4

マダラ:（幻と現実の狭間をコントロールできるー 己自身へかける究極幻術！！）
Madara: (It controls the eyelet of illusion and reality. It is the ultimate genjutsu that can be activated on the user!!)

マダラ:（。。。そして。。。イザナギを使用したその眼は光を失い）
Madara: (...also...using Izanagi means eliminating the light its eye.)

マダラ:（二度と開く事はない。。。）
Madara: (It will never open again...)

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Masashi Kishimoto - Love breeds sacrifice...which breeds hatred... Naruto 437 - Confession

freedom07

^ actually looks like they both got stabbed near the arm so it may not be fatal...

wtf isnt that one of pains summon creatures ??!??
also whats with this 60 seconds interval... shinra tensei much?

ryanzkie

yeah, it's near in the arm, honestly, i can't see it clearly..
nope it's not..danzou's summon seems like elephant from kerala..lol.. pain summon is rhino i think..

so Izanagi is the ultimate genjutsu, how did danzou ever learned that jutsu?

With only just a brief period of time...anything used against the jutsu's user including damage and even death, is changed into but a vision of a dream.

that explains how Madara cheated his death against the the First..maybe..

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Masashi Kishimoto - Love breeds sacrifice...which breeds hatred... Naruto 437 - Confession

The Special One

Though, Karin could always heal Sasuke. Who's going to heal Danzou? I'm sure as hell think they want his ass dead.

Yeah, I didn't like how that was thrown in there either (but oh well)...

And Izanagi is a genjutsu? After all that, it's just a genjutsu? Gosh, I should have stayed with the idea I had two weeks ago and expanded on that...

Though, at least we know that the eye sealing thing is apparent.

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